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Posted by Dick Ellingson (+1320) 21 days ago
Your favorite politician is a liar.

Your favorite politician would stab you in the back for a buck.

Your favorite politician lives by the same moral code as the one you despise.

Your favorite politician takes bribes from lobbyists.

Your favorite politician is in it for the money.

Your favorite politician has zero interest in your well-being.

Your favorite politician thinks you're a joke.
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Posted by bh (+243) 21 days ago
To requote what I've seen, picking your favorite politician is like picking your favorite STD.
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Posted by TiredofBS (+285) 21 days ago
I remember Amorette posting something like Whoo Hoo they raided Mara-Logo and Orange man had classified documents and all the usual talking heads here were saying things like impeach and jail. Even our wonderful current president said "How could anyone be so irresponsible." Well fast forward and low and behold we have a similar situation, albeit with astounding differences. Trump was a sitting "President" with the constitutional authority to declassify and remove said files from the White House and his were in a safe. Joe Biden, on the other hand, was a "Vice President" and had absolutely no legal authority to declassify or remove the files from the WH and he had them spread over half of DC. He seems to think they're only as sensitive as his Corvette because he had them stored in a locked garage. When they raided Mara-Lago there were news crews and some thirty or so agents. When they found Biden's documents it was hidden for two months, not a word released to the public. I'll bet that someone here will attempt to explain how our "Justice System" is fair and equal. This ought to prove interesting.
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Posted by Frank Burns (+448) 20 days ago
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TiredofBS wrote:
they raided Mara-Logo and Orange man had classified documents and all the usual talking heads here were saying things like impeach and jail.

You can't impeach someone who's not in office. And after TRUMP LOST THE ELECTION, rest assured he is NOT IN OFFICE.
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Posted by TiredofBS (+285) 20 days ago
What you say is true, but then I wasn't the one saying impeach. Besides, you're going to nitpick something as mundane as that when we're talking about mishandling classified materials?

[Edited by TiredofBS (1/14/2023 10:10:42 PM)]
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Posted by tom regan (+3006) 20 days ago
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TiredofBS wrote:
I remember Amorette posting something like Whoo Hoo they raided Mara-Logo and Orange man had classified documents and all the usual talking heads here were saying things like impeach and jail. Even our wonderful current president said "How could anyone be so irresponsible." Well fast forward and low and behold we have a similar situation, albeit with astounding differences. Trump was a sitting "President" with the constitutional authority to declassify and remove said files from the White House and his were in a safe. Joe Biden, on the other hand, was a "Vice President" and had absolutely no legal authority to declassify or remove the files from the WH and he had them spread over half of DC. He seems to think they're only as sensitive as his Corvette because he had them stored in a locked garage. When they raided Mara-Lago there were news crews and some thirty or so agents. When they found Biden's documents it was hidden for two months, not a word released to the public. I'll bet that someone here will attempt to explain how our "Justice System" is fair and equal. This ought to prove interesting.


Nice revisionist history. Let us compare the two situations. Trump had the authority to declassify the over 300 classified documents found at his roach motel in Mar-a-Lago before he lost a free and fair election to President Joe Biden. He failed to do so. And his lawyers did not try and argue that point because they couldn't. There was no proof that he tried to declassify any documents. He knowingly stole them for his own benefit and showed them to an unknown number of people at his pathetic golf resort. The documents were not securely stored and were easily visible.

When the National Archives requested that he return the classified document, Trump did return some. Under Trump's direction, the rest of the documents were hidden, and his lawyers lied about the fact that they still had even more. Trump then ignored a subpoena from the FBI to return the remainder. The FBI was forced to legally search Mar-a-Lago to retrieve the rest of the highly classified documents. Trump committed criminal obstruction of justice, again.

In contrast, as soon as 15-20 documents at the Biden locations were discovered, the National Archives was immediately informed and the documents were returned. Biden never claimed he tried to declassify the documents. Not even "just by thinking about it" as Trump claimed.

If Trump had done what Biden had done, this whole situation could have been avoided. Unfortunately, Trump is a pathological narcissist, and incapable of complying with any order from any authority.

In an effort to maintain complete transparency, Attorney General Merrick Garland has named Trump-appointed attorney Robert Hur as special counsel to investigate what happened with the Biden documents. The Whitehouse will comply with the investigation. If Biden is found guilty of any wrongdoing after the investigation, then he should be charged (a Trump supporter would never say that about the Cheeto Jesus). But, thanks to former AG Bill Barr, a sitting president cannot be indicted.

What I would like to know is how classified documents given to a president or vice president are not cataloged and tracked. And how they go missing after the person in possession of those documents no longer has the authority to possess them. That is what we should all be worried about.

[Edited by tom regan (1/15/2023 9:33:51 AM)]
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+12389) 20 days ago
Yes, Biden had classified documents. When they were found, the National Archives was immediately contacted. IMMEDIATELY. Biden didn't lie about them, didn't claim he "declassified" them telepathically, and then lied some more. He turned them over to the National Archives. There IS a difference.

What this really tells me is whoever is in charge of inventory control on classified documents is really bad at their job. I worked in retail. Inventory control is possible. They need a better tracking system.

And, again Biden DID NOT LIE about the documents. DID NOT try to hide them. DID turn them over to the National Archives.

Yes, documents were found but the RESPONSE is what mattered.
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Posted by tom regan (+3006) 20 days ago
And another point I want to make. The investigation into Trump's documents was going on for almost 2 years. No one knew about this until the FBI search in August. The first set of Biden's documents was discovered on November 4th, and we all found out about it last week. The information was not released immediately because the FBI and the National Archives are under no obligation to release that information to the media. The MAGA Republicans think this is some sort of conspiracy against Trump at the FBI. James Comey re-opening Hillary Clinton's email investigation two weeks before the 2016 election sure seems like bias to me. And they found nothing and closed the investigation 2 days before the election.

There is no anti-Trump bias at the FBI. Trump is simply a criminal. But known sexual abuse ignorer Jim Jordan find out the truth about that.
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Posted by Tucker Bolton (+3857) 20 days ago
Bernie is the only honest man occupying a seat in DC. It is a nest of greedy, self-serving, lying twats.
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+18269) 19 days ago
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Eh, I like Jon Tester. I appreciate all the work he does for our veterans.
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Posted by Frank Burns (+448) 18 days ago
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TiredofBS wrote:
What you say is true, but then I wasn't the one saying impeach.

You ARE the one who said "impeach".
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Posted by David Schott (+18251) 16 days ago

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