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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
The Miles City Star online site has many more details. http://www.milescitystar....n-homicide
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+9661) 4 years ago
Warrant issued in connection with homicide
Scott Price identified as suspect

Scott Austin Price, 37, is a suspect in the aggravated assault and kidnapping of Helen Martin. Anyone knowing his whereabouts, please contact Miles City Police Department at 234-3411. The police chief said other charges are pending, but Price is the suspect they have been seeking.

Friday afternoon a warrant was issued for 37-year-old Scott Austin Price of Miles City for felony aggravated assault and felony aggravated kidnapping of Helen Martin, in connection with the murder of her husband, 78-year-old Ed Martin, on Monday night.

More charges are pending, according to Miles City Police Chief Doug Colombik.

On Thursday Colombik said a suspect had been developed in the investigation, and on Friday Colombik confirmed of Price, “That is the suspect we are looking for.”

Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Price is asked to contact the MCPD at 234-MCPD or Central Dispatch at 232-3411.

The MCPD Facebook page notes that Price is about 5 foot, 10 inches and 180-200 pounds.

According to 16th Judicial District Court records, at 11:30 p.m. on Dec. 14, Central Dispatch received a call from Glen Greer saying there was a possible hostage situation at his in-laws’ (Ed and Helen Martin’s) house at 901 N. Second St.

According to Greer, a man named Scott held them hostage and Helen had escaped. Ed was unaccounted for.

Miles City Police responded to the address and cleared the home, but were unable to locate Ed.

Records state that Helen told the police she and her husband had arrived at their home earlier that day to find a note on the door from a man stating he had been to their home twice and would try again later. The note was signed “Scott.”

Price arrived to the home to look at buying Ed’s 2001 Chevrolet 1500 truck.

Ed and the man left the house to look at a fifth-wheel camper.

A short time later the man returned to the house with a large cut on the bridge of his nose and asked Helen for a bandage She gave him a bandage, then he assaulted her, tied her up and drug her into the basement of the home, records state.

He threatened to cut her throat if she screamed.

She eventually got herself untied and escaped. Once out of the home, she drove to her daughter’s home.

According to records, Price had told her that Ed was tied up inside the fifth-wheeler.

Officers located Ed inside the camper, deceased.

The next morning, Capt. Casey Prell located the 2001 Chevrolet 1500 parked near the 800 block of Palmer Street. It was seized and impounded.

Helen told police the man was a former renter of theirs, named Scott Price.

A search of the Martin residence revealed the contents of a safe were missing.

On Dec. 17, Jacob Idland was interviewed. He said Price had been staying at his house, and at 6:30 p.m. on Dec. 14, Price left the home to test drive a vehicle. He later came home with a bandage on his nose.

Idland said Price was nervous and uneasy when he returned, and when he observed police cars nearby, he became extremely nervous and decided to leave. He packed up his belonging and was picked up by an associate.

Price disposed of the garbage in his room before leaving Idland’s home.

Idland lives a block from where the truck was found, the records state.

Aggravated assault carries a maximum penalty of 20 years and a $50,000 fine, and aggravated kidnapping carries a maximum penalty of death or life imprisonment and a fine of$50,000. Bail is set at $500,000.

The investigation is being conducted by the Miles City Police Department, Montana Division of Criminal Investigation and Custer County Sheriff’s Office.

Price has a criminal record in Custer County.

In 1997 he was sentenced to five years in prison on burglary and theft charges, according to court records. He was sentenced in 2010 for criminal production or manufacture of dangerous drugs, a felony, and for theft, a felony, for stealing $1,796 from Walmart.

He had been sentenced to seven years on each count, which was suspended with conditions. He also was fined $1,000 and was ordered to pay restitution to Walmart.

In August of this year he admitted to 10 violations of the suspended sentence terms and was sentenced to seven years, suspending four years.

The court had recommended that he be screened by the Department of Corrections for placement in an inpatient chemical dependency treatment, followed by placement at a prerelease center.

http://www.milescitystar....n-homicide
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Posted by David Schott (+14260) 4 years ago
Seems like the DOC did a piss-poor job of supervising this Scott Price person. If the Martin family sues the State of Montana / DOC I can't say that I would blame them.
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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
Not only did the D O C drop the ball on this, our local LE dropped the ball big time on the way they handled this case from the start. I am pretty sure who ever read the whole article are shaking their heads as well as wanting answers. When I see the pic of the scum bag and read the headline thats in big bold letters I to just wonder why 4 days later did LE put pic and name out ask that we call 911 if we see this person. Well I hope Ed and Helens family demand answers from our local LE.I would be surprised if after its all over with theres not a law suit against more then one agency.
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Posted by David Schott (+14260) 4 years ago
The "public duty doctrine" probably protects the DOC from being sued for not keeping track of this guy.

Reading that Star article:

"In August of this year he admitted to 10 violations of the suspended sentence terms and was sentenced to seven years, suspending four years."

