The Origins of Fascism
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Posted by Hal Neumann (+10357) 7 years ago
“The Origins of Fascism”
By Elizabeth Wiskemann
HISTORY TODAY
Volume 17 Issue 12 December 1967
http://www.historytoday.c...ns-fascism
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Posted by Bob Netherton III (+2779) 7 years ago
It's nice to watch history re-unfold before our very eyes.
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Posted by Oddjob (+188) 7 years ago
Why, yes, it is, Bob. How observant.

You must have caught the part where she explains how Fascism is just another faction of the Left, before she departed from reality and started dropping terms like.. "Republican"..

Fascism is the Bill Ayers violent faction of socialism. That's why Fascism blended so well with the Nazi's National Socialism.

And it's coming to your town on college campi from sea to shining sea.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5100) 7 years ago
Sorry, oddjob, your boys are the fascists.

No amount of revisionist history can change that fact.

Deal with it.
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Posted by Bob Netherton III (+2779) 7 years ago
You're so cute when your panties are in a bunch, odd.

If you don't recognize fascism in Trump's stump "speeches", you are blind as a bat.

Trump's own party are now finally criticizing him which is ironic because most of the rest of the clown car bunch are nearly as bad. Especially Carpet Bomber Cruz who has remained silent toward The Dumbsh!t The Donald.

So, you agree with Trump?
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Posted by Bridgier (+9508) 7 years ago
I can get '12"' tattooed onto the side of my penis, it doesn't make it a foot long.

Hitler can call his party the National Socialists, that doesn't mean they actually were.
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Posted by Hal Neumann (+10357) 7 years ago
“Trump May Be a Loudmouthed Demagogue, but Is He a Fascist?”
By Siobhán O'Grady
FOREIGN POLICY
December 9, 2015
http://foreignpolicy.com/...a-fascist/
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Posted by Oddjob (+188) 7 years ago
My only opinion on Trump is; how could he be any worse that what we currently have? He has the entire politico-media complex crapping their collective pantillones, which I don't particularly view as a bad thing.

As to the topic, I have this on the authority of some of the finest Socialist/Communist professors who ever taught at American Institutions of higher learning, because I sat in their classrooms.

Only those brainwashed by the propaganda from the Left believe that Fascism is a Right-wing analog to Socialism and/or Communism. Born of the same mother, the only difference between them is Socialists seek to control by coercion, whereas Fascists control by force when coercion fails.

The Right is defined by free market Capitalism. The last time free market Capitalists were seen engaging in civil disobedience, they were throwing crates of tea into Boston Harbor.

We all know how that worked out.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5100) 7 years ago
Hey Oddjob:

How about all those folks running around with the awesome swastika tattoos? You know, your pals the Neo-Nazis.

Yeah, definitely leftists...

And that Hitler. HUGE liberal!

[Edited by Bob L. (12/11/2015 9:48:41 AM)]
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2416) 7 years ago
The origins of fascism is in self defense.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5100) 7 years ago
Everybody's coming home for lunch these days.

Last night there were skinheads on my lawn.
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2416) 7 years ago
The swastika is an age old symbol.It is considered to be a sacred and auspicious symbol in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism and dates back to before 2nd century B.C.

It has overwhelmingly stood for peace and stability throughout the ages. until recently when a liberal Ashkenazi Jew "hitler" invaded a bunch of European Jewish lead nations while screaming white unity and waving a swastika.
The word Nazi comes from Ashkenazi Jews "liberals" hitler. Ashkenazi's have changed their name and association these days to liberal progressives. But their goal is the same as hilters goal, to destroy the European jews that side with Christianity.

In the same way that there are two sects of muslims, there are two sects of jews. But in the end there are liberal defeatist(Ashkenazi's) and self defenders European jews and Christians.
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Posted by David Schott (+18536) 7 years ago
Reply to Bob L. (#363263)
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Posted by Oddjob (+188) 7 years ago
Reply to Bob L. (#363260)
Bob L. wrote:
Hey Oddjob:

How about all those folks running around with the awesome swastika tattoos? You know, your pals the Neo-Nazis.

Yeah, definitely leftists...

And that Hitler. HUGE liberal!

[Edited by Bob L. (12/11/2015 9:48:41 AM)]


A waste of time, but here goes anyway. (Without the associations to vile hate groups.)

This is exactly what I meant about propaganda. What defines the neo-Nazis as right wing? Is it their crusade for free markets? Are they beating up people who disagree with the concept of the less government interfering in their lives?

And finally, what was it in German society that Hitler and the Nazis (collectively known as "The German Government") didn't control?

