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Posted by Hal Neumann (+9919) 5 years ago
This seems like a darned peculiar thing to say. I know I'm getting old and don't see things the same as many people do. But the notion that outside powers might be meddling in a Presidential election alarms and angers me. And for a major party candidate to urge such action, even in jest or merely to keep himself "newsworthy," angers me. I know that a big part of his campaign strategy has been to say anything that will gain attention - and I know I am giving him attention by posting this - but I feel compelled to say that Trump is the biggest richard cranium to come down the pike in sometime.

“Donald Trump Challenges Russia to Find Hillary Clinton’s Missing Emails”
By Ashley Parker
THE NEW YORK TIMES
July 27, 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/20...p=cur&_r=0
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Posted by David Schott (+17055) 5 years ago
You ever buy something and have the salesperson try to sell you an extended warranty? The item the salesperson told you was so good is now so bad it needs an extended warranty. You ever wonder just who it is that actually buys those extended warranties? Those are the people who are voting for Trump.
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Posted by Mary Catherine Dunphy (+2896) 5 years ago
The Trump/Putin connection is a cause for real concern. I'm old enough to remember the cold war when most American's feared nuclear war with Russia. The fact that just two years ago, the Russian Federation, under Putin's leadership, "annexed" Crimea, an aggressive move many in the free world thought was illegal, should have us all concerned.

http://talkingpointsmemo....ly-a-thing

"Donald Trump shocked foreign-policy professionals and observers when he remarked to The New York Times that if he were president, the United States might not come to the defense of an attacked NATO ally that hadn’t fulfilled its “obligation to make payments.” The remark broke with decades of bipartisan commitment to the alliance and, as Jeffrey Goldberg wrote in The Atlantic, aligned well with the interests of Russia, whose ambitions NATO was founded largely to contain. One Republican in Congress openly wondered whether his party’s nominee could be “seemingly so pro-Russia” because of “connections and contracts and things from the past or whatever.”

Read more at:

http://www.theatlantic.co...ia/493001/
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+17328) 5 years ago
Sigh. Didn't anyone read the "Cycle of Trump" cartoon from Tom Tomorrow that I posted in this thread?

http://milescity.com/foru...447#367609

Any bets he says something more outlandish tomorrow?
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Posted by Ed who fishes (-18) 5 years ago
The Hillary Clinton campaign is accusing Trump of encouraging espionage. If all of those 30,000 + emails were simply personal emails and contained no secret or classified information, how can they say it is espionage? Is this an admission by the Clintons that maybe they were nationally sensitive and top secret after all? The plot thickens. Interesting if the Russians can find them but our own FBI couldn't........
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Posted by Bridgier (+9195) 5 years ago
Procreate you are dumb. It's not the content that's the issue, it's the act of breaking and entering to get to the content.
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Posted by Ed who fishes (-18) 5 years ago
If the content isn't part of the issue then why was the FBI looking into the content of the rest of the emails to begin with ...? And you accuse me of being dumb? At least I'm not dumb AND Blind.
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Posted by Ed who fishes (-18) 5 years ago
Here Bridger- this will help you (maybe)
es·pi·o·nage n. The practice of spying or of using spies to obtain secret information, especially regarding a government or business.
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11757) 5 years ago
You support a candidate who encourages foreign powers to interfere in our domestic affairs??? You support a candidate who admires a Russian dictator??? What happened to the Republican party?!?!?!
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Posted by Ed who fishes (-18) 5 years ago
Who said I support Trump ? You assume much and apparently know little. I'm not fond of either of the candidates....but since you're putting words in people's mouths Allison I might as well put some in yours .... Allison supports a candidate who lied to congress, lied to the American people, is taking money from foreign countries whose policies directly contradict what you "supposedly" stand for, immediately hired the DNC Chair who rigged the elections to benefit one candidate over another effectively quashing the voice of million of Americans (and I am not a Sanders supporter) ..and none of these things I mention off the cuff are even rumors...they're reality, something progressive liberals have lost touch with.....and I'd also mention nothing in my response is sarcastic or belittling which is something Bridger came out of the chute with in his reply to my initial comment. I have read the comments on this site for years and knew coming in that it would take no chumming of the water to get the simple fish to grab a hook.
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Posted by David Schott (+17055) 5 years ago
Um, "Ed", it appears to me that Ms. Allison was asking questions. You know that little symbol: ? She wasn't saying, she was asking.
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11757) 5 years ago
Punctuation. Tricky stuff.
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Posted by Ed who fishes (-18) 5 years ago
um Dave, no she wasn't. Nice try to cover though....but we're not that naïve are we? She was trying to use me as a way to throw punches at the republican candidate and the republican party...see the exclamation points mixed in there...? Punctuation....tricky stuff.
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Posted by David Schott (+17055) 5 years ago
"Ed" you seem to be conflating accusations hurled at the candidate with accusations hurled at you.
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Posted by Ed who fishes (-18) 5 years ago
I am not confused, not really, why do you point out that she was only asking me a question(s) anyways? Did my reply not answer her question ? I think it did and if she was merely asking if I supported Trump that could have been asked in a much less violatile way. Because I made the post about the espionage issue she asked, (I believe implied) if I supported a candidate who she accuses of things...If you re-read her question she does NOT say: DO YOU support ..... she says; "You support .." and even though it ends in a question mark(s) there is still a substantial difference in the way the issue was presented. Question marks can be used to express astonishment and incredulity as well as ask a question. Some may be confused, but I am not one of them.
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Posted by Ed who fishes (-18) 5 years ago
and my name really is Ed , so you needn't put it in parenthesis unless for some reason you like using them,
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Posted by Ed who fishes (-18) 5 years ago
sorry .... quotation marks not parenthesis...my mistake.
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Posted by ZZZzz (-554) 5 years ago
Yes ammorette punctuation is tough.The Miles City Star proves this on a regular basis.But alas it may be the misspelling that throws the punctuation off for The Miles City Star. The FBI was,well they signed a "hillary secrecy pact." Almost a blood pact.So they could not and cannot talk about her emails under any circumstances and she emailed classified information unsecured so why were her personal emails more important than the security of the USA and the world that she could not trust the sworn to hillary secrecy FBI Agents with them? What kind of family secrets does hillary have that needs to hidden from the FBI and US citzens that is more important than the classified information that we will never see? 30,000 emails classified by hillary as personal and not only deleted but scrubbed by a person who was secretary of state who seems to not know anything about classified information.Ok hillary did not scrub them she hired them scrubbed.
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Posted by stephen (+250) 5 years ago
I think it is fair to say that both candidates are horrible choices who will do harm to our country doing what they think is "right". Arguing over which one is better is like arguing over drowning or being burnt at the stake.. either way it's not ending well for you.
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Posted by Ed who fishes (-18) 5 years ago
All that being said, I will not stay home and not vote. Too many lives have been given in too many wars for anyone to sit out what our forefathers gave their lives to secure for us. They gave their lives so I could live mine and you could live yours. I may not necessarily like some things Trump does and says but the alternative candidate is impossible to give consideration to. Her husband lied to us and she has too. A leader can admit their mistakes and own up to them. I have never known or heard either her or her husband do this on any of the things they've been caught red-handed in. Please make sure you vote.
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Posted by Bridgier (+9195) 5 years ago
Too many lives have been given in too many wars for anyone to sit out what our forefathers gave their lives to secure for us.