So, where has Scott Price been since August? What steps did the DOC take to track him down and get him back into custody? Perhaps the DOC is lacking the manpower/funding needed to do its job? Or perhaps someone just needs to get off their butt and do their job... or be given the opportunity to spend more time with their family.
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
A few more details in this Sidney Herald article. http://www.sidneyherald.c...09bb8.html
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
Crime stoppers reward http://milescitystar.com/...ers-reward

I wonder if these two were involved in Missoula http://missoulian.com/new...029be.html

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/22/2015 5:43:54 AM)]
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Posted by CrackerJack (+3) 4 years ago
I am confused. the Miles City Star reports Price was listed as an absconder on Dec 16th.

http://www.milescitystar....icide-case

However, when doing a search for Price I found this, notice the date.

http://billingsgazette.co...e53e2.html

Something isn't right here. It appears someone definitely dropped the ball when it comes to this guys supervision. Maybe the DOC needs to reevaluate how they spend their resources and start locking up the real criminals.
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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
Some more information on FB on the custer county virtual market. Theres a pic and a guy by the name of Dan Menard supposedly posted it. Kickn it with Scott Price and 4 others in colorado. Dan Menard FB page says he lives in Rapid City S.D....
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2408) 4 years ago
cant find it?
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2408) 4 years ago
Found it. He may be there, but may have had the guy tag him just, to throw off the law. have you called this in just in case. but I bet they got his Facebook activity under security.

[Edited by Brandy Allen (12/22/2015 11:51:30 AM)]

[Edited by Brandy Allen (12/22/2015 11:52:53 AM)]
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
Brandy has good point here we would think he left. But I can say one thing this is not scott's first rodeo here hes not dumb. like how he cleaned up before he left where he was staying at that's well educated. If them pic's do not have a date on them I would not go on that right. But who no's to its worth the follow up for sheer.I can say one thing animals rom at night.
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2408) 4 years ago
Sounds like he is headed to Mexico.
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
We need to not let are guards down at him not still being around. I can say one thing by him leaving right now it would be like throwing meat to wild dog's at this point in time. U would think the only chance he has is someone helping him hid for now. Tell things cool down. Them move off.That's my felling's about thing. The first thing most people think is run. But we are not talking about a average joe here. He was under all are noses all ready. Everyone just keep your doors looked load the gun tell he's in jail.
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Posted by Tom Masa (+1831) 4 years ago
Wendy Where are you?
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
And there's enough some bitches in this town to house him.That's whats wrong with miles city what the law needs to do is right down all scotts friends family who ever he hung out with and look in to them all and get this over with.get them combat guns out.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6167) 4 years ago
Reply to Tom Masa (#363688)
Tom Masa wrote:
Wendy Where are you?


I'm on Chrstmas holiday, Tom. Leave me alone.
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Posted by Tom Masa (+1831) 4 years ago
Wendy,Good spelling and sentence structuring does not go on Christmas Holiday!! Don't you feel a little guilty?

[Edited by Tom Masa (12/22/2015 2:20:59 PM)]
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2408) 4 years ago
I was told they got him, true?
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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
Brandy Allen, I hope its true.
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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
You know whay, you 3 or 4 people make me sick. We lost a very close friend and your complaining and taunting people for not spelling correctly or punctuation that is not up to your expectations. Well for once it is not about you 3 or 4.
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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
YES YES YES THEY GOT HIM ..
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+9661) 4 years ago
Good!! More info?
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Posted by TDF (+156) 4 years ago
Scott Price was captured in Coeur-d'Alene, Idaho today. He had killed a man in Missoula and stabbed a woman. This information was given to Helen Martin by Miles City Policemen at the luncheon after Ed Martin's funeral. The place broke out in cheers.
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+9661) 4 years ago
Wow. Don was right about the Missoula connection. The whole thing is a tragedy. Glad they finally got him though.
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
yep alright
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
Starting to get news stories on the internet. The only story I have seen so far is The Missoulian site (I think that is how it is spelled.) Two suspects were captured, no names released yet. I will try and get a link. http://missoulian.com/new...d60f6.html

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/22/2015 6:26:59 PM)]
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
also on the KPAX sitehttp://www.kpax.com/story...l-homicide

also on KTVQ http://www.ktvq.com/story...t-arrested

Also on the Miles City Star Online site :http://www.milescitystar....tody-idaho The article was written at 5:19, and mentions that at 6:30, the info was posted on the MCPD facebook site.????

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/22/2015 7:28:13 PM)]

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/22/2015 8:02:19 PM)]
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6167) 4 years ago
Reply to Tom Masa (#363692)
Tom Masa wrote:
Wendy,Good spelling and sentence structuring does not go on Christmas Holiday!! Don't you feel a little guilty?

[Edited by Tom Masa (12/22/2015 2:20:59 PM)]


Wendy,

Good spelling and sentence structuring does do not go on Christmas Holiday!! Don't you feel a little guilty?

