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Posted by schmitzdj (+197) 7 years ago
I've been hearing stories of Rob Shipley's arrest etc. Does anyone know the facts?
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11447) 7 years ago
Full story on the front page of the Tuesday Star.
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Posted by Dona Stebbins (+824) 7 years ago
It is not in the online edition. A brief summary, please?
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11447) 7 years ago
A brief summary is not possible. I will remind the person who updates the website that it needs to be updated. It was such a mad house in there the last few days that the website got forgotten in order to get that huge paper out on time.
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Posted by Tim Wagoner (+765) 7 years ago
You are right. that paper was huge. Thought I was buying a Billings Gazette by the size of it.
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Posted by Oddjob (+187) 7 years ago
"Shipley did ask Colombik if the city has ever had a signed complaint about his property in the last seven years.

Colombik said he has had people talk to him about the property, but no one has signed a complaint."

So, all these years of pissing and moaning and moaning and pissing and nobody (ever?) filed a complaint?

Who finally decided to man-up?

Grenz?
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Posted by Tucker Bolton (+3637) 7 years ago
The "no complaint filed" statement is suspect, to say the least. This was not the first time R S has been to court for this same complaint.
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Posted by David Schott (+16502) 7 years ago
"Shipley did ask Colombik if the city has ever had a signed complaint about his property in the last seven years."

I'm guessing "signed complaints" in public nuisance matters are few and far between unless the person signing the complaint is a law enforcement officer, code enforcement officer/inspector, or city official such as the mayor.

It's probably understood that neighbors are reluctant to go "on the record" in complaint against their neighbor. They do have to keep living next to the person. This is why we have well-written ordinances/code and paid professionals to enforce them -- "It's not personal, it's my job."
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11447) 7 years ago
People were probably afraid for various reasons to sign a complaint.
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Posted by Oddjob (+187) 7 years ago
A "signed complaint" is pretty much the same everywhere so it's meaning here is not ambiguous. Mr. Colombik was sworn, so I assume this is a truthful statement.

For those of us who live in the ghetto world, without the benefit of HOA's with gestapo "architectural committees" to do our dirty work for us ("It's not personal, it's my job."), signing a complaint is our only recourse against unacceptable behavior. The cops here (and most places) won't lift a finger for property/noise disputes unless they have one, and they have no problem telling you that. (Yes, I have signed several, when they were necessary.)

And yes, you can expect to get your tires slashed, your car keyed or some other CS action that cowards are so good at, after signing a complaint on them. You just have to make sure that doesn't happen or that it won't ever happen again. That's the "man-up" part of ghetto social engineering.

So, nobody answered my question.

Was Butch Grenz the guy who finally had the guts to drag Ship into court over the trash heap he's been occupying for 30 years? I'm just trying to get a cheap thrill out of the possible irony here.
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Posted by David Schott (+16502) 7 years ago
"On June 10 he was cited because he had made “no effort” to clean up the yard, Colombik said."

There's your signed complaint. Just like the last time you received a traffic citation and the officer issuing it signed it.

If you're looking for someone to blame, "Oddjob", his first name starts with 'R' and his last name starts with 'S'.
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Posted by Oddjob (+187) 7 years ago
"There's your signed complaint. Just like the last time you received a traffic citation and the officer issuing it signed it."

If it's that easy, why wasn't this handled 30 years ago? Or 3 years ago? Maybe the ex-Mayor can tell why his efforts never had Ship begging a Judge to stay out of jail?
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Posted by David Schott (+16502) 7 years ago
"If it's that easy, why wasn't this handled 30 years ago?"

30 years ago?

As for Mayor Whalen not doing anything you seem misinformed. Shipley even attempted to sue Whalen in federal court he was so upset about Whalen's attempts to enforce Miles City's public nuisance ordinance.

Here is some interesting commentary from the Billings Gazette website:

"•I ask the moderators of the BILGAZ to adhere to justice. I am no nut case. I have a case in the Billings federal court and before the Montana Supreme Court......because ten (10) lawyers LIE all the time.......Deputy City Attorney Jeff Noble, Miles City......Browning, Kalecycz, Berry, Hoven, Adams, Etchart of BKBH in Helena and especially the WORST EVER....Michele Braukmann of Billings.

Carolyn S. Ostby and Richard F. Cebull are individually and collectively ANGELS of Father GOD Almighty...and Braukmann...has the guts...and the indecency to LIE to them?

You good people cannot prove me wrong..call me...406-234-2477...email [email protected] can and will FOREVER submit to you only 2000% truth.

