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Posted by Arron (+103) 9 years ago
It had to happen. Well it did happen. Like right now because I did it.I am not going to run Larry for President or anything but.......Comparisons,comments? I refuse to take sides on this one.. o O (I will vote for you Larry , NEXT time I promise)
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+18254) 9 years ago


......and there we have a snapshot of our electorate.
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Posted by Arron (+103) 9 years ago
The US Government is taking over a slice of private business that is approximately 16% of the economy.The way they did it has been determined a tax so it may be legal.Doesn`t seem to matter if it is legal or not,they are doing it.It is already failing and it is called Obamacare.Now that Precious`s plan is failing the Republicans are being somehow blamed for Obamadoggle.If Obama would take responsibility for Obamacare maybe something could get fixed.I do not know how to put Obama and Trabant together but they belong together in the same sentence.I do not understand why Obama is blameless. Maybe it is because he wears a suit pretty good and golfs all of the time and the news media says he does not know what is going on? It is called Obamacare.It is in the news.He should know about it.Maybe someone should tell him about it.The democrats are too busy deserting him to tell him about it.If you have ever been stranded in a foreign country,there is NOTHING like being back on US soil.NOTHING.If you think there is a better place on earth I suggest you go there.I was stranded in a foreign country with everything I had stolen including my clothes after I was assaulted with a weapon.It was kind of scary.I had to name drop to get through it.I was pretty lucky.Very lucky.But if you are going to claim US soil as your own you have to take a stand on things you believe in.This can maybe be fixed but at the moment it looks like everyone is running out of a cathouse that caught fire on Sunday morning where you stopped in for coffee and accidently saw your wife working.
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4462) 9 years ago
You know we're certifiable when we turned down the Medicaid expansion. It can only be out of concern for the welfare of taxpayers in densely populated states that we refuse ten dollars of return on every dollar of federal taxes we contribute. By God, we're going to teach our face a lesson.

And Arron, you don't understand how to spell your own name or form a coherent sentence, let alone the complexity of healthcare. Before you STFU, you should apologize to the English language for your continued abuse.

[This message has been edited by Buck Showalter (11/13/2013)]
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10021) 9 years ago
Arron wrote:
The US Government is taking over a slice of private business

And who exactly is this "US Government" causing so much strife? Do you see them hanging out on the corner in black coats or something? Point them out to me please, so I may recognize them.

You also never indicated what the " Genuine Crisis " occurring to you, personally, from "ObamaCare" is. Which I'm still calling you on your B.S.
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Posted by Bob Netherton II (+1906) 9 years ago
"You also never indicated what the " Genuine Crisis " occurring to you, personally, from "ObamaCare" is. Which I'm still calling you on your B.S."

He's probably an insurance salesman. Or perhaps he's someone getting screwed because our idiot state representatives opted out of Medicaid expansion.
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10021) 9 years ago
You might be on to something there.

If "Tomm" is who I think he is, then he may be "Tom M." -- who used to be an insurance agent in Miles City. I think I tried to get my first car insurance from him, and was denied because State Farm wouldn't insure youngsters like myself.

So much for "fair and balanced", and above the board in this whole debate.

Which then begs the question, Mr. "Arron", have you ever worked as an insurance agent or salesman as well?
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Posted by Arron (+103) 9 years ago
As Buck Showalter pointed out. Why should we turn down $10 for every dollar that we pay in.SIMPLY PUT:those dollars are from someone else paying your bills.
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4462) 9 years ago
Arron's heart bleeds for the poor liberal states who would foot the bill for Montanans.

Oh, and Arron, this is why it's so much more complicated than you will ever understand... That ten dollar investment today will save hundreds or thousands down the road. Healthcare prices are excessive because costs for those who don't/can't pay (the uninsured) are passed to those who can. Additionally, a visit to the clinic to keep whatever brain disease that causes your stupid under control is much, much cheaper than the emergency room visit for an acute episode of uncontrolled stupid. Healthcare providers already understand this to be true and you will continue to see the expansion of this model of care, with or without new legislation.