There, happy now?
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Posted by Tom Masa (+1831) 4 years ago
Reply to Wendy Wilson (#363719)
Errr....Yes
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Posted by Homie (+4) 4 years ago
Just a question...what about all the other absconders on that list that are running around free in our fair city?
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
Woman associate's name is Sarah McKnight, according to the NBC Montana web site.

One of the suspects was arrested in Idaho for violation of pretrial supervision (I think that would be Sarah), and the other was arrested for conditional release violation (think that would be Scott Price).


I could list the link, but the bottom of the page says "No part of this can be reproduced, etc", so you can type the following into your search engine and get the NBC site, and click onto the proper link. Copy this into your search engine "2 arrested in Idaho considered persons of interest in Missoula stabbing, death", and take your chances as to if NBC Montana will sue you for reproducing the article on your computer.

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/23/2015 6:23:04 AM)]

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/23/2015 6:50:21 AM)]
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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
Even though they finally caught him, theres still many questions that surround this whole crime from the begining up till the time he was caught. I still dont understand the chiefs position in waiting till Friday to release any information and he still refused to release any yesterday until he was at the city council meeting last night. The information on the missoula crimes was given out to the public so fast that it was hard to keep up. Then when things kinda quieted down up in Idaho ,the chief still wouldnt give much info. Between Missoula LE and ID LE we were given what we all had been waiting for. INFORMATION. You can bet as this story unfolds there will be a lot of changes coming our way and a lot of loaded u-hauls,cars and trucks getting out of Miles City.. Another tid bit of information,this Scott guy was wanted back in Sept and he was harbored right here in Miles City. Yep the jails gonna fill up fast, just like it did the last time that this guy was arrested and talked...
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2408) 4 years ago
Thanks for bringing that up Carlos. Scotts son is a great kid, and is always welcome around me and mine. As are all of his kids. My son is a good friend to his son, and all of his victims are in our prayers.

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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
ya I can say they made him right why did they need him? anything that has happened in this town I can say its no one they don't already no ant that the truth.
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
All that u say truck from the chief thinking we are safe that's just bad leadership why u getting me fired up again truck lol well anyway's I could do this all day long wish all a merry xmas and the new year.
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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
More information from our main source. Missoula police find a knife possibly used in the stabbimg of the lady at food store. County attorney (not ours) plan on bringing charges on Monday against Scott Price and Sarah Mcknight. for the murders of the lady at the motel in Misoula and the stabbing of the elderly lady at food store.
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
ok truck here go's are justice system here one could say they have ran It there own way for years and its just now coming back on them I have seen and herd so many things in my days around here about the law we have here and Im not talking about the newer law guys we have now I am talking about the old ones no longer law but I am sheer a few old ones still around like chief. Are law guys seem to not last long on the team maybe for other things I don't no but they don't last long. I (think) there just to deep in over there heads to talk around here right now and at the start.funny how they got there guy down there and investigation still under way but we cant do the same we let him go do more harm and we had a week to get him they had what a day and if u wont to think miles they got what 80 miles to us totally gone from the area u no.And it don't take the suspects a week to get where they where so would like to no where they spent some time this is my last one now truck.
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Posted by cubby (+2464) 4 years ago
LRS 2014, sounds like you should become a LE and show us how things are supposed to be done, sounds like you got it figured out.
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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
All I am doing is helping in keeping out community updated on whats going on. In doing that I have to go to other LE agencies to find the answers. True there are a few of you that have no investment in our community so I would expect negative comments. If you go to the source you will see that missoula LE did actually find what they were looking for as far as the murder weapon goes. When their county attorney stated murder charges will be filed against Price and McKnight as soon as Thursday seems to be pretty good information and not rumor. Also its pretty evident that something is missing and LE has to find it before murder charges can be brought against Scott in Ed's death. Missoula is looking down on us right now for letting our trash into their community. Some are saying hush hush now,they caught him. No hush hush here cause those that are wanting it hush hush are the ones that their names will come up just as soon as what any rat does when he is cornered for the second time. Now after 2 people lost their lives and two people are lucky to be alive LE is gonna have to be accountable for their previous actions. Somebody has a lot of questions that will have to be answered, small town or not.
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
yes cubby well we all grew up here right. The old law we had back in the day was not nice to us run u over with there cars to get u. Some my think I am scum to but I no wrong from right. And I sheer no what this town was like growing up. We where right there even u. It depends on who u where how u got treated but is this right. All the scum u and I can think of may have been made by are old law. I no I am still up set with some u never forget that as kids. But I can say I see law guys in are school's system now right with are kid's showing them that just because your a cop don't mean its bad now that's what I wish we had . Now are old low was just not right when it comes down to it. I believe it was how me scott and so many more where handold by are old law at kids. I don't like how many are saying scum but how are u to say that not noing how things where. what scott did will never be right but what if he did it because of the hate he had for this town growing up? like was posted how is scotts kid's going to be treated later in life I just hop it was not like us growing up. I don't think so I can say are law now I wish we had as kids I new scott very well too we never seen eye to eye.
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Posted by cubby (+2464) 4 years ago
They have a murder weapon there, they don't have a weapon here in the murder, little more to everything then just assuming things. Not sticking up for anyone here just stating the facts.

