Posted by Eric Brandt (+846) 15 years ago
I very rarely do this, but I will only recount the facts of my experience and in no way wish to unfoundedly bash another business. But this experience ranks right up there with the "bowl of crackers" vs "a cracker to break open the crab legs" incident at the former Olive Hotel Restaurant.

I went out for a nice dinner tonight to what is one of the nicest restaurants in Miles City - the 519. For a cool $20.50, I ordered the Rib Eye - MR.

Our waitress was new. I know her. She recently went to work there as a significant upgrade from another place. She is very good and with a little practice, she has great potential.

I especially like the crudite' platter they serve which includes pickled herring - YUM.

Now, with the quite reliving exception of our sensible waitress, the rest of the staff either thought they were at a costume party, or worked in a brothel. The one waitress must have gotten a 75% discount on her clothes. Unfortunately they forgot to tell her that 75% of the material had been trimmed away. Someone should really explain to them that "Working the Floor" doesn't mean "Let them see your pink panties when you drag your boobs across the table."

Now before you tell me that I'm exaggerating, let me agree with you. I am exaggerating a little, as the panties were not actually pink

To add a little extra spice to my fine dining experience, I was able to savor perfectly cooked beef with a little bit of Linkin Park blaring in the background. Nothing goes better than a delicious sip of Merlo and Beef finished off with a woody after taste of:

"I don't know what's worth fighting for
or why I have to scream
I don't know why instigate
and say what I don't mean
I don't know how I got this way
I'll never be alright...
"

Very nice.

So I asked the waitress if there was a more appropriate music selection for a fine dining setting. I was shocked to hear that I was not the first person to request this tonight, but that it had not yet changed!

When asked, the floozy who is normally behind the bar, but was instead sitting on a stool and carrying on with some bloke, obviously enjoying herself far more than her customer, blared out. "I can't even get behind my bar right now, so I don't want to hear it!"

My bad! Well, That was tactful. I should note here that the satellite radio device is located at the end of the bar with equidistant reach from either side. I must, therefore, conclude that she is either oblivious to customer service techniques, too stupid to operate controls from two differing directions, or more likely, both. Or perhaps she was just irritated that I was interrupting her "work".

I tolerated this way too loud and way inappropriate music for a while longer until I had to hear a little jig that went something like this:

"..nigga ass got out the motha fuccin.."


Since I am in no way so cool as to actually know who this is, I googled it and found this, which seems similar at least to the pseudo-symphony I was treated to this evening:

"Now a nigga ass got out the motha fuccin Med Center Trama
For twenty-two days I did the days I did the stay
Got out and started bacc on the campaign representin loc
It's Mr. motha fuccin Doc from the set
All you gangstas know
Can't none of them fucc with
I'm still on the spot
And watch some jealous asshole brands
Get with some youngstas just by hangin with Doc
Now that's some real bitch type poop
Nigga so how you fuccin with me
I gets my ride on betta all day
It's E-B-K
So killa on the rival nigga peela niggas dome
With a motha fuccin meana nigga killa bomb yo house
It don't stop it don't quit nigga rolls who you fuccin with
When I get off they blocc I'm bout to have my ass an empty clip
Taste these nuts fucc with the sluts
Look at flag nigga don't it make you mad
When I threw up yo set then shoot a killa
And I'm all up out this bitch
2 minutes 9 seconds nigga
Now I lay me down
But it's still Lincoln Village Killa
"

NICE! This is awesome! Add a little rosemary, some Bearnaise Sauce and a splash of Creme-de-Mint and you have a culinary masterpiece! You could not possibly enjoy yourself more.

So guys, for only 20 bucks, you can "cap some nigga ass", "break the habit", look at black panties, and be told they "don't want to hear you" all in one setting!

Make reservations for two, because "yo mamma" is really going to love it! Bring some "One's".

The above accounting is very sadly a true story. Are my expectations simply too high? Is this really normal behavior for a fine establishment? Someone please calibrate my thinking on this.

Forgive me...
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Posted by Steve Sullivan (+1420) 15 years ago
Lovely. I wish I could have been there.
The food was good though?