Because these never ending packs of lies about me and my Miles City Shipley family legacy...a week ago I filed a $5,300,000 lawsuit against Miles City Star and Dan Killoy and Elaine Forman for libel and violations of Civil Rights. Feds will be in this soon.

December 22, 2012 12:38 pm on Lawsuit alleges mistreatment by Billings police officer

•Mayor criminal actions ,Miles City plus judicial tyranny by ten (10) LYING lawyers, BNSF and City of Miles City have been sued for $7,132, 000.
GOOGLE " Rob Shipley v whalen, City, BNSF" .GIGANTIC.....****federal ***** problem......never ever ever OWNED the land where BNSF conspired with Miles City, mayor, joe whalen, to tear down my Sojourner Pawn and Bible book store.........duh?

Michele Braukmann in this case *is* LYING for the City of Billings.....she .is a LIAR.

Because of her and the six lawyers of BKBH in Helena...the Montana Supreme Court is being impeached.......because LYING lawyers have driven me insane.

MMIA paid Braukmann over $35,xxx to LIE defending Whalen.......a Montana mayor who drove City of Miles City vehicles on occasion..........never having a driver license.

Michele Braukmann should be in jail and her law license out the window forever.
GOOGLE "BNSF v Rob Shipley" appeal.

How could BNSF seek lease money? NEVER EVER EVER owned the land.

December 22, 2012 12:24 pm on Lawsuit alleges mistreatment by Billings police officer

•Absolute 2000% TRUTH. Michele Braukmann is a LIAR. She has LIED to * most* wonderful federal judge CAROLYN S. OSTBY ; LIED repeatedly into the Record of the federal court. Braukman defends former Miles City mayor, mayor for three (3) years without a driver license (none for 8 years) (GOOGLE "Rob Shipley v Joe Whalen").I, the plaintiff, have December 18, 2012, Certified letter to Montana House of Representatives requesting Articles of Impeachment against 16th Court Judge DAY, Miles City, and each of seven (7) justices of Montana Supreme Court.
I was *acquitted* by city court of a misdemeanor. Whalen had me RE-cited, blatantly, egregiously VIOLATING DOUBLE JEOPARDY law. A Montana mayor, so dumb, with no driver license, could NOT, could NOT, get a $20.00 loan from a Montana pawnshop.
See Miles City Star 12-3-2009.
MMIA paid Braukmann over $35,xxx to LIE.....visciously LIE to Judge OSTBY.
Also suing her and senior LYING partners of Moulton Bellingham.
2000% truth

December 22, 2012 12:08 pm on Lawsuit alleges mistreatment by Billings police officer"


http://billingsgazette.co...%20cowboy/
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Posted by David Schott (+16502) 7 years ago
Oddjob wrote:
"That's the "man-up" part of..."

Says the little lady who hides behind a cloak of anonymity on these forums.
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11447) 7 years ago
This is a tragic case, the case of a very intelligent man whose illness has sadly destroyed his life. I wish people would stop sounding as if this made them happy.
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Posted by Frank Hardy (+1486) 7 years ago
He's not destroyed. He's just changed. He's eccentric. He's still an extremely intelligent man filled with passion. Would I want him mad at me? No. Would I buy the house next door to him? No. Would I share a cup of coffee with him? Absolutely.

It's a big world, with lots of room.