Kind of like the arm chair quarterback knows way more then the players on the field lol.
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
New mug shot from Idaho shows the scar on the bridge of his nose. (he attained while attacking Ed Martin).

http://www.kpax.com/story...nife-found Find his new mug shot (he is now wearing a yellow shirt), click onto the photo and it will enlarge.

It will be interesting to see how they apprehended him, the red car he probably took from Missoula was not recovered (according to the Flathead Beacon), maybe the desk clerk at the Idaho motel recognized a face or photo.
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
They said in your deal there sarah and scott was arrested at the same address on Tuesday sounds like a house?
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
I see motel now so is that where they got arrested then?
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
More details have been released about an hour ago, and the additional criminal charges: http://www.kpax.com/story...a-stabbing

also http://www.kulr8.com/stor...urder-case

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/24/2015 2:01:13 PM)]
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
wow u no I don't believe she got him in missoula that's how smart our educated scott was have some one come down here from up there to pick him up ahead of time so it would make things very tuff for are law to get him we could have had a mass killer on are hands if they did not get him up there as fast as they did.
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
now I am not sheer but maybe Laurel scale video's not sheer but see what sarah was driving at the time she say's she got him in missoula might get her for us here.
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
Court documents on the Miles City incident http://www.kulr8.com/stor...urder-case

Should check other knife/assaults, murders that are unsolved. These court records state Scott met Sarah in Great Falls on the 18 th and in another spot Scott had Sarah pick him up at a Miles City motel on the 14th or 15 th. (met him sooner than the 18th. Also it is not clear how authorities in Idaho were aware these two were there. The woman who drove them to the motel, did she contact authorities or did the hotel workers contact the law?
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Posted by Bob L. (+5040) 4 years ago
White supremacist from Miles City? Unpossible!!!!
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
Price said that after the attack at Martin's home, he went to a motel and waited for Sarah to pick him up. The previous police report said Price went to Mr. Idland's home and was picked up there. Price walked by Ed Martin's safe and saw 4,000$. Think it is hard to walk by a safe and know how much money is in the pile. Things still need to be sorted out.
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
now I don't believe Ed made the first hit with the light like that if someone wont's to sale it u don't wont to run your buyer's off.IT was a planed deal he new ed to have money like all new he did in town and where Ed lived was not a good area to keep lot's of money where he was over there was a animals delight.
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
Price "used a nearby knife to stab Mr Martin" I suppose Price is claiming self defense.
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
one thing too someone that cleans up where he/she was staying says he/she is hiding something if only we could find his garbage what ever he cleaned up right.
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Posted by Bonnie Boggs (+59) 4 years ago
I've read what you have all thought and said about this crime and the details and questions surrounding these cases. Lonette Keehner the lady who was stabbed to death in the motel is my sister. I would hope that none of you ever have to go through what I and my family have been going through these past days. She was not only my sister but a wonderful wife, mother of 3 and a fantastic grandmother. When she died she was at work doing nothing wrong, just her job. Our lives have been shattered and the holidays will never be the same. Helen's family will endure the same loneliness and sadness. The news can give every detail in the world. People can contemplate opinions and come up with questions and answers to any of it. What it really boils down to is we have lost 2 wonderful people because of the selfishness and disrespect of a criminal. I am sad and in disbelief but I am also angry. Ed is dead,Helen'slife is changed forever. A family link has been broken. Price was not stopped and went on to kill again, my sister, and stab another lady. They were innocent victims. They paid the ultimate price for someone who should have been locked up and was not. I would hope our law enforcement will make the right decisions so no one will have to feel the way we do.
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
we all here u and can fell what your pain would fell like I am so so so so sorry what has been done love go's out to all.
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2408) 4 years ago
Thank you for the information about your sister, I am sorry for your loss. I think the death of your sister was completely avoidable as well. I know truck and a few others think that some other puzzle pieces may be missing here as well. Time will tell, people sometimes remember things clearer after reflection. May god be with you.
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
one more thing before I go if scott trough the knife into the river he had to ether stop the truck get out and trough it in the river now if he was driving when he trough the knife out the passenger side window it may have not even made it in the river it could be laying on the side hill over there I would say start at the road from ed's house going on to the dike and looking tell the mouth of tung and yellowstone would be my guess if its just laying there it would take a good through to make it in the river by the drivers seat its worth the look
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Posted by ABE (+423) 4 years ago
Huh

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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
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This post was removed 4 years ago.
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr. (+14076) 4 years ago
I guess we can take comfort that this guy will be judged by a jury of his peers.
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2308) 4 years ago
LRS 2014... Whomever you may be... I hope your New Years Resolution is to be gifted a dictionary.
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
Yes I did try to fix the note it would not let me but its throw and yes one would say the book would help me lol
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
According to Scott Price, Ed Martin struck Scott on the nose with a flashlight, causing the bad cut on his nose. I think it was the knife Scott was using, went astray in the struggle that caused the bad cut and find your story really, really hard to believe that a flashlight could have caused the bad cut.

