Working-Class Whites Have Moral Responsibilities
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Posted by Hal Neumann (+9919) 5 years ago
"Working-Class Whites Have Moral Responsibilities -- In Defense of Kevin Williamson"
By David French
THE NATIONAL REVIEW
March 14, 2016
http://www.nationalreview...williamson

The NR’s discussion is likely sparked in part by items such as this that have made the rounds during the past year.

“Middle-Aged White Americans Are Dying of Despair”
By Olga Khazan
THE ATLANTIC
November 4, 2015
http://www.theatlantic.co...ource=SFFB
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Posted by Bridgier (+9193) 5 years ago
Trump is really going to be the death of the republican party. The rubes are getting a good look at what the swells really think of them, and it's not pretty.

Kevin Williamson is a real prick though.
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Posted by Hal Neumann (+9919) 5 years ago
Editorially I don’t find a great deal to agree with when it comes to the NR. But its opinion pieces do make me stop and think. I think it’s good to check my own opinions from time to time against sources such as the NR – maybe I won’t revise mine, but giving them a bogus check can’t hurt. There’s much that Williamson & French say that I agree with. It’s when get to action statements / conclusions that I have issues with them.
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2410) 5 years ago
Mr Trump isn't going to have a hard time unifying the party. The democratic nominee will make it easy for him. Not to mention that the protester whom rushed the stage at a trump rally a couple days ago, turns out to be an actor. He played in a movie where he played the role of a white cop whom killed a young black boy, then started a race war.
Shows the lefts disdain for police officers and the sacrifices they make, if you ask me. These leftist liberals want a race war, that's all. That's what will help trump unify the party.
I still think the high number of Hispanic votes that trump received during these elections, should be pretty close to the amount he recieves during the presidential election. Minorities love Trump, just not the Black lives Matters group that is funded by George Soros. George Soros really hates that he can't buy the next president like he has the past few.



[Edited by Brandy Allen (3/15/2016 5:22:17 PM)]

[Edited by Brandy Allen (3/15/2016 5:23:39 PM)]
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Posted by Bridgier (+9193) 5 years ago
There ARE people whose economic output isn't particularly needed in our current economy, particularly as it becomes possible to automate more and more things. For example, if I was a truck driver, I'd be VERY nervous right now about self-driving cars.

There are people who look at this question and say 'let them die'. And some say 'let those OTHER people die, but save me'. I don't think either of those are particularly good answers to the first question.

Maybe it won't matter, once everything gets too expensive to maintain
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2410) 5 years ago
Truck drivers are only the tip of the ice berg when it comes to automated vehicles. All the tractors and heavy equipment for construction is being automated faster than regular vehicles. But in this article, the author claims white men in particular are dismayed that their "old fashion mill jobs" are gone and plants are shutting down. The author claims that these are the base of the Trump voters, but he gives no facts to support this theory.

It is more likely that the white men whom lost the factories in their towns are doing well adjusting to new careers, or we would not see them voting, but rioting instead.
The Trump voters may or may not be a grass roots base that formed from adverse social conditions. But Hillary and Bernie have to pay "with George Soros money" people to protest him. Trump only needs to ask his supporters to lend a hand.

Either way, I don't think Trump supporters would have as hard of a time with getting new jobs when theirs gets outsourced to a robot, or at least they wont have as hard of a time as Hillary or Bernie supporters.
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Posted by truck (-199) 5 years ago
I support Trump. I also see self driven cars right here in Miles City, I mean who is driving them if the person sitting behind the wheel is texting with both hands or putting makeup on,or even reading a book. Back to Trump, what is wrong with making AMERICA GREAT AGAIN?.
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Posted by Bridgier (+9193) 5 years ago
Mmm hmmm.
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Posted by Ken Minow (+375) 5 years ago
"Making America Great Again"
We still vote,own guns,and are free to voice our opinions.Yes,our country has big problems but I don't ever think it's stopped being Great.
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Posted by Oddjob (+194) 5 years ago
Reply to Bridgier (#365557)
Bridgier wrote:
There ARE people whose economic output isn't particularly needed in our current economy, particularly as it becomes possible to automate more and more things. For example, if I was a truck driver, I'd be VERY nervous right now about self-driving cars.


If I was SEIU goon, I'd be thinking twice about a $15/hr minimum wage for burger flippers as well. The technology to replace them is probably already being installed in Seattle.
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Posted by Bridgier (+9193) 5 years ago
The answer of course, is to implement some sort of Basic Income.
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2410) 5 years ago
I have thought of basic citizen incomes since I heard ben Bernanke suggest dropping cash from planes. This could work since we hold the world reserve currency. If we get the rest of the world to go along and not use a basket of currencies or individual currencies. That is the only way that our regulatory system could control inflation and deflation across the globe at the same time as they find a true market value for the new world currency.

