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Posted by Hanson (+1277) one month ago
Is anyone alarmed by Trump and his allies’ openly threatening violence? Last month Michael Caputo, assistant secretary for public affairs at the Department of Health and Human Services said that the Democrats will try to seize power through election fraud. “When Donald Trump refuses to step down at the inauguration,” Caputo warned in a published video that “the shooting will begin.” This is in line with Trump shooting off his mouth saying that the “only way we’re going to lose this election is if the election is rigged,” and that if there is an “insurrection” after the election he’ll “put it down.” From the polls and Trump’s conduct it is apparent that he knows there is a very good chance, maybe even probable, that he is going to lose. Is the orange headed cockroach going to be the end of this Democratic Republic by refusing a peaceful transition of power that this country is famous for?
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Posted by David Schott (+15816) one month ago
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The only way to find out is to vote Trump out and see what happens.

Personally I have a lot more faith in America than I have in Donald Trump.

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Posted by glen french (+58) one month ago
It doesn't matter which candidate wins there will be no change in the polarization. It probably will intensify. There could be violent reaction left or right a'la april 12 1861. The difference today is that its the red and the blue. Wonderful parallel isn't it.

Sad the country has gotten to this point. The left condemns and shames with smug elitism and the right wraps itself in the flag and thumps the bible. Condemn and shame/fly flag and thump. Rinse and repeat. Our country is sprinkled in gasoline. Gee, what can happen ?
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Posted by David Schott (+15816) one month ago
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Glen, can you tell us what President Trump has done to heal the division in our nation? Telling the Proud Boys to "stand by" doesn't do it for me.
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Posted by glen french (+58) one month ago
I don' think he has done anything BUT encourage his pets, the proud boys. Nor has the left done anything BUT encourage the their pet groups. IMO we are in a civil war over idealism. Perhaps the right and left will use their "pet" groups as proxies to take it to the next level. Who knows ?

This country has no direction other than north and south (meaning polarity). I don't support Trump or Biden. I don't think either man is a leader or inspirational. Sadly I can't think a single person on the political stage today that would fit that description. Our government is shameful and embarrassing. But that being said this
country isn't ready for a leader, or perhaps doesn't want a leader right now. True leaders come from crisis and we haven't hit bottom yet politically, with the economy or with the pandemic. That will occur at some point, probably sooner than later, and it will be very tragic. It will take a drastic event for a great leader to come forward. And he or she will. But not now.

[Edited by glen french (10/24/2020 5:32:28 PM)]
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Posted by David Schott (+15816) one month ago
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I'm sorry you feel that way, Glen. One thing I do know is sticking with the same losing horse is rarely a winning strategy.

For many people it might be a good idea to turn off the TV and get outside and explore the beautiful world around them. It really isn't as bad as the talking heads want us to believe.
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Posted by glen french (+58) one month ago
And some say The Devil I know is better than the Devil I don't know. The winner of this election whether, Devil or horse, isn't going to fix the country.

BTW, Why not respond with conversation instead of subtle, dismissive put downs.
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Posted by David Schott (+15816) one month ago
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We should all know both candidates pretty well by now, Glen. And I know which one stood in front of the nation and rejected rioting and looting and which one told the rioters and looters to "stand by".
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Posted by David Schott (+15816) one month ago
"I want to be very clear about all of this: Rioting is not protesting. Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of this is protesting. It's lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who do it should be prosecuted.

Violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction. It's wrong in every way."
-- Joe Biden in the first 2020 presidential debate
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Posted by glen french (+58) one month ago
You are absolutely right about Trump's statements. But I think that you are missing my point, I don't want Trump to win. IMO the winner of this election is irrelevant. The polarization in this country won't evaporate if Biden is elected, it will only get worse. The country isn't ready for change because sides have been drawn up and heels are dug in. So with the quality of our talent lineup, it isn't time yet. If Trump is re elected the left is going to go ape sh**t. Trump is the mouth piece for the right so if he is out, the right will go ape sh**t. If he wins they will be emboldened. There is potential for violence from either side. Only one side will be pleased on Nov 3 or whenever all ballots are counted. The other side not so much. First we will hear alot of in your face told you so and Im in charge now crap. Then four more years investigations, impeachments, conspiracies, executive orders all just to spite the other side. And I don't want to forget to mention that a blue or red wave will get alot of crap shoved down peoples throats creating resentment on steroids. Not exactly conducive to a united electorate.
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Posted by David Schott (+15816) one month ago
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Our nation's enemies rejoice at such divisiveness.
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Posted by Jerry e (-41) one month ago
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glen french wrote:
It doesn't matter which candidate wins there will be no change in the polarization. It probably will intensify. There could be violent reaction left or right a'la april 12 1861. The difference today is that its the red and the blue. Wonderful parallel isn't it.

Sad the country has gotten to this point. The left condemns and shames with smug elitism and the right wraps itself in the flag and thumps the bible. Condemn and shame/fly flag and thump. Rinse and repeat. Our country is sprinkled in gasoline. Gee, what can happen ?


Antifa has already burnt those bridges.
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Posted by Jerry e (-41) one month ago
Reply to Hanson (#380866)
Hanson wrote:
Is anyone alarmed by Trump and his allies’ openly threatening violence? Last month Michael Caputo, assistant secretary for public affairs at the Department of Health and Human Services said that the Democrats will try to seize power through election fraud. “When Donald Trump refuses to step down at the inauguration,” Caputo warned in a published video that “the shooting will begin.” This is in line with Trump shooting off his mouth saying that the “only way we’re going to lose this election is if the election is rigged,” and that if there is an “insurrection” after the election he’ll “put it down.” From the polls and Trump’s conduct it is apparent that he knows there is a very good chance, maybe even probable, that he is going to lose. Is the orange headed cockroach going to be the end of this Democratic Republic by refusing a peaceful transition of power that this country is famous for?


Again where do you people come up with this.. Hillary the one saying that Biden shouldn't. concede.
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