Miranda Fenner of Laurel was killed in a similar knife attack, but Scott would have probably been around 22 years old at the time.

They did not say how many knives he had on him when he was arrested. Report says "numerous"

Also interesting to find out where Sarah McKnight's husband was during all of this. Sarah says she met (I imagine for the first time) Scott in Great Falls, but Scott said Sarah picked him up at a hotel in Miles City after the attack on the Martins. (the hotel part is untrue, and maybe all of it is untrue.) I wonder if someone is shielding Sarah's Husband from something. Seems like Scott knew Sarah's husband before Scott met Sarah in Great Falls.

Something missing in this "Bonnie and Clyde" sequel.

Sarah is no longer at the Kootenai jail facility.

Interview with neighbor http://helenair.com/news/...cacee.html





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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
Yes this hole thing has been a mixed up mess werd on the street is ed would get loans from butch for property buying now we all no the 600 has walk outs all the time and we have made it this fair and any calls are law would have butch would have to be in on the call making right? Anyways i am a little up set about a nether deal too rob shiply sitting in jail right now for 90 days for his yard being messy now I for one no butch has some places too that has junk laying in them and I no more with golf cart parts all over what is it depends on who u are gives u that right to be able to have stuff now all u doing to rab Shipley is making a neither killer and butch u in that Mans sights I can promise u that
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Posted by Bridgier (+8278) 4 years ago
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
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Posted by K. D. (+364) 4 years ago
LRS, please go back to school and finish 3rd grade. Your not a cop, as your writing skills prove that, and apparently your reading comprehension is lacking just as bad. So please, let the professionals do their job, and shut the hell up. You have absolutely no idea what you are even talking about most of the time. You are just spewing stupidity, I even feel stupider for just replying to this post.

I really have no idea what it has to do with the homicide, but Rob is out of jail, as he got his yard cleaned up, and therefore he was realeased.

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Posted by spacekace (+886) 4 years ago
Did the pot just call the kettle black?



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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2408) 4 years ago
Self defense hmm!

I would like to know when his rental agreement with Ed ended. Also when he got the manufacturing charge. I am not buying this stuff.
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
I'm sorry to make some made I will just watch from the side lines
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
I see a Sarah McKnight-Larson was added to the Spokane prison system on the 24 th. Is that the same Sarah that was arrested in Idaho? http://www.spokanecounty....fault.aspx
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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
Different middle names, however that doesnt mean its not her. How many people think that Rod Shipley has graced us with his presence once again on this site.
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
What is her middle name in the prison listing? The Larson is not a middle name, it is the last name of the person she married after she married Mr. McKnight. She is listed as Sarah McKnight-Larson. McKnight could also be her maiden last name.

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/26/2015 6:37:24 PM)]
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Posted by MRH (+1419) 4 years ago
Reply to Don Birkholz (#363870)
Don Birkholz wrote:
What is her middle name in the prison listing? The Larson is not a middle name, it is the last name of the person she married after she married Mr. McKnight. She is listed as Sarah McKnight-Larson. McKnight could also be her maiden last name.

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/26/2015 6:37:24 PM)]


The age (32) is the same in the listing and newspaper article.
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr. (+14076) 4 years ago
Is there any reason to be concerned that all of the idle speculation and home-spun theories about what happened might make assembling a jury pool difficult?
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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
Its listed as Rae on the Washington inmate list. Who knows which or what name she uses. Seems like these type of people have alot of alias's. So Rob the rabbits out of the hat, so please start at least spelling words correctly so one can understand what your trying to say, ok?
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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
Richard, why would you think that? Can you explain that a bit more?.. Then I will respond probably with a whole page of what you dont want to hear.
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr. (+14076) 4 years ago
Richard, why would you think that? Can you explain that a bit more?..


-Currently, this thread has had 8407 views and the Sad Day in MC has had 14,706 views. That means that potentially a large part of the local potential jury pool has some knowledge of this case. What they know about it may or may not be acurate, but has the potential to bais potential juriors.

Because there may have also been a crime committed by this individual in Missolua, this story is getting statewide attention. It's possible that this guy, who needs to be presumed innocent until proven guilty may not get a fair trial. It is possible that because of the type of trial, there will be multiple appeals. I know most of those posting here don't really care about that requirement and would as soon hang him from a tall cottonwood in Riverside Park. I think some caution about all of the speculation and rumor mongering is a prudent course of action. There is a process to be followed here and we ought give law enforcment the courtesey of doing their job.  