Repeat after me: "A society controlled by the government is a Socialist society."

As defined by their name National Socialist Party the Nazis did everything Socialists do and took the next step.

Socialists with baseball bats, guns and concentration camps are Fascists.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5100) 7 years ago
Tell me what defines the Neo-Nazis (your pals) as liberals.

They seem to be prejudiced against against racial minorities and homosexuals. Just like liberals, huh?

Keep trying.

All the revisionist history can't change the facts. Nice try. Not really.
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2416) 7 years ago
The national socialist liberals, that's about the size of it.
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2416) 7 years ago
Bob said
They seem to be prejudiced against against racial minorities and homosexuals. Just like liberals, huh?

Where did you get that from, I don't see the post that said that. I hope you didn't make that crap up, cause it stinks. And you used a word twice.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5100) 7 years ago
White supremacist groups see Trump bump
'He has sparked an insurgency,' Stormfront founder says.



http://www.politico.com/s...sts-216620



Wow! Folks must not know Trump is a leftist!
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10014) 7 years ago
Reply to Oddjob (#363274)
Oddjob wrote:
This is exactly what I meant about propaganda. What defines the neo-Nazis as right wing?


Very first sentence of the Wikipedia article on Neo-Nazism.

Wikipedia (Neo-Nazism) wrote:
Neo-Nazism consists of post-World War II social or political movements seeking to revive the far-right-wing tenets of Nazism. The term neo-Nazism can also refer to the ideology of these movements.

Neo-Nazism borrows elements from Nazi doctrine, including ultranationalism, racism, ableism, xenophobia, homophobia, antiziganism, antisemitism, and initiating the Fourth Reich. Holocaust denial is a common feature, as is incorporation of Nazi symbols and admiration of Adolf Hitler.

Neo-Nazi activity is a global phenomenon, with organized representation in many countries, as well as international networks. In some European and Latin American countries, laws have been enacted that prohibit the expression of pro-Nazi, racist, anti-Semitic or homophobic views. Many Nazi-related symbols are banned in European countries in an effort to curtail neo-Nazism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10014) 7 years ago
Also:

Wikipedia (Right-wing politics) wrote:
Right-wing politics are political positions or activities that view some forms of social stratification or social inequality as either inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable, typically defending this position on the basis of natural law, economics or tradition. Hierarchy and inequality may be viewed as natural results of traditional social differences and/or from competition in market economies.

...

Although the right-wing originated with traditional conservatives, monarchists and reactionaries, it has evolved to include neo-conservatives, nationalists, fascists, nazis, racial supremacists, Christian democrats, religious fundamentalists, and classical liberals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/...g_politics
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Posted by Hal Neumann (+10357) 7 years ago
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10014) 7 years ago
^^^ That.
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2416) 7 years ago
Bob L said
Wow! Folks must not know Trump is a leftist!

Protectionist -- definition

An advocate of government protection for domestic producers and subjects through restrictions on foreign competitors.

He's a protectionist.

No more Muslims until the war on terror is over. Better safe than sorry. Not to mention we have plenty of American soldiers that could do with a higher wage and vets need more perks for their sacrifice as well.

Tell them folks stay over there we have enough issues. Or at least if they have to come here, give them a nice liberal family to bunk with. I lived through the Katrina evacuation from New Orleans to Houston and even up to Dallas. The once nice stores, the churches that lent their buildings, the people that opened up their homes were nearly all regretful at the end. Those good liberals turned conservative real quick, and that's how a strong Texas was born.
Montana hasn't had any real growing pains yet, and certainly none in the past 50 years or so that would help define her. I think the liberals here don't really understand what they are doing out of lack of experience. They too will be turned conservative once their ideas become reality and they are forced to experience consequences of their actions. There's a flaw in your drawing conclusions.

Wait till we get a bunch of refugees, since we have a progressive mayor and all, I am sure Obama will see that as an ally and a good place to put some widows and orphans.
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+12614) 7 years ago
I will never be conservative. Ever. I believe in too many liberal things--like compassion and kindness--and will never, ever, put money over morality. I am not afraid of brown people or people with different superstitious beliefs. I'm not afraid of you. I think you are a simple-minded twit who is scared that his white male privilege might be taken away.

New topic.
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2416) 7 years ago
Look out!! Crazy lady coming thru.

I wish you weren't the type that publically claims to be an atheist, or claims that the pill and abortions have set you free from your male captors. All of us would have been better off if you chose a good guy and had a 50yr marriage, ending in success and happiness. However it would seem that the experiences of life have overwhelmed you amoretti.