Okay, sure...

I may not necessarily like some things Trump does and says but the alternative candidate is impossible to give consideration to.


Hell of a way to say thank you.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5095) 5 years ago
Fisherman Ed wrote:
A leader can admit their mistakes and own up to them.



Donald Trump: A leader who can admit his mistakes and own up to them!

Yeah, OK...
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Posted by Amorette F. Allison (+1917) 5 years ago
I still want to know what happened to the Republican party? Because the nut jobs at that convention were not the Republicans of my youth. The Neo-Fascist Party of America is very very scary.
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Posted by Ed who fishes (-18) 5 years ago
Posted by Bridgier 10 hours ago





Too many lives have been given in too many wars for anyone to sit out what our forefathers gave their lives to secure for us.


Okay, sure...



I may not necessarily like some things Trump does and says but the alternative candidate is impossible to give consideration to.


Hell of a way to say thank you.




Again, I reiterate, not really happy about the Trump candidacy, however one, must play the cards they're dealt.
I would also mention that I have not seen ANY soldiers that served in Benghazi saying they're checking the box for Clinton, quite the contrary....and I understand why.
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Posted by CarlosSantos (+871) 5 years ago
When an foreign group of people from an adversarial country hacks into our government systems and obtains classified information, we call that espionage.

When a US citizen hacks into our government systems and obtains classified information, we call that treason.

When a Presidential candidate openly invites and essentially begs an adversarial country to hack into our government systems and obtain classified information, we call that patriotism???


Perhaps I don't know much about Mr. Trump, but I assume he is an American citizen and I know that he is not an elected official in any way and hopefully never will be.

What he is, by definition at this point, is a traitor.

There is NO other way to describe what occurred.

He is dangerous to the well-being of this country and only has HIS best interest in mind. He is the single least qualified person to run this country and the single MOST qualified to run this country into the ground.

A vote for Hillary is simply a vote to prevent the collapse of Rome.
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Posted by UM Griz (+167) 5 years ago
https://www.washingtonpos...story.html

"Most notably, Trump’s son Donald Trump Jr. made that very claim at a real estate conference in New York in 2008, saying “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.” Donald Trump Jr. added, “we see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”"

"His campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, managed an investment fund for a Russian aluminum magnate with close ties to Putin. (The oligarch is suing Manafort, claiming, according to litigation in the Cayman Islands, that Manafort disappeared with $19 million.)

Manafort also unsuccessfully attempted a multimillion-dollar real estate project in New York City with funds from a Ukranian energy tycoon. And he worked as an adviser to the Putin-backed Ukranian president whose 2014 ouster sparked Russian intervention in that country, which has been opposed by U.S. officials in both parties."
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Posted by Mary Catherine Dunphy (+2896) 5 years ago
If you think it's odd, at best, for Trump to ask Russia to hack America -- in other words, asking a foreign nation to commit a crime against a political party in the world's largest democracy -- watch this.

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