-I am not the only one raising this issue. I learned this evening that the County Attorney has also expressed a similar concern.
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
I am assuming the trial (if there is one), is not going to be held in Miles City. If you want everyone in Miles City to stop talking about the crime, good luck. Scott has admitted he killed Ed Martin. I think his only defense would be that he was insane or did it in self defense. As of this moment, I don't think he did it in self defense, but he might have been insane. If he is going to claim self defense, and the defense proved to me it was, I would vote "not guilty". If he is going to claim insanity, honestly, I think it is possible that he was insane.

So, if a lot of people in Miles City think this is not a case of self-defense, the defense should argue the trial (if there is going to be one) should be moved. If a lot of people in Miles City think he was insane, the prosecution should try and get the trial moved.

I want to see Scott get a fair trial, and I think it should be moved. I see comments on other sites in Missoula about how quickly Scott should be hanged.
Freedom of speech is important in this country and rather than infringe on this, simply move the trial. That would stop an appeal dead in its tracks.

I have seen Scott's account of the Miles City carnage on KULR, etc. I have not seen it in the Miles City Star (probably at the request of an attorney). I assume that most of the subscribers to the Miles City Star have already seen the details on KULR, etc, that the Miles City Star may be censoring. By trying to halt the discussion, you are trying to shut the corral after the horses are gone. Move the trial.
The Sherry Arnold trial was moved from Sidney to Glendive, moving trials is commonplace in small towns and should be done here, stop sounding like it is the end of the world.

Glendive would be the best choice since it is the closest.

Richard, you are expressing concern that all this discussion could lead to a biased jury, and you mention the county attorney expressed the same thing. You probably shouldn't have mentioned that, the defense will use that statement to argue for a motion to move the trial. Let's see, the defense will most likely move to move the trial, the prosecuting attorney has expressed concern of a biased jury, (you heard it here on milescity.com), sounds like a done deal to move the trial.







[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/27/2015 6:02:24 AM)]


[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/27/2015 7:06:21 AM)]

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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
One thing I dont understand is why would you say (may have) in regards to the crime in Missoula. Did he not allready confess to that muder and the one right here in Miles City? I would think that he would be going to Missoula instead od Miles City. As far a a trial being held in Miles City it's highly unlikely due to the fact Miles City could not sustain the cost of a murder trial. Now for all the information that some individuals have put out there is not home spun or home grown. Most if not all of the information came from other LE agencys along with United States Marshal Services and those news networks that were reporting. We in Miles City were given more information from outside sources then our own sources. I could be wrong but I would think that laws here in Miles City are not much different then those in Missoula as far as what LE can or can not put out to the public. Lets be honest here, we as a community were left in the dark when it came to our own tragedy. At first I thought that I was the only one that was questioning the chiefs decision to wait to release the name and the pic 4 days later even though he had probable cause to arrest him. The other LE agencys and news stations also make sure they mention that as well. Ya I know some will say that it would of jepordized the investigation,well look at all the information that missoula LE and media put out there during their ordeal.Theres alot of questions that need to be answered. Like I said read how Missoula handled their ordeal,from start to finish,then re-read how ours was handled. I realize that no post or topics will bring back ED nor will it bring back the lady that was brutally murderd in Missoula nor will it make the wounds go away both mentally and physically that Helen and the lady in Missoula are dealing with, however it will open the eyes of many and force those to answer the unanswered. I was at walmart a day or so ago and heard two different conversations that I and many others over heard and I know for me it made my stomach roll. The one conversation was between two gentlemen that were talking about a list of names that a certain individual had given LE, also how the jail is gonna be filling up. Now the conversation that made my stomach roll and some anger come back was that of. " Ya I seen where Miles City let there trash get to Missoula, They went on to bash the chief and our LE. That conversation made me angry. Yes I have mentioned the chief in some of my post, not to bash him but rather plead to him to at least speak, and explain. I had nothing to use in my defense or the chiefs. When I got home I re-read what the Gazette said about some one not be available for comment for 2 weeks, I just shook my head.
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr. (+14076) 4 years ago
Well the difference between Missoula and Miles City is the ecomonic resources. It's not been that long ago that the Custer County Sheriff used a hotmail account. IMO, too many in are expecting a Leroy Jetho Gibbs NCIS level investigation on a Andy Taylor Mayberry RFD budget.

Don said:
Richard, you are expressing concern that all this discussion could lead to a biased jury, and you mention the county attorney expressed the same thing. You probably shouldn't have mentioned that, the defense will use that statement to argue for a motion to move the trial.


I don't know, maybe your right. The only reason I mentioned it was as a point of validation that someone way smarter than myself had the same thought.

[Edited by Richard Bonine, Jr. (12/27/2015 12:40:15 PM)]
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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
Richard, I was hoping for a bit more commentary from you in regards to my last post. I am not trying to poke at ya or be dis-respectfull. Just would like other thoughts and opinions.
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
This inmate in the Spokane County jail, who entered the system December 24 th, by the name of Sarah McKnight-Larson, if she is Sarah McKnight, they have just listed her status as fugitive.http://www.spokanecounty....fault.aspx
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Posted by David Schott (+14260) 4 years ago
Don, I believe "FUGITIVE" is the offense/charge she is being held on.