Good taste is not always in abundance in MC. I don't think you are out of line by thinking the whole dinner should have been in line with a fine dining experience, but it does sound like the entertainment was excellent.
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Posted by Kacey (+3161) 15 years ago
Did you actually pay for your meal? Just curious. I am pretty sure that I would have told them that I came for dinner, not to be abused by the staff, entertained by bare flesh and bombarded with music I found extremely offensive. Was there NO manager there? Who owns it?
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Posted by Russell Bonine (+236) 15 years ago


Let's hope that you have extended the same courtesy as you have demanded of others by taking the time to speak to a manager or owner in private before making your public rant.
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Posted by Eric Brandt (+846) 15 years ago
I did speak with the manager, or at least a man who accepted my request for one, after the extremely offensive song above, and he somehow was able to operate the radio and make a change.

The food was excellent, actually. And the service from my waitress was excellent. I did pay for my meal because I ate it; I gave her a nice cash tip which SHE earned.
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Posted by Kacey (+3161) 15 years ago
Did you get any kind of apology?
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Posted by Wilbur Cain (+152) 15 years ago
From the description this sounds like the standard music and dress code for the employees in this establishment. I don't see why there would be an 'apology'. I do feel the bar and eating area are basically 'together' in the 519. This establishment needs to decide if they are fine dining or hard core bar stuff.

I also would like to know who owns it as I feel they would like to know what is going on up there. I do not feel they would like the choice of music selections, but they oblviously approve of the dress code as there does not seem to be one.

This is not 'bashing' without first telling the manager or whoever. In larger cities, the newspapers and magazines employ restaurant critics to go eat and write up their experiences. I think we need a restaurant critic thread! Hopefully the owners will check it out periodically and see what is happening in their establishments good and bad.
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Posted by Joe Yates (+608) 15 years ago
Health inspections should be posted, just like the police report.

Before you eat at any food/dining place...check restrooms.. typically the cleanliness and state of affairs there is the same situation as the kitchen. Good food can come out of any kitchen....
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Posted by syracuse (+4) 15 years ago
It's always nice to hear from such a connoisseur of fine dining give us the heads up on what constitutes class in our little town...gee thanks.

A question though, does your business suffer at all from the seemingly endless tango you dance with your computer keys? A simple sentance about the choice of music and such would have sufficed. You must have a lot of time on your hands to have researched and offered us readers every lyric. Or do you think that we are too dim here in Miles City to have gotten the gist of what you were trying to say?

Thanks though for your advice, now here is some of mine:

Eat at home, watch Nancy Grace, crack open a bottle of "merlo" and tell "yo mama" to bring a dictionary.
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Posted by Chad (+1765) 15 years ago
Ted & Rich Schieffert (Lay-Rite Flooring) own the 519. I think it is a bit schizophrenic in being a bar/casino or a restaurant. One good thing- I see an Oakland Raiders neon sign in the window so it's not all bad!
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Posted by Lori Barnett (+96) 15 years ago
Hey Rich....Ya might want to fix them mo' fo' machines. But, the food is great! And I hear you got a new blender! Bravo!
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Posted by Wilbur Cain (+152) 15 years ago
I'm out in the hills on this one. What's a mo-fo machine? What's with the health dept post, is the kitchen of the 519 dirty?
What's the new blender for...the bar or the kitchen...or is it a schizophrenic blender serving both?
Hmmmm, fine dining? Never noticed an Oakland Raiders neon sign in a fine dining establishment that wasn't anywhere near Oakland CA. And last but not least 'who is Nancy Grace?'.
Sounds like the 519 should specialize in Nancy Grace (a big mama wearing brothel apparel?), a schizophrenic atmosphere, nasty lyrics, good food, and dictionaries on every table.
It doesn't sound to me like the 519 is trying to do fine dining, which is fine. It's a bar with good food.
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Posted by syracuse (+4) 15 years ago
No, Nancy Grace is a loud mouthed overly critical lawyer who has her own tv show to showcase her overly know it all mouth!!!
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Posted by Wilbur Cain (+152) 15 years ago
Thank you. I have not seen that show. And a MO FO what is that?
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Posted by howdy (+4945) 15 years ago
Unless I am mistaken, I believe that Mo Fo would be short for Mother F*****. Please feel free anyone to correct me, but that is what I take it to mean.
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Posted by Ben-wah (+74) 15 years ago
uh ... you are correct. For those of you who haven't been there, it's like an open concept room. The main dining area is somewhat seperated from the bar, but obviously, the sound system is not. And, when I am dining on a bacon-wrapped filet, with my baked potato stuffed with margarine and bacon, and a simple house salad, dry ... unless I am on a date, I prefer to watch a game.
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Posted by Rick Goff (+73) 15 years ago
:makesreservations:
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+18248) 15 years ago
These threads kill me. Lets face it, folks, fine dining is never going to come to Miles City for the following two reasons:

1. Population. There just isn't enough people in Miles City with adequate disposable incomes to maintain a decent restaurant in town. And by disposable incomes, I am referring to folks who think nothing of coughing up over $20 per person for a meal.

