Is subverting the will of the people sedition or treason?

Most definitely sedition, but when you are secretly working for the Kremlin, also treason.

So where does Swalwell fits in what category? Let's not forget Hunter! And do you think Joe might have some ties with China? He's become really friendly with them. Maybe for a long time. As far as nut job she's just a nut job.

Jerry e,

How short your memory must be. Harken back to a time when Kim Jong-un, Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump were having a three way while *Jimmy Swaggart took photos and masterbated from a peephole. BTW, you pillock, It was another illustrious leader that got into bed with China. You remember Nixon, AKA tricky Dick don't you?

*I know Jimmy Swaggart had nothing to do with international affairs but he would have fit right in with Jeffery Epstein's little club.
Come on, geez.

Hunter Biden seems to have replaced Benghazi as the mantra of knuckle dragging dumbasses.

Swalwell is making a strong bid amongst the paste-eating set...

I supporting an illegal coup to overturn the will of the people sedition or treason? I just want to know the right word for all those tRumpettes who are actively trying to do that.

Tucker Bolton wrote:

Jerry e,

How short your memory must be. Harken back to a time when Kim Jong-un, Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump were having a three way while *Jimmy Swaggart took photos and masterbated from a peephole. BTW, you pillock, It was another illustrious leader that got into bed with China. You remember Nixon, AKA tricky Dick don't you?

*I know Jimmy Swaggart had nothing to do with international affairs but he would have fit right in with Jeffery Epstein's little club.
Come on, geez.

What I remember Nixon open relations with China . The only thing that Nixon did was Watergate. At least obama had the media not reported on him wire taping Trump tower.

Jerry E, let me get this straight. It was alright for Nixon to open relations with China but to continue the relationship is bad. You can't have it both ways. We, I don't believe, have ever had a person in the Whitehouse that has cozied up to dictators and shunned our allies like the man baby currently there. He even said one time that Xi had the right idea,"President for life". Looks like that is what the Orange Man is currently attempting. Are you really good with that?

nativemc wrote:

Jerry E, let me get this straight. It was alright for Nixon to open relations with China but to continue the relationship is bad. You can't have it both ways. We, I don't believe, have ever had a person in the Whitehouse that has cozied up to dictators and shunned our allies like the man baby currently there. He even said one time that Xi had the right idea,"President for life". Looks like that is what the Orange Man is currently attempting. Are you really good with that?

I really don't no where you get your information . The term is for four years last time I checked. So don't you think the Biden's have deeper involvement with China then they or media are hiding. And as far the election go's. How can you win a election by hiding in your basement. The only had one witness against Trump But you have over hundreds of witnesses for voting fraud. Now till me what's wrong with that picture. Now sleepy joe what to pack the courts. I really hope you like paying higher taxes. . Bottom line we're screwed.!

If you think the "mainstream media" is lying or hiding things from you, there's a very high probability that you are a dumbass.

Jerry E. please take your MAGA cap off and tell us where it was made. Also all the rest of your MAGA merchandise. Be honest about it.

Gunnar Emilsson wrote:

If you think the "mainstream media" is lying or hiding things from you, there's a very high probability that you are a dumbass.

If you don't think so you're bigger dumbass

nativemc wrote:

Jerry E. please take your MAGA cap off and tell us where it was made. Also all the rest of your MAGA merchandise. Be honest about it.

Well let's bring made in the US back .We all like cheaper stuff and no we're paying for it. So much for making America great again! Now we have a real pro Chinese backer in the white house .

Can you say delusional? I knew you could.

Jerry E you didn't answer the question. You deflected. Again, the double standard for tRump and his supporters. He keeps talking about made in America but imports his carnival prizes.

Tucker Bolton wrote:

Can you say delusional? I knew you could.

If you're part of the democratic party the yes you can say delusional

nativemc wrote:

Jerry E you didn't answer the question. You deflected. Again, the double standard for tRump and his supporters. He keeps talking about made in America but imports his carnival prizes.

So how was the job market be this So called virus came along. Don't hear much from the fake news media about the peace deal's going on in the middle east . So bring jobs back to America are more then carnival prizes do you think.

Biden & Harris are Communist Democrats. How do you think the next 4 years will go for the economy, international trade and commerce, and your 401k/IRA's?

Y'all were either peeing and crapping your diapers back then or old and senile now, don't remember the economic crisis of 2008-2010 that obama and biden officiated over, and hung on until 2016? Those 2 Communist Democrats had 8 years to improve America, it was a colossal failure ...you historical geniuses should refresh your memory or take you meds. The drivel and thread subjects y'all post are showing your 8th grade IQ, must be painful to be that ignorant...oh sorry I mis spoke....ignorance is bliss

https://www.jonesday.com/en/insights/2010/02/the-year-in-bankruptcy-2009

Chuckie wrote:

Biden & Harris are Communist Democrats. How do you think the next 4 years will go for the economy, international trade and commerce, and your 401k/IRA's?

Y'all were either peeing and crapping your diapers back then or old and senile now, don't remember the economic crisis of 2008-2010 that obama and biden officiated over, and hung on until 2016? Those 2 Communist Democrats had 8 years to improve America, it was a colossal failure ...you historical geniuses should refresh your memory or take you meds. The drivel and thread subjects y'all post are showing your 8th grade IQ, must be painful to be that ignorant...oh sorry I mis spoke....ignorance is bliss

https://www.jonesday.com/en/insights/2010/02/the-year-in-bankruptcy-2009

Good Lord, someone has been sniffing glue more than Jerry Erlenbusch. Maybe pass the gasoline soaked rag back to Jerry? Then in your delusional universe Trump remains the Emperor of the Senseless.