Charge 1 RCW: 10.88.320: FUGITIVE
Report Number: 15950952 Report Agency: 030 - SPOKANE COUNTY JAIL
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Posted by David Schott (+14260) 4 years ago
RCW 10.88.320
Charge or complaint—Warrant of arrest.


Whenever any person within this state shall be charged on the oath of any credible person before any judge or magistrate of this state with the commission of any crime in any other state and, except in cases arising under RCW 10.88.250, with having fled from justice, or with having been convicted of a crime in that state and having escaped from confinement, or having broken the terms of his or her bail, probation, or parole, or whenever complaint shall have been made before any judge or magistrate in this state setting forth on the affidavit of any credible person in another state that a crime has been committed in such other state and that the accused has been charged in such state with the commission of the crime, and, except in cases arising under RCW 10.88.250, has fled from justice, or with having been convicted of a crime in that state and having escaped from confinement, or having broken the terms of his or her bail, probation, or parole and is believed to be in this state, the judge or magistrate shall issue a warrant directed to any peace officer commanding him or her to apprehend the person named therein, wherever he or she may be found in this state, and to bring him or her before the same or any other judge, magistrate or court who or which may be available in or convenient of access to the place where the arrest may be made, to answer the charge or complaint and affidavit, and a certified copy of the sworn charge or complaint and affidavit upon which the warrant is issued shall be attached to the warrant.

http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW...=10.88.320
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
Sarah McKnight-Larson must be the same as Sarah McKnight. Don't know if she changed her name or just uses both. KTVQ mentioned tonight that the Idaho jail facility said she was gone, but would not say where. KTVQ is aware of the Sarah McKnight-Larson Spokane County Jail connection, maybe they are just trying for an official source.
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Posted by David Schott (+14260) 4 years ago
It seems that Kootenai County, Idaho, houses at least some of its inmates in Spokane County, Washington, jails.

http://www.nonewprisons.o...ANews.html
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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
She was wanted for theft charges in Washington as well as being involved in another around Great Falls...
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
More details in tonight's Star: http://www.milescitystar....ide-charge "Price took a knife inside the camper" is somewhat confusing.(from inside the camper?) ( I suppose the duct tape he probably used was just lying around on the table.)

How did the U.S Marshalls "discover their location" at their motel, in Idaho, when the red stolen car was not at that motel? I think they would have to have been tipped off.

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/28/2015 9:22:56 PM)]

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/28/2015 9:54:30 PM)]
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Posted by David Schott (+14260) 4 years ago
It's possible that when they located McKnight's car at the Super 8 Motel in Missoula, now knowing that McKnight was a person of interest, that they then tracked McKnight's cell phone to the motel in CdA.
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
Reply to David Schott (#363918)
Under your scenario,the police would have had to be there waiting at the motel when the lady dropped them off. The police arrested Scott and then waited for Sarah to return, probably went to get some food. So the police did not arrest them the minute they reached the motel. They arrested them some time after they arrived at the motel an by that time, under your scenario, the woman would have been long gone (why would she hang around after dropping them off?, but yet the police knew who this lady was that gave them a ride. I still think this lady that gave the two a lift probably notified the authorities that she gave a ride to the two suspects that she had seen pictures of. But your idea is interesting.

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/28/2015 11:13:06 PM)]

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Posted by David Schott (+14260) 4 years ago
I haven't read any of the details of their arrest in CdA. I was just tossing out the possibility of tracking a cell phone in reply to your comment:

Don Birkholz wrote:
"How did the U.S Marshalls 'discover their location' at their motel, in Idaho, when the red stolen car was not at that motel? I think they would have to have been tipped off."
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
Kind of interesting that in the court documents of both Sarah McKnight and Scott Price (on the Missoula incidents), which appear to be the same except for the names of the defendants, Sarah McKnight has 28 lines of statements to the police, and Scott Price has only three lines of what he said in his interview. (and he couldn't remember much of what happened in the Missoula parking lot).

Price did admit to striking a woman while holding a knife. Isn't that called stabbing?

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/29/2015 7:14:09 AM)]
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
Price is now in Missoula jail http://www.abcfoxmontana....soula jail
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Posted by tjh (+143) 4 years ago
Don, get a job, life, or the game Clue! Let law enforcement do their jobs! Why is it when there's bad news you're always in the middle of it! Do you have nothing better to do with your life then wind up the rumor mill?
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
First Court appearance for Scott Price. http://www.kpax.com/story...-set-at-1m
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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
Don does not thrive on rumors. If you read his comments his information is not just rumor. If you rely on local agencys of sort the most likely you will be waiting a long time for the truth. I think its halarious that there are some that are getting very nervous that this wont go away or be kept quiet. Thanks for the post Don and the information .
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
Two more articles in the Star today. http://www.milescitystar....k-20-years

http://www.milescitystar....alty-price

This 1800$ he allegedly stole from Walmart, was that shoplifting, or did he used to work for Walmart? What jobs did he have while in Miles City?