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Posted by Amorette F. Allison (+1910) 7 years ago
Maybe damaged would be a better word. I can enjoy his company but I can still mourn how off-track his life had become.
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Posted by cj sampsel (+484) 7 years ago
While visiting my parents this last September I drove by Ships on the way to the golf course. Still the same awe inspiring amount of "stuff." But, he was standing outsidethe door feeding scrap wood into a burn barrel that had to have been less than a foot from that
wood shingled building. If his place caught fire with who knows what
toxic junk, besides the vehicles, around half of Miles City would probably have to be evacuated.
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Posted by lucym (+34) 7 years ago
has he made any progress cleaning up the crap?
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Posted by Dan Mowry (+1431) 7 years ago
Judging by the web cam it looks to be rotten weather for any big cleanup.
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Posted by Kelly (+2618) 7 years ago
It has been over 30 days. Has any progress been made?
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Posted by lucym (+34) 7 years ago
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Posted by NDJ (+138) 7 years ago
I think he is trying.There has been improvement.I do not see people here clamboring over each other to go help him.Ok,why help him.What about clean up the neighborhood.It seems Ship has collected enough [email protected],I mean sh!t,wait I meant accumulation that it is hard for him to get rid of it.I know he does not want to part with anything,but it the right person talked to him he might be willing to,with a little planning ahead take some help on cleaning up his property around his house. I worked with a church onetime,they had people coming in a few times a week.They,I don`t know what they did but they got fed in the end.In one day,I,in cooperation with the Minister,transformed this bunch in to what is still known as My Homeless Army. There was heavy equipment for support but we cleaned up and and organized 11 acres in one day.When these guys got done and the bus picked them up they were scratched and bloody with their clothes torn and they were beat.I held up the bus and went in to the office and said I need some money,I got what I asked for immediately.I would have taken it out of my pay had they not.The bus took them back to the church for their feed.Some applied for and were given employment.They came for a free meal,they told me,several of them after that day,that was the best day they had ever had.As far as I know the Church still does this but we decided we were a commercial bussiness and it was better that they do deeds for individuals who need help and so I had to decline their requests to come once a week.I paid them $5 tip apiece if I remember right as they were working for the church and I could not pay them.Everyone of them did a days work except one.He stood clearly out of the way and was certainly in charge.I got him a dollar in his pocket even though he was in charge.
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Posted by redmondroughneck (+80) 7 years ago
What you don't understand is that Rob does not consider his stuff junk or crap. He considers his yard an artistic celebration of his life and a tourist attraction for Miles City.
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Posted by NDJ (+138) 7 years ago
I understand that fully.I mentioned that I am sure he does not want to get rid of anything.You might go in to someone`s house and they have a picasso on the wall and think that should be taken down and a boar`s head that you stalked and killed in Africa,a magnificent trophy,and had stuffed put in it`s place.A friend of mine told me about a car that his dad had.He helped move it many times,through the sale of three houses even over the years.This guy`s dad was going to restore the car,it was so important to him,and it was a neat car by the way,but he had proposed to his wife in that car.When he died,this guy`s mom,one of the first things she said was get that car out of here.It got scrapped.I gave a piece of jewelry to a woman who would not be without it even in the shower, who had it stolen as she lay dying at age 39.That would mean a lot to me if I had it,but it probably got traded for some meth.So just because you think something has no worth,that is just your opinion,not that of the person who places value on it.I also said Shipley`s yard is full of sh!t and [email protected],give me a break.It is Sunday and I was just preaching a bit.
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Posted by Bridgier (+8985) 7 years ago
Every NDJ post sounds better if you put a little honky-tonk behind it.
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Posted by Bobby Boatley (+65) 7 years ago
You ever thought Mr. one Bobby Boately is living exactly as he wants. Your Humble Servant, Bobby B. God Bless you all!!!!!
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Posted by NDJ (+138) 7 years ago
Feel free to sing along Bridgier.
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Posted by Bobby Boatley (+65) 7 years ago
I use to be known as only a World Class Poker Player. Now, I am admired for my tremendous intellect!!!!!
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Posted by David Schott (+16502) 7 years ago
You need to use ellipses, "Bobby". Lots of them.
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Posted by Bobby Boatley (+65) 7 years ago
Esteemed David Schott: As a Microsoft multi millionare you have my tremoundous respestect.......... As money is my God...... You David be as successful as I be in life..... I have mades money hand over fist... By my brains, charms and wits David..... We should get together for some coolade David since I have tremenououds respecst for you............ Your Rich!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!............
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Posted by David Schott (+16502) 7 years ago


That's great -- both for the use of ellipses and for knowing your Ship. Throw in spaces, though, so you don't whack out the website formatting.
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Posted by Kelly (+2618) 7 years ago
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+9973) 7 years ago
Miles City Star wrote:
Mayor Butch Grenz requested a temporary order of protection against Rob Shipley in 16th Judicial District Court Monday morning.

Also Monday morning, a trustee’s sale of property belonging to Rob Shipley that was scheduled for this morning has been postponed until Jan. 28.

No reason was given for the postponement.

Grenz cites stalking as the reason for his request.

“Mr. Shipley has caused me substantial emotional distress by harassing, threatening and intimidating me through electronic communication. ...” Grenz wrote on the document.

He included a few e-mails from Shipley in the petition for the order of protection. Some of the e-mails refer to public nuisance proceedings by the city against Shipley on his residence at 603 S. Fourth St. The home was also the focus of a public nuisance charge, for which Shipley was found guilty. He was given until Dec. 26 to clean up the property.

In the November, 2013 trial, Shipley was sentenced to 90 days in jail and fined $500. The jail time and $300 was suspended if he cleaned the yard.