2. Taste. Don't take it personally, but you rubes and rustics in cow town aren't known for your gastronomic tendencies. A fine restaurant does not serve well-done steak with catsup and mac-n-cheese. I had a Miles City resident up in hunting camp this weekend, whom I served up a seared grilled piece of yellowtail tuna. This individual felt compelled to take his piece back out to the grill, to cook it until it resembled chicken-of-the-sea.

There are a few folks in town who would support a good restaurant; however, I just don't see enough to keep one in business. I do see a lot of hayseeds and bumpkins in town who would support a place that serves food provided that keno machines are chiming away and a sporting event is on the tube. And that is what you have got.
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Posted by urcrackinmeup (+136) 15 years ago
I don't think it's too much to ask when there is overly loud offensive music for the waitstaff to turn it down. Neither is it out of line for them to dress appropriately. Any owner would want the waitstaff to respond to the request of the patrons. It really isn't about 'fancy dining' as much as customer service, or extreme lack thereof.
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Posted by Chad (+1765) 15 years ago
Maybe it should become a Hooters franchise- no changes need?
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Posted by Frank Hardy (+1728) 15 years ago
For fine dining, visit Club 519, 519 Main St., on the second floor of the Professional Building (tel. 406/232-5133), a softly lit, quiet, comfortable restaurant serving very good steaks and seafood, with dinner prices in the $13 to $24 range. It's open daily from 5 to 10pm, but closes on Mondays in the winter.


http://www.sidestep.com/t...es_city_mt

....must have been reviewed on one of those closed Mondays??

Cheers!
FH
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Posted by Deadeye (+36) 15 years ago
The dinning experience at Taco John's is way more rewarding. You can get your carb fix and your meth high all at the same location.

I don't know how folks can say the dinning experiences in Miles are lacking, every restaurant in town will serve you the best over cooked peice of fine beef you've ever had. I have never, ever, ever, never ever, not once, had a peice of steak cooked to my order in the city of Miles. If it ain't over done, it won't be served.

A sure fire way to avoid food poisoning too! A very important issue here!

And that's just the way it's going to be, cause that's the way it's always been. Dangit, don't try to force us to change, it ain't welcome here. If you want a decent meal, go somewhere else... Like your own kitchen!!!!!
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Posted by Denise Selk (+1672) 15 years ago
"I am referring to folks who think nothing of coughing up over $20 per person for a meal."

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There are still people here who think you should be able to eat a great meal for two for $20.00 total. Even fast food is just about pushing that limit, with some McDonald's meals over $6.00 per (I would only know this because I have children. ).

We were recently down in Vegas and ate at the House of Blues. I had the most spectacular beef tenderloin, and my husband was totally enamored with the ribeye, but then again, the meal for the two of us was over $120.00. You get what you pay for!
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10021) 15 years ago
My fiancé and I once had a meal which consisted of only 2 tacos at Todo Mexico here in Snohomish, and the bill came to $120. Apparently, $9 shots of Don Julio Reposado can add up.
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Posted by MRH (+1529) 15 years ago
Hi,

My wife had a rib eye, cooked to perfection, and I had walleye, last Friday night at the country club. They serve the public from the menu on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday evenings, and special holidays (buffet). Someone correct if I am wrong on the days, etc. I know I am correct on the quality of the food (excellent), atmospehre (quiet), and service (excellent).
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Posted by Kacey (+3161) 15 years ago
Since it has been a while I would like to ask a question. Is the building still full of a huge cloud of smoke? I prefer my meals without the taste of cigarettes.
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Posted by MRH (+1529) 15 years ago
Hi,

I assume the smoke question was directed toward the country club. No smoke nor odor was noticed where we were sitting. We attended 4 functions during the last year and have not noticed smoke any of those times. My wife is allergic to smoke, and I do not like it, so we would notice it if it was a problem. I should add that we always sit as far as possible away from the bar area. Friday night we were near the television set, with the set turned off. We wanted to visit with friends and not watch the football game.