Sadly, for this to happen we will have to enact regime change in fiscally responsible nations which chose to not use the debtors system of economics. That means we must go to war with Russia and china as well as Iran and India etc. Basically the "BRICS" union must submit and give the globalist bankers "IMF" control of the oil of the world so that a bottom can be found in all markets, thereby increasing the efficiency of the NWO's financial beast.

In short, a basic income to all citizens means WW3. Lets not and say we did bridgier.

[Edited by Brandy Allen (3/16/2016 12:24:27 PM)]
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Posted by Hal Neumann (+9919) 5 years ago
I can understand the anger that the insurgents within the Republican Party feel (and I think closely mirrors the anger that drives those who are Sanders’ supporters).

A generation ago the working-class, whites who are backing Trump voted for Democrats (when they voted). Many were Union members. Many had a positive sense of class identity. As a whole, they had a positive sense of their place in America and knew that they played a positive role in the life of the Country.

In the 70s & 80s the Unions faded away as blue collar manufacturing jobs were outsourced overseas. The Democrat Party’s establishment shifted from its New Deal roots and adopted a more “elitist” stance. The Democrat Party took its blue collar base for granted, assuming that “those people” would always vote for Democrats, as it was in their best interests to do so. After all, where would “those people” go?

But the Republican Party of the 70s & 80s proved able to recruit many of “those people” to its ranks. Not by looking out for their economic and social interests, but largely appealing to their values – to fears as well. To a certain extent, it was to the Republican Party’s advantage if working-class, whites were in economic hardship. First, because it allowed money to grow ever more concentrated in the hands of the wealthy elite and just as importantly, it encouraged a sense of siege mentality among the working-class.

Working-class whites and poor whites not only suffered economically as income inequality grew, but also began to understand that they were losing their place in the country. Neither Party was sincerely looking out for them. The Democrat establish had for the most part written them off, in terms of potential votes and the Republican establishment felt confident in taking them for granted.

The Republican establishment seemed convinced the old maneuvers who keep that voting bloc firmly in the fold. If working-class white grew a little discontent, all it would take would be some sloganeering. “Obama’s gonna take your guns” Terror! Terror! “Immigrants & Others are stealing your jobs” Others! Those people are not like us – be afraid!
Encourage their sense of marginalization and they’ll stick with the establishment.

No one, from either Party, really offered up a message of hope to this group. No one showed a path forward.

Trump came along, if it weren’t Trump it would have been someone else, and channeled their anger in a direction that serves his purpose.

What’s the solution? There likely isn’t one solution. Rebuilding a manufacturing sector based on 21st century economic realities is a part of it. Reworking tax structure to free up some money at the main street level of the economy is a part. Things like that could be done, and actually wouldn’t be all that challenging to accomplish.

But there is also an element in our national psyche that needs to change – and I’m not certain how that can be changed. Many American have become wimps. Things don’t go the way they want them to; they just sit down and whine. The once thing I agreed with in the NR article was the statement about packing up and moving – if you don’t have a job, go look for one. It won’t be easy, it’s probably not what you want to do, but suck it up and get a move on – sitting on your thumb isn’t the answer.
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And as Ken Minnow said – America is a great country – folks really need to think on that.
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2410) 5 years ago
Insurgents! Comical you are Hal.

This is our party, always has been. We just got too relaxed this half a century do to living the privilege an all, I mean working 60hrs a week.
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Posted by Bob Netherton III (+2773) 5 years ago
Well put, Boomhauer!
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Posted by Hal Neumann (+9919) 5 years ago
The NR article that the kicked it off has been released from behind the paywall:

“Chaos in the Family, Chaos in the State: The White Working Class’s Dysfunction”
By Kevin D. Williamson
THE NATIONAL REVIEW
March 17, 2016
http://www.nationalreview...-not-trump

And , of course, the Atlantic chimes in:

“The Voters Only Trump Can Reach”
By Andrew McGill
THE ATLANTIC
March 17, 2016
http://www.theatlantic.co...ource=SFFB
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2410) 5 years ago
A 100% automated restaurant, Eatsa, has inspired the CEO of Carl's Jr.

The CEO of Carl's Jr. and Hardee's has visited the fully automated restaurant Eatsa — and it's given him some ideas on how to deal with rising minimum wages.

"I want to try it," CEO Andy Puzder told Business Insider of his automated restaurant plans. "We could have a restaurant that's focused on all-natural products and is much like an Eatsa, where you order on a kiosk, you pay with a credit or debit card, your order pops up, and you never see a person."


Everything will be automated in the future, glad I have my kids learning programming on Khan Academy at a young age.Robots must be given marching orders.
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Posted by David Schott (+17052) 5 years ago
This is when Andy Puzder finds out that robots don't buy hamburgers from Carl's Jr. and neither do the unemployed.