Jerry E, I said nothing about not bringing jobs back to America. I did imply that tRump should practice what he preaches and have his MAGA merchandise manufactured in the U.S. I have seen the Made in China labels on the MAGA caps. Instead of just believing all of the tRump propaganda, maybe a little research would be in order. Look back at where the economy and employment were when Obama took office. Stop depending on FAUX news for all of your information. Read and listen to a cross section of news outlets. Okay, I am done. Too much stupid stuff being posted on this thread.

nativemc wrote:

Jerry E, I said nothing about not bringing jobs back to America. I did imply that tRump should practice what he preaches and have his MAGA merchandise manufactured in the U.S. I have seen the Made in China labels on the MAGA caps. Instead of just believing all of the tRump propaganda, maybe a little research would be in order. Look back at where the economy and employment were when Obama took office. Stop depending on FAUX news for all of your information. Read and listen to a cross section of news outlets. Okay, I am done. Too much stupid stuff being posted on this thread.

You don't like hearing the truth do you.

Gunnar Emilsson wrote:

Chuckie wrote:

Biden & Harris are Communist Democrats. How do you think the next 4 years will go for the economy, international trade and commerce, and your 401k/IRA's?

Y'all were either peeing and crapping your diapers back then or old and senile now, don't remember the economic crisis of 2008-2010 that obama and biden officiated over, and hung on until 2016? Those 2 Communist Democrats had 8 years to improve America, it was a colossal failure ...you historical geniuses should refresh your memory or take you meds. The drivel and thread subjects y'all post are showing your 8th grade IQ, must be painful to be that ignorant...oh sorry I mis spoke....ignorance is bliss

https://www.jonesday.com/en/insights/2010/02/the-year-in-bankruptcy-2009

Good Lord, someone has been sniffing glue more than Jerry Erlenbusch. Maybe pass the gasoline soaked rag back to Jerry? Then in your delusional universe Trump remains the Emperor of the Senseless.

I've come to the conclusion that so people go to name calling when there losing or don't what to hear the truth. Kinda like Hitler's Brown shirts.

Is subverting the will of the people through any means, especially violence, sedition or treason? I keep asking.

My understanding of the difference between sedition and treason, both repugnant activities, is treason consists of acts against the United States to help another country while sedition is fomenting and inciting rebellion against the United States. Both involve attacks on our Constitutional government. It may well be more technical than this.

And above Chuckie wrote.....

“Biden & Harris are Communist Democrats. How do you think the next 4 years will go for the economy, international trade and commerce * * * * Y'all were either peeing and crapping your diapers back then or (sic) old and senile now, don't remember the economic crisis of 2008-2010 that obama and biden officiated over, and hung on until 2016? Those 2 Communist Democrats had 8 years to improve America, it was a colossal failure...”

Right-wingers and Republicans always bellyache that economic recoveries are too slow when the Democrats take control. Nationally, this time it is Obama. Several years ago, in Montana, it was Governor Schweitzer cleaning up after Republican governors Raciot and Martz. They managed to drive Montana into an economic burrow pit. It’s always the same. The recovery is too slow when Democrats are cleaning up the economic messes left by Republicans. With Obama it was the disastrous ‘W’ Bush’s presidency. At the end of W’s administration our economy was in free fall, losing about 750,000 jobs a month and bordering on a depression. Conversely, Obama/Biden left our economy to the orange headed cockroach in good shape.

After the depression of 1929, it was Democrat Franklin Roosevelt who was too slow in cleaning up the Republican mess. It took well over a decade to bring us back from the abyss that the Republican presidencies of Calvin Coolidge, followed by Herbert Hoover, put us in.

I suggest that before Chuckie rants on others “peeing and crapping” in their diapers or are too “old and senile now” to remember, Chuckie should try some koolaid other than that put out by a few right-wing rags, social media and/or Fox News.

Excellent response, sir/madam. So tRumpettes are seditionists, not traitors.

Amorette Allison wrote:

Excellent response, sir/madam. So tRumpettes are seditionists, not traitors.

yes, tRumpettes are, but Trump himself, as a secret agent of Vladimir Putin, is a traitor.

Trump is a common thief, a con artist, who will say or do anything for a buck.

Reading some of your posts reminded of junior high. You blame something you did on to someone else. That what the democratic party or the dimwit parts does. The when that don't like what the hear the resort to name calling.. And if they can the will shout you down. The same as Hitler's brown shirts an Mussolini's black shirts did. Now we have election stole And have all sorts of proof. And no have Joe and family having deep ties whit china. And yet you can't see past Trump. You just can't make this up . So if you don't like want some one post. Be an adult about it.

Proof really, every single one of Trunp's law suits got thrown out because there was no evidence to back up what they were saying.

Jerry despises us because we are egghead libtards. Not decent working class folks who hate Asians and brown people, like any white supremacist would.

Gunnar Emilsson wrote:

Jerry despises us because we are egghead libtards. Not decent working class folks who hate Asians and brown people, like any white supremacist would.

So why don't like Asians and American African decent people?

bh wrote:

Proof really, every single one of Trunp's law suits got thrown out because there was no evidence to back up what they were saying.

And Biden's can be dealing with China and nothing's done.

[Edited by Jerry e (12/15/2020 9:32:55 PM)]

Me thinks the only "proof" is in the bottle of Old Crow you are sipping to drown your sorrows.