Grenz requested Monday that Shipley be ordered to stay at least 1,500 feet from him, his home, City Hall and his businesses.

Grenz also requested Shipley get a psychological evaluation.

The order was signed by City Attorney Dan Rice on Jan. 8.

As for the trustee’s sale, Recontrust Company postponed today’s sale without stating a reason. The company handles the foreclosure process for lenders, and was handling the case for Bank of America.

The sale was to take place at the Custer County Courthouse. The sale was originally set for Nov. 30, 2012, but that date also was postponed.

According to a legal notice that appeared in the Miles City Star in 2012, the sale is the result of a default in the payment of a monthly installment that became due April 1 of 2012.

The notice said the lender is owed the unpaid principal balance of $65,051.29, along with the 7.75 percent interest, plus other fees and charges.

http://www.milescitystar....st-citizen
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Posted by lucym (+34) 7 years ago
very interesting but has he made any progress cleaning up his yeard?
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Posted by Nancy W. (+117) 7 years ago
Can anyone post a pic of the property. I haven't done a drive by for a few years.
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2310) 7 years ago
I wonder if NDJ is aware that they should place a -space- between each complete sentence.It is very aggravating to read their stupidity without them.

Anyhow, just popping in to say how much I love how ol' Butchy has to keep Rob away from him with a restraining order. Seems Rob is just a TERRIBLE nuisance to this community and our Mayor.

Sidenote: Kinda interesting that the Mayor can receive a restraining order against someone for such petty stuff, yet a close friend of mine cannot against a literally bat-poop insane woman who chooses to stalk her frequently, and has continued to do so for well over two years. Oh well, tax dollars well spent. Now then, who wants the best ribs in town?
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr. (+14724) 7 years ago
I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation, Josh. I am NO fan of the mayor, but I think his actions are prudent. He has a responsibility to protect himself, his family, his businesses, and those at City Hall. Basically, because Butch has the same schedule as Amtrak (don't know where he is, when) Mr. Shipley legally has to stay clear of downtown. This is a good thing.
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2310) 7 years ago
Eh, I could honestly care less where Rob is. However it isn't as hard to find Mr. Mayor as one would think. Look for his old truck, and you got 'em. Or, as one of my more distant family members did... drive your truck through the "sheetter" at the Boardwalk while drunk at 3am-ish. That'll find him.
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Posted by Just Me (+742) 7 years ago
His place was supposed to go up for auction today. Has anybody heard if it did or not?
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Posted by Kelly (+2618) 7 years ago
Article in the paper tonight said the sale was cancelled and no new date was given.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6170) 7 years ago
Whoa. Was his property seized?
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Posted by lucym (+34) 7 years ago
Has he cleaned up his property?
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Posted by David Schott (+16502) 7 years ago
@Wendy -- from the news clipping Larry posted above:

"According to a legal notice that appeared in the Miles City Star in 2012, the sale is the result of a default in the payment of a monthly installment that became due April 1 of 2012."
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Posted by nativemc (+893) 7 years ago
Same old Same old for Robby. 24th of December was his deadline for cleaning up. Still not done, mayor gets order of protection, Robbie continues to wander around town. He faces no consequences. I understand the man has problems but, he just keeps thumbing his nose at Miles City.
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Posted by lucym (+34) 7 years ago
Its sad that the city doesn't seem to be able to do their job.!
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Posted by David Schott (+16502) 7 years ago
Run for mayor, "lucym", and show 'em how it's done.
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Posted by Oddjob (+187) 7 years ago
Just wondering....

If the bank now owns the property enough to try and sell it, what's Rob's incentive to clean it up? Seems to me that proceeding to throw him in jail on the clean up order may pose some interesting legal issues over who is now responsible for the condition of the property.

I'm guessing a lawsuit may be why the bank canceled the sale?

Regardless, I predict more lawsuits for the Mayor and the City before the mess is gone. That is, if Rob has any dough left.
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Posted by lucym (+34) 7 years ago
lol

[This message has been edited by lucym (1/30/2014)]
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Posted by lucym (+34) 7 years ago
if the bank owns the property he should be evicted soon....
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Posted by David Schott (+16502) 7 years ago
More news about this in today's Miles City Star:

Public nuisance appeal dismissed
Published: Fri, 02/14/2014 - 2:05pm
Section: Top Local News
By Elaine Forman

Local resident Rob Shipley’s appeal of a public nuisance conviction was dismissed because Shipley failed to appear at the hearing Thursday morning, according to a 16th District Court order.