"This is the problem with Bernie Sanders, and Hillary Clinton, and progressives who push very hard to raise the minimum wage," says [Carl's Jr. CEO Andy] Puzder. "Does it really help if Sally makes $3 more an hour if Suzie has no job?"

Business Insider: Fast-food CEO says he's investing in machines because the government is making it difficult to afford employees
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2410) 5 years ago
Dominoes has a new robot coming online in Australia takes the order and pay info, and delivers the pizza. I think Bridgier and the socialist have the only real solution to this technology surge, that's to give out money. But that means competing currencies must be crushed first, so get ready for ww3.I think they planned this all along, that's why we have been surrounding the BRICS nations for the past 100 years, even before they were united together. Heck; Albert Pike all but announced this goal.

The other option is to horrific to consider, and it still would not work. Odd how the only viable path leads to government control and atheism.

Even more odd is that Trump will give them that, not Hillary or Bernie. I think this is why more democrats are jumping ship to trump. He will destroy America and diversity as well as Gods word. he may be the antichrist.

If Trump wins, diversity will be gone from the planet for good, and Gods moral compass will be skewed.

I will write in superman, he's all that can save us now.
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Posted by Bridgier (+9193) 5 years ago
Yes, we talk about it constantly at our weekly meeting in the Legion Of Doom.

"WW3?"

"HELL YEAH!"

etc, etc.
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+17321) 5 years ago
Good God even Daniel K. Allen is turning on Trump.
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Posted by Bridgier (+9193) 5 years ago
It's probably because he reads David Brooks.
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Posted by Hal Neumann (+9919) 5 years ago
Reading Brooks will do strange things to a person’s mind.
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Posted by gunsngold (-2410) 5 years ago
Maybe its because whomever the next leader, they will inherent a war between the Brics and the nato alliance. I wouldn't want my side to be seen as the enders of civility, or as the procurers of a true reset. That Hillary Clinton / Lavarov reset was a good show.

Currency wars, lead to Trade wars, lead to hot wars.

Trump is the most genuine choice we've had in a while, and that quality alone in a false world will get you and those like you killed.

[Edited by gunsngold (3/18/2016 3:19:30 PM)]

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Posted by Joe R. Whalen (+220) 5 years ago
How ironic that this thread was begun with a reference to an article from the National Review. Are we to pretend that the malaise of working-class whites and the rise of Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are not the direct result of the "southern strategy" first articulated in a 1957 OpEd by none other than William F. Buckley, publisher of the National Review, in the pages of the National Review, upon which he wrote:

Is the South not entitled to take such measures as are necessary to prevail, politically and culturally, in areas in which it does not predominate numerically? The sobering answer is Yes—the White community is so entitled because for the time being, it is the advanced race. In the Deep South the Negroes are, by comparison with the whites, retarded.


The rest, as we are learning all too well, is history. And it is the history of both major political parties.
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Posted by gunsngold (-2410) 5 years ago
It is Al gore that called for the democratic spring in America 3 years ago. Your team "old mayor" are the instigators of this anti-white movement which is seeking to stop free speech by a presidential nominee. Don't blame some old dead republicans for what George Soros is doing now.

I think Trump is a reactionary movement to a perceived threat. William Buckley only saw the writing on the wall, and forecasted. There is no real southern strategy other than, (watching their form of forced progressive multiculturalism fail), then we will say told you so.

What Buckley and duke and Strom Thurmond did was no plan. The only plan came from the progressive party, and it centers around an ideology which has become the view of the worlds leaders"couldhoven and kelergi".

There are only a few things standing in the way of the NWO, "keeping them from garnishing full control over the peoples", that's diversity, religion and national borders. If our loyalties are given to something other than the government, then they are not in control.

A nations people become more efficient from the governments perspective, when their loyalties are not divided. When they all get the same education and have the same gods and think the same way, and even look the same. Isn't that the natural progression of the capitalist way which the worlds leaders are propagating. Efficiency at all cost, even genocide.
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Posted by truck (-199) 5 years ago
Many years ago I read a article that was about one world order in 2017. Clinton would be the leader however it did not state which Clinton. We all pretty much know now which Clinton they were talking about or do we?
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6165) 5 years ago
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Posted by Bridgier (+9193) 5 years ago
http://milescity.com/foru...931#364126

I believed you the first time, you needn't try and prove it to me...
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Posted by truck (-199) 5 years ago
Reply to Bridgier (#365702)
You know its a shame that you and some of the other people on this site treat people with so much dis-respect.
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Posted by Amorette F. Allison (+1917) 5 years ago
If you present idiotic ideas, we treat you like an idiot. Conspiracy theories, flat earth, climate denial, chem trails, etc. are idiotic.
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