[This message has been edited by MRH (edited 11/15/2007).]
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Posted by Mike Zier (+134) 15 years ago
I prefer to watch football and visit with my friends--to each their own

Shoot When Officer Willems and myself were kids we would grab a couple of Burritos at M&H and eat them on a bench at Eagle Manor--Now that was fine dining
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Posted by Wilbur Cain (+152) 15 years ago
Sitting around the campfire with 'cowboy stew', now that is fine dining. Take a big piece of heavy duty aluminum foil and break a pound of hamburger on it. Add cut up onion, can of green beans, can of corn, and top with half a bag of tater tots. Some salt and pepper. Wrap the foil and let it sit on the grill for 30 minutes and it is downright tasty. Course it may be a bit of a smoky atmosphere for those of you allergic to smoke.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5096) 15 years ago
Wilbur:

Mmmmmmm

Sounds good.

I'll get right on that!
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Posted by Hal Neumann (+10255) 15 years ago
Wilbur, dump cake in the Dutch oven for dessert?
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+18248) 15 years ago
Wilbur's recipe sounds similar to one of my old favorites, passed down from my grandmother.

Take a half-bottle of Russian salad dressing, and mix in a packet of onion soup mix. Take a venison roast (sirloin tip works real well), place in a sheet of extra heavy duty aluminum foil, and pour the dressing/soup mix concoction over it. Seal tightly, and throw into a 375°F oven for 2-3 hours. Delicious!
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Posted by Linda Morgan (+582) 15 years ago
thanks for the recipe, Gunnar, gonna try it.....Always looking for good recipes for roasts.....
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Posted by Pete Petro (+283) 15 years ago
Wow, we go from butts hanging out to exchanging recipes all in one thread. Only on MC.com.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5096) 15 years ago
Wow, we go from butts hanging out to exchanging recipes all in one thread. Only on MC.com.

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Hey Pedro! ?Que pasa?

Hope all is well with you my friend. Nice to see you back on mc.com.
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Posted by Wilbur Cain (+152) 15 years ago
There was no solution on this thread for the problems at the 519. We posters don't know if the Schieffert brothers found out that the atmosphere is not conducive to fine dining when they they do not appear to be in attendance at the restaurant. Did they find out from this thread? Is Syracuse a Schieffert or just a strong advocate for the 519? I personally feel they should know what is going on at their 'investment'. Most people who are paying for prime rib do not want hear loud rap or whatever it was playing. The point was the food was good! So we moved to Good Food.
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Posted by Kristi (+20) 15 years ago
I thought I just caught the 519 on an off night when I went there for my birthday. Yes it was "softly lit" but it was not quiet or comfortable. Scene: green carpet in dire need of vacuuming, lots of smoke, interestingly dressed wait staff, and Death metal playing on the radio. At least I am assuming it was death metal with the fast guitars and screaming. The food was good, but the entire atmosphere threw me so much I have not eaten there since nor do I plan to ever eat there again. We were making fun of the music they were playing and I think they figured it out because after a while the music changed to Classic Rock so since I enjoy that kind of music I was placated for the rest of dinner. I do think they need to make a decision on what they want to be, a bar or a restaurant.
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Posted by William S. (+73) 15 years ago
The owners are up there every night. How about addressing it with them directly instead of dragging this out here?
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Posted by Traci (+157) 15 years ago
I was drawn to this thread because I too have had, what is the word, inconguent, experiences at the 519. My last trip had comfortable chairs, great prime rib sandwich at a reasonable price and the dimmer had broken on the lights so it was like a basketball court which showed all of their outdated decor and less than perfect cleaning habits. In addition, the waitress had the memory of a gnat and could only serve one person at our table every 10 minutes. We ordered our drinks together and by the time the last one arrived the first person wanted another (and before you ask, we ordered beer and wine, not complicated drinks) I was embarrassed because we were entertaining a business acquaintance of my husband. Maybe, as Gunner, suggests we can't support a great resteraunt, but some are close, they just have to be more vigilant and pull the other strings together. Odd observation - is it true that the 519 with its awful carpet and decor is owned by people who own a carpet store?
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Posted by K. D. (+371) 15 years ago
is it true that the 519 with its awful carpet and decor is owned by people who own a carpet store?

Have you ever been in thier store? Last time I was in there (few years ago), there was stuff laying all over. I don't know how you can run a buisness with that much disorganization. This lack of interest in your own establishment might account for the all complaints on this thread.