Women are great, but feminist are quitters, blamers and losers. Conservative values are not as you claim, bigoted and hateful, they are hard and require discipline and fairness.

And for all your "anti white man crap" I don't see you living in a nation which has laws set up by anyone else. The judicial system set up here by these "white men" that you hate, is as fair as it comes lady. And that's why you don't live in Zimbabwe or Saudi Arabia. Your a loser and I am sorry for you. But don't perpetuate your mistaken ideals onto the next generation.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6171) 7 years ago
I believe Amorette has been married to the same white guy for quite a long time.
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Posted by Bridgier (+9508) 7 years ago
DOES NOT COMPUTE IS UNPOSSIBLE ABORT ABORT ABORT
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2416) 7 years ago
She must be proud of him, it shows in her attitude towards men, and the relationship statues on FB.
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr. (+15490) 7 years ago
Look out!! Crazy lady coming thru.

I wish you weren't the type that publically claims to be an atheist, or claims that the pill and abortions have set you free from your male captors. All of us would have been better off if you chose a good guy and had a 50yr marriage, ending in success and happiness. However it would seem that the experiences of life have overwhelmed you amoretti.

Women are great, but feminist are quitters, blamers and losers. Conservative values are not as you claim, bigoted and hateful, they are hard and require discipline and fairness. 

And for all your "anti white man crap" I don't see you living in a nation which has laws set up by anyone else. The judicial system set up here by these "white men" that you hate, is as fair as it comes lady. And that's why you don't live in Zimbabwe or Saudi Arabia. Your a loser and I am sorry for you. But don't perpetuate your mistaken ideals onto the next generation.


She must be proud of him, it shows in her attitude towards men, and the relationship statues on FB.


Your butt-hurt is herby acknowledged:

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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2416) 7 years ago
I don't see your point, I am right, what is this hubby # 2 or 3. A liberal women cant please a man on a consistent basis throughout life. That's a lesson bill and Hillary taught us.

And if she has a white man then her words say multitudes about him. So save the gottcha moment dick, cause you got nothing. She hasn't chimed in.
And why would a women so vehemently be pro abortion, how about that, possibly to justify her actions or the actions of those she knows.
Preaching this white man needs to be killed crap leads me to think she has been in an abusive relationship somewhere long the line. Or maybe she couldn't get the one she wanted because of previous indiscretions that he couldn't see beyond.

But you don't got me, I pegged her from day one a disgruntled old hag that feels cheated and needs to point a finger.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5100) 7 years ago
Brandy wrote:
She must be proud of him, it shows in her attitude towards men, and the relationship statues on FB


What the duck is a "relationship statue," you illiterate, mouth-breathing hick???
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2416) 7 years ago
Middle finger
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Posted by Bob L. (+5100) 7 years ago
Reply to Bob L. (#363306)
This post was removed 7 years ago.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5100) 7 years ago
This post was removed 7 years ago.
It was removed because it was a duplicate.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5100) 7 years ago
Reply to Bob L. (#363309)
Bob L. wrote:
I will bet any amount of $$$$$ that Amorette has been married fewer times than your hero Donald Trump.

Wanna take the bet, Brandy, you ignorant bumpkin??????


REPLY HERE
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2416) 7 years ago
I would have expected something more like honkey, Nazi or cracker etc. from you there BOB. But mouth breathing hick, holy cow that's classic, you atheist. Gambling with judgment day.
The mere thought that Americans are pulling together and drawing a line in the sand over Syrian terrorist being brought here, gets you folks mad. It pisses you off even more that the line is being drawn with the good book.
Give up Baby killing commie trash liberals.
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2416) 7 years ago
That was a question bob, and I don't care if its her high school sweet heart and she white to the wedding, which is what I would bet on if you dare. but how about the rest.

she is a baby killing advocate as are you. And she hates white men, and says it publically, so she has hate in her heart. whether its from multiple marriages or multiple abortions or abusive relationships, I don't know , but something got this women mad and disgruntled as well as emotionally charged when white and abortions are brought up. If she's been with only her one hubby great, what about the abuse or abortions, something emotional goes off in this women or else she would not say that abortions set women free from their captures.
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr. (+15490) 7 years ago
Yup, I'd vote you off this island. Steve and Amorette are pillars of the community and class act people. Such libelous personal attacks are unwarantted. You should stop before you get "unplugged".

[Edited by Richard Bonine, Jr. (12/11/2015 10:25:15 PM)]
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2416) 7 years ago
Touchy subject, always is. Don't dish it out if you cant take it. Don't push abortions in a public form and call me a white privileged devil, and then I wont call you on your crap. Which I did. And I can assure you, respect for her, is not community wide.