[This message has been edited by Buck Showalter (11/14/2013)]
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Posted by Tomm (-1031) 9 years ago
So, Mr. webmaster, you can not answer my simple question. Just continue with the far left talking points.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6167) 9 years ago
To Tomm,

One item that would make a policy inadequate under the ACA is not covering a pre-existing condition from the beginning of the policy coverage. For many that meant waiting as long as a year before their policy would cover their health expenses. Anything that arose from that pre-existing condition during that year would not be covered. And that's assuming that the person could get any insurance at all given a pre-existing condition.

This means a lot of folks who wouldn't have coverage now will. C'est bon, non?
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Posted by Tomm (-1031) 9 years ago
I agree with that, and in fact insurance companies also agreed and changed to accept pre existing cond. All of the common sense issues could have been covered with individual laws. There is no need to completely change from a free market system to a government controlled social medical system.
I have just watched Obama stumble through a news conf. and admitting that he did not know what was going on. This guy is WAY over is head.
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Posted by David Schott (+18229) 9 years ago
"There is no need to completely change from a free market system to a government controlled social medical system."



Apparently Obama isn't the only one who is "in over his head". Or out of his head.
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Posted by Arron (+103) 9 years ago
We had a horse on the farm named Buck.A children`s horse.

If you take money from someone else does that make it yours?And if that money that you take from someone else is now yours then why not take all of that person`s money and make it your own.Government employees should be the first target because that is our money anyway,isn`t it.If you have trouble doing this then get a mob together and form a legislature that says that the people that have money have to give it to you.I think there is something about a nation formed over something like that happening.Buck,I think you should open your home to people that need stuff that you have.I do it Buck.But I do it willingly.Doubtful that will ever happen with you.This just in on local radio news.27,000 have been signed up for Obamacare,7 million will lose health coverage.Don`t know if you can believe the news media but those are the numbers they just gave.
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Posted by Tomm (-1031) 9 years ago
David, not a nice thing to say about the webmaster
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Posted by Arron (+103) 9 years ago
A minus -7 million to you Buck.Yes,a double minus for you.Maybe someone will pay for your double minus -7 million for you Buck.It`s OK,it isn`t your money and you won`t have to pay.I doubt if you can golf but you could you claim ignorance and then also say you didn`t know what was going on so your peers will understand.
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10021) 9 years ago
Tomm wrote:
So, Mr. webmaster, you can not answer my simple question. Just continue with the far left talking points.

I replied, asking why "some people" (such as "you") are parroting Fox News talking points instead of using their own brain cells to intelligently discuss issues.

You specifically asked, "Dear webmaster....please tell me what were the criteria used to label a policy as not acceptable."

I have no idea why you would be asking me that (well, except for what I just inquired about), or be concerned should I not answer. You, which you did not disclose earlier, are the insurance agent. Not me. I don't care to offer a response to that specific question, because (A) I'm not qualified to answer, and (B) you are feeding me a loaded question.

I cannot get into the "minds" of the corporations that created the policies, except to imagine the only thing in them is to make the most amount of money possible - with no #2 concept.
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Posted by David Schott (+18229) 9 years ago
Larry, I think you're giving Tom too much credit. As evidence, I cite five words: "government controlled social medical system"
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Posted by Tomm (-1031) 9 years ago
still no answer to a very simple question. I have no idea how I can asked so even you can understand it.

yes I was an insurance agent, and NO you did not get refused because you were too young. that would be age discrimination. you probably had a bad driving record.

I get so sick of far left responses to simple questions just because they have not been given the talking points.
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Posted by Arron (+103) 9 years ago
I think you can field this one Larry. I mean look,you own a website that that brings diversity together.
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Posted by David Schott (+18229) 9 years ago
I'm not sure what your question is exactly, Tom. Is it, how was "Minimum Essential Coverage" determined? Apparently the Department of Health and Human Services established it.

It's not hard to search this out on the Internet if you're really interested. Here's one site:

understandinghealthreform.com: What is minimum essential coverage?

What is minimum essential coverage?

Large employers must offer full time employees (and their dependents) an opportunity to enroll in minimum essential coverage under an employer-sponsored plan.