This is a rumor, and only a rumor, but I find it amusing that they are thier own best customers at the bar. Why care about the restaurant, when all your interested in is your own personal bar. Just my $0.02
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Posted by Wilbur Cain (+152) 15 years ago
I've been wondering if anyone has been up to the 519 and if there have been any improvements. If the dining cliental is all gone maybe they could sponsor a debate on the issues of the fire dept, ambulance service and fire chief vs Zabrocki. All commmissioners should be present.
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Posted by Frank Hardy (+1728) 15 years ago
Great idea Wilbur,

But why not add a twist and make it a mudwrestling competition. County vs. City match-ups. Winner selects who gets to hose down the losers and the fires.



Cheers!
FH
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Posted by BLT (+81) 15 years ago
Who gets to enter the competition, elected officials, or maybe just us bloggers. How about Eric and Rick can choose up their respective teams as captains. Anybody else have any ideas?
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Posted by Eric Brandt (+846) 15 years ago
I pick J Dyba as my vice captain!

We'll slaughter ya!

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Posted by Rick Kuchynka (+4453) 15 years ago
I'll take Custer County Resident. Since he is me, he should take orders well.
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Posted by David Schott (+18207) 15 years ago
>>Since he is me, he should take orders well.

At some point CCR revealed that he was a she so if CCR is you, Rick, then maybe you can relate to Kacey on the "This is cold" thread when she talks about having to wear pants under her dress.

- Dave
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Posted by Eric Brandt (+846) 15 years ago
I pick David Schott.

Smart, witty, and ruthlessly logical.

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Posted by Nancy (+290) 15 years ago
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Posted by Nancy (+290) 15 years ago
And he can take great photos of this event and put them in the MC Star.
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Posted by Tony Ackerman (+191) 15 years ago
Hmm, Eric choosing a former MSoftie and claiming he's ruthlessly logical.

Must be a MS user, heh!

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Posted by Rick Kuchynka (+4453) 15 years ago
I'll take Tony. I can think of nothing more bone-chillingly ruthless than a mudwrestling match against someone with an inside knowledge of Microsoft's business practices.

I'll fight fire with fire.
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Posted by Tony Ackerman (+191) 15 years ago
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Posted by Eric Brandt (+846) 15 years ago
I'll pick F. N. (name withheld) next. Every army needs line fodder.

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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr (+15369) 15 years ago
Anyone who understands the MSFT "blue screen of death" like David does should be feared!
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Posted by Tony Ackerman (+191) 15 years ago
Ah yes, kernel level bugchecks and fun of calling GPMs in the middle of the night. Unhandled exceptions, one of my favorite...

kd> kb start with a stack trace
FramePtr RetAddr Param1 Param2 Param3 Function Name
8013ed5c 801263ba 00000000 00000000 fe40cb00 NT!_DbgBreakPoint
8013eecc 8013313c 0000001e c0000005 8013cd0a NT!_KeBugCheckEx+0x194
fe40cad0 8013318e fe40caf8 801359ff fe40cb00 NT!PspUnhandledExceptionInSystemThread+0x18
fe40cad8 801359ff fe40cb00 00000000 fe40cb00 NT!PspSystemThreadStartup+0x4a
fe40cf7c 8013cb8e fe43a44c ff6ce388 00000000 NT!_except_handler3+0x47
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 NT!KiThreadStartup+0xe

kd> dd fe40caf8 L2 dump EXCEPTION_POINTERS structure
0xFE40CAF8 fe40cd88 fe40cbc4 [email protected]@.

kd> .exr fe40cd88 first DWORD is the exception record
Exception Record @ FE40CD88:
ExceptionCode: c0000005
ExceptionFlags: 00000000
Chained Record: 00000000
ExceptionAddress: 8013cd0a
NumberParameters: 00000002
Parameter[0]: 00000000
Parameter[1]: 0362cfff
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Posted by Dan Mowry (+1439) 15 years ago
Tony, isn't that series of errors what happens when remote control calls or hardware conflicts happen... like when you're trying to set up your female robot to run on under Windows?

...I mean, so I've heard?
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Posted by Tony Ackerman (+191) 15 years ago
Actually, an unhandled exception (bugcheck 1E) is the kind of like when your spouse catches you at the bar when you reported that you were going to be at a late night meeting...you know, the best laid plans of men and program code...
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