District Judge Michael Hayworth made the order.

Judge Leroy Not Afraid had presided at the Nov. 25 City Court trial and found Shipley guilty of maintaining a public nuisance for the condition of his property at 603 S. Fourth St.

Hayworth’s dismissal order stated, “In light of the Defendant’s choice to fail to appear for Arraignment on the appeal the Defendant initiated, the appeal cannot proceed ... the Defendant’s appeal is dismissed.”

It went on to say the judgement of the City Court is reinstated and that Shipley must comply with the City Court judgement.

Not Afraid had sentenced Shipley to 90 days in jail and fined him $500. The judge suspended the jail time and $300 on the condition Shipley clean his yard in 30 days.

Not Afraid told Shipley if he failed to do so, or failed to do it according to Mayor Butch Grenz’s satisfaction, “I guarantee you, Mr. Shipley, that you will serve jail time and you will be billed at that time (for the city crews doing the work), if you are found in violation.”

Shipley had paid the $200.

Judge Not Afraid could not be reached for comment on the penalty phase before presstime.

Miles City Deputy Attorney Jeff Noble prosecuted the case. Shipley represented himself.

A trustee’s sale on the property, unrelated to the case, has been postponed several times.
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Posted by JWA (+31) 7 years ago
What's that old saying about a man representing himself has a fool for a client? Or maybe he bills himself and claims a tax deduction?
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6170) 7 years ago
He would be a fool. Atty fees in a case like this would not be deductible.
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Posted by JWA (+31) 7 years ago
Indeed. I was being sarcastic. He is his own worst enemy. Hope nothing bad happens.
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Posted by Suella Hughes (+14) 7 years ago
Everyone should leave the poor man alone and call hoarders buried alive if it's such a problem .. Who knew a mans yard could cause so much talk
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Posted by Bobby Boatley (+65) 7 years ago
Why thank you Miss Suella..... It igreat to see you don't hold garudes since I was the one who who David kicked out of the Olive............ I will be down at the bank Tuesday looking for refancing......Hope you put a good word into the big guy there since you recognizre that I am a poor man very a financial wizard.... Thanks again most leanred lady!!!!!
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2310) 7 years ago
If ol' robby boy can't keep his Golf Course front property clean so it doesn't look like a dump, he should be forced to do something about it one way or another. Hell, if I was his next door neighbor I would have issues with it and probably take a bobcat to his lawn. I don't want to look out my window and see a garbage dump next to my house.
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Posted by Suella Hughes (+14) 7 years ago
no I don't hold grudges life is too short .. we all have our faults no one is perfect, so I don't know why everyone pretends to be ... "poor" in wrong context ..
Boatley is a smart guy he knows his limitations i am sure. I hope the case works out for Shipley and everyone else.

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Posted by mcnew (+24) 6 years ago


Same old Same old for Robby. 24th of December was his deadline for cleaning up. Still not done, mayor gets order of protection, Robbie continues to wander around town. He faces no consequences. I understand the man has problems but, he just keeps thumbing his nose at Miles City



Nothing has changed?!?!
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Posted by cubby (+2605) 6 years ago
Pretty sad that the city is scared of him. He is above the law I guess
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Posted by Don Birkholz (+1248) 6 years ago
Rob spent a day in Broadus' (Powder River County) jail recently. Something to do with a traffic violation or two.
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Posted by mcnew (+24) 6 years ago
Yet his yard is still mess and the city is doing nothing!!! It is such a joke and this town is laughing about how its being handled by our mayor and city officials.
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Posted by nativemc (+893) 6 years ago
To Shipley's credit he did get the garage doors closed and got a new lawn ornament, White Cadillac Limo.
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Posted by Cory Cutting (+1277) 6 years ago
I hate to add to this craziness, but having been home this weekend and my mother's house being across the street, I have to say that mess is crazy! It's 10X as bad as it was when I was home 2 years ago. Something must be done!!

On another note, I was a little saddened by the condition of many many yards throughout town as I drove around.

Pride in the look of the back areas of the city seems hit or miss. The up-front places are beautiful as always!
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Posted by redmondroughneck (+80) 6 years ago
Drive around the block and look at the Mayor's used car lot and then you will see why Shipley doesn't do anything.
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Posted by jp7 (+177) 6 years ago
ya all talk about Shipley....what about Stacy,,, at the end of Jackson ST, That is so bad over there,unreal and he gets away with it also
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Posted by cubby (+2605) 6 years ago
He is out of city limits though not next to the golf coarse.
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