I work for a living, and stand for the same things trump stands for, so you call names, don't talk to me about liable action, attack dog. You people attack forum visitors based upon their differences of opinion all the time, all without having a true policy of your own, other than "get whitey". especially amoretti.
But your versions of what your policies breed are ill thought. Islamic extremist will swallow your ranks like nothing. The caliphate is coming, and the freedoms that women like Amoretti held to be self evident, such as choosing your mate will seem distant. Sharia law wont allow the pill, or abortions, so your next master will not be as nice as the last. I feel sorry for the generations of young Christians coming up today, a battle is brewing and freedom isn't free.

However I am not her punching bag, she can take her white devil hate privledge up with some one else.
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2416) 7 years ago
And she and you started the name calling

So don't give me that class act sarcasm. Take what you give for a change. Obama is a Muslim and you are a brown shirt!

And as the post originally started, the origins of Fascism are growing new roots the more you atheist speak. Ill give you a few days to mull over what fair play is.
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr. (+15490) 7 years ago
You people attack forum visitors based upon their differences of opinion all the time, all without having a true policy of your own, other than "get whitey".


Yes, I challenge IDEAS and BELIEFS that are rooted in things that are not real. It's how society progresses. I make a conscientious effort NOT to attack people. Those that know me personally know that I am one the nicest and politest people you would ever have the pleasure of meeting. 

I have policies of my own and most everyone understands what my views are on most issues.
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2416) 7 years ago
That's odd, since most of the people that meet me say I am a nice guy as well.
Minus a few I have differences with, usually liberal progressives. But if you think people aren't about to see your path of progress as an impediment your crazy. Americans will "reach for the right" just like France, Germany and more. Your policies are not mine, ill leave it at that.
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Posted by Hannah Nash (+2541) 7 years ago
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Posted by Oddjob (+188) 7 years ago
Reply to MilesCity.com Webmaster (#363285)
MilesCity.com Webmaster wrote:
Oddjob wrote:
This is exactly what I meant about propaganda. What defines the neo-Nazis as right wing?


Very first sentence of the Wikipedia article on Neo-Nazism.


Sorry to see that this thread has gone to a pile of ad hominem crap, like it always does but two more things:

Wikipedia is not a reference. Just ask anybody at milescity.com.

Hal has dug into it enough to come up with the idea that political ideology cannot be shown as a line but will converge in the extremes. It's a better reference than most, but it still is not a perfect graphical representation because there is no "center" in reality and no point on the circle that is not a range.

Since the Left has been writing history for the last 200 years, it's no surprise that they wish to control what people are to know. The historians/social scientists/political science Leftists developed and promote the idea that if there is an ideology on the Left, there has to be an analog on the Right. That's BS and is just smoke and mirrors to cover for unacceptable behavior from one group. The "We are bad, but...but..they are worse!!" mentality.

If an idea is born in one camp then taken to extremes, it's still in the same camp. Read the article again. The author admits that Fascism has its roots in Socialism and it is just as I described it to be. Socialists with baseball bats.

The World Class Marxist/Communist professors I experienced were proud of the fact they had achieved the status of keepers of the "truth" and would openly brag about how the Left controls global political thought. Since their only mission in life was to churn out more Leftists, why wouldn't they?
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2416) 7 years ago
Odd job wrote

The World Class Marxist/Communist professors I experienced were proud of the fact they had achieved the status of keepers of the "truth" and would openly brag about how the Left controls global political thought.

I agree, and that's why I say that they can not be allowed to dictate the narrative any longer.

If nothing else comes from trump, it will be that the control narrative is shot down. So I say this thread is not shot. I truly hope that people like amoretti and myself can get along and find common ground one day. I see stories of enemies at war reconciling each day.

However I will not meet her, or any liberal on their ground. So please accept that if I say something like someone is bleeding out of their where ever, it is to let them know F - PC. Done with it. She hates white men, and until she changes, this white man hates her back.

And if anyone blames the second amendment for murder, their nuts Guns rust if people don't use and care for them. A gun never hurt anything by its self. The only reason people like amoretti want gun laws, is to disarm the white men that she hates, so she "and her liberal progressives" can have a better chance of killing them. She's a racist.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6171) 7 years ago
Hannah,

He's a secret Muslim. Shhhhhh.
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Posted by Brandy Allen (-2416) 7 years ago
She's with the weather underground, tell the authorities. See something say something.
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Posted by CarlosSantos (+877) 7 years ago
Once again, a civil, intelligent conversation was completely derailed by Brandy.

Thank you for contributing nothing of value... Yet again.
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