Have never seen how long Helen Martin was tied up before she freed herself, I think she might have been tied up, maybe four hours.

One news source lists Sarah McKnight as Scott's girlfriend, seems unlikely.

The KPAX news story on the court action (video) says the police recovered knives, duct tape, zip ties and bloody clothing from the suspect's vehicle, I think those items was recovered from the motel room in Coeur d" Alene.

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/30/2015 6:16:54 AM)]

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/30/2015 6:24:15 AM)]
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+13658) 4 years ago
One news source lists Sarah McKnight as Scott's girlfriend, seems unlikely.


Agreed.




This picture of her screams "METH HEAD."
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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
Not sure about some of your questions Don. I do know that Scott's girl friend is from here in Miles City, She supposedly was missing, according to her sisiter. When someone suggested some sort of a account to help find missing sister, all of a sudden she was not missing and reported to be ok.
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
Can't hardly tell Scott apart from his public defender.

The Star article says Sarah was wanted for theft, but the following says she was wanted for robbery http://presstelegraph.com...-bail.html

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/30/2015 10:35:04 AM)]
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
Don it was shoplifting he pushed new TV's right out the door's of Walmart that valued that much he did not work there I do believe he was working at brawler's right across from doedens on air port hill.
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Posted by LRS 2014 (-83) 4 years ago
Don I believe on Helen it happened at around 8pm she made the call from family's house to 911 at 11:30 pm so a good 4 hour's
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2408) 4 years ago
Why would her being his girlfriend be unlikely?
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
In all the other news reports and interviews, the girlfriend relationship is not mentioned. It is mentioned that Sarah was married (Sarah's husband knew Scott before Sarah met Scott in Great Falls, supposedly for the first time.) What is the source for the news report that Sarah was Scott's boyfriend? No big deal, but I find it doubtful. Sarah met Scott on the 18 th in Great Falls and four days later they were arrested, not much time to become girlfriend/boyfriend.

Sarah was wanted for "theft-2D obtain and control" in another piece.

Scott is barred from contacting any witness until this is resolved, that means he cannot talk to Sarah for a few years.

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/30/2015 12:06:30 PM)]

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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2408) 4 years ago
Just asking, because these meth heads don't seem to have any real ideology or loyalty from my research. They seem to change their partners and principles like most people change pants. I don't think it mattered to these two if they had meet, and within an hour were "hooked up", as long as they were high.

And who was the guy that posted the misleading tag on Facebook, was that a ruse, or an old tag? Kind of hard to profile a guy when his tattoos say one thing, and his actions say another.
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
I did not understand the Facebook thing, something about Rapid City? I have seen a reliable report that he did live in Rapid City for a time. There are a string unsolved murders involving Native Americans in that area, but nothing connected with Scott Price.

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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
Not sure what become of the guy that put the pic on facebook however I hope he to is held accountable. As far as Scott's girlfriend goes, she is from right here in Miles City. She went missing during all this. Supposedly her sister claimed she was missing as well. However when a person on facebook was gonna start a Find Carrie Fund, her sister quickly reported that her sister was fine..
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
Sarah is the most believable in all this. She is coming forth with information damaging to her case (white supremacist background, she was the one who told a concerned person at the motel that everything was o.k.).

Scott is going around being very vague (found a nearby knife-where did you find it Scott, on a table, sink, and Scott said Sarah picked him up at a motel-what was the name, Scott?

I would imagine Sarah would have to appear in court soon.

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/30/2015 3:18:53 PM)]
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2408) 4 years ago
Is Sarah a white supremist, because she appears to be of Indian origin in her picture?
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
According to her statement: "She knew Price through her husband and, according to their presence on social media, all claimed white supremacist ties."

She is listed as having blue eyes and brown hair. I don't know if that rules out anything.

[Edited by Don Birkholz (12/30/2015 5:51:31 PM)]
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2408) 4 years ago
Just going by the picture, and the Facebook pic of the guy from south Dakota.
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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
I am gonna ask this question again. Who stands to lose the most if the trial is not held in Miles City?
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Posted by Nigel1990 (+6) 4 years ago
They have a murder weapon there?What's your meaning here?
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1126) 4 years ago
Sounds to me as if Sarah was in jail in Great Falls and did not pick Scott up in Miles City.
Sorry, can't get the link to work. Type the following into your search engine, in quotes: "Montana murder suspects have ties to white supremacy" It is a Southern Poverty Law Center article.

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Posted by truck (-197) 4 years ago
I have been reading through all the topics and comments in regards to Scott Price and Sara McKnight, along with the information that has been made public. I still have questions. How did scum bag Price get to Great Falls? There is two conflicting stories. My next question is, why would the courts want to re-visit McKnights bail amount? I believe its set at one million dollars as of now. I dont really understand why as a community we have to go outside of our news agencies and LE agencies to be provided information, this has been the norm since day one of this whole ordeal.
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