There are two tests that apply here:

*Minimum value, which evaluates the comprehensiveness of the plan

*Affordability, which evaluates an employee’s ability to pay for the plan

Minimum value

By law, the plan must offer minimum value which is defined as satisfying a 60% actuarial value test – this means that a plan would pay for at least 60% of medical expenses on average for a standard population. The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has released a minimum value value (or MV) calculator for employers and plans to use for this testing. For more complicated plans, such as self-insured market, there will be a safe harbor checklist that plans can use. Most employer-sponsored plans today will easily pass this requirement. Go to the federal minimum value calculator.

Affordability

The affordability test looks at each employee uniquely, not the aggregated population. It compares what employees pay for coverage to each employee’s wages.

The employee’s premium contribution for self-only coverage for the lowest cost plan cannot exceed 9.5% of employee wages (either Box 1 of the W-2 or rate of pay). If it does, the plan is not affordable and the employer has failed the responsibility to provide minimum essential coverage for that employee.

For example, if an employer charges $200 per month for single coverage, the annual cost of coverage would be $2,400. This plan would be unaffordable to employees with annual wages lower than $25,300.

For employers that offer multiple plan options, the affordability test can be performed in comparison to the single contribution of the lowest cost minimim value plan. The rules do not pay regard to the plan the employee chooses just to the fact that an affordable choice is available.

While small groups will not be penalized if their benefits don’t meet minimum value, it’s still important for these groups to understand these rules. That’s because employees who are eligible for employer-sponsored coverage that meets a minimum value are not eligible for federal subsidies on the exchange. Understanding this will help employers educate their employees about their benefit options.

It is worth noting that if Michigan expands its Medicaid program to cover individuals and families making 138% of the federal poverty level, employers will not be penalized if their employees enroll in Medicaid.
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10021) 9 years ago
Tomm wrote:
yes I was an insurance agent, and NO you did not get refused because you were too young. that would be age discrimination. you probably had a bad driving record.

I was 14 1/2 years old when I got my learners permit, and 15 when I bought my first car. I do remember you, because as a young kid employed as a delivery driver by Mr. Steadman at Coast-to-Coast, I did go to your office and asked to purchase auto insurance, and was told you didn't insure young people like myself. That happened dude. I don't really care that much about it today, because, well, if the tables were turned, I wouldn't have insured a 15 year old kid either. I had no bad driving record at that time, although I did earn one in my teenage years after - but don't distort and rewrite history.
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Posted by Arron (+103) 9 years ago
Like how fast could your Pinto go anyway Mr.Webmaster
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10021) 9 years ago
Sigh. If you wish to talk about cars, it was a Dodge Charger - which went quite fast.
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10021) 9 years ago
This one:

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Posted by Tomm (-1031) 9 years ago
Thanks for the response..........that didn't hurt did it.

Now I would like to know the standards for the 5,000,000 people that have been canc. that have not been covered by an employers plan. That is a diff. story, and the issue that has been in the news.

If you would like a discussion on classic cars, I think I can keep up with the best of them.
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Posted by David Schott (+18229) 9 years ago
I'd like to know how many medical insurance policies were "canceled" in each year for the past 10 years only to be replaced by a policy less favorable to the insured. It's your turn to do the research.
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+18254) 9 years ago
I can just see the seeds and stems in the carpet of that Charger.
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Posted by Arron (+103) 9 years ago
That is kind of a cool car LarryTheWebmaster. My first car was a 1967 chevelle SS396. I paid $225 for it and had to BEG my parents to let me buy it.
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Posted by Arron (+103) 9 years ago
Ooooh REALLy Tomm
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4462) 9 years ago
Arron, you need to get right to the ER, you're having an acute case of stupid, again. I'm very sorry those 7 million people will have to take time out of their busy lives to find new policies that aren't junk meant to screw them over. Sometimes people like things that aren't good for them, like Steve Daines or hookers. Too bad both aren't outlawed.

Oh, and I feel especially terrible for Tom with two M's who can't continue procreateing people in the ass, but has a giant, new clientele forced into his office but is too procreateing dim to realize it. You guys are procreateing amazing.

[This message has been edited by Buck Showalter (11/14/2013)]
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Posted by Arron (+103) 9 years ago
If protections are being taken then who exactly are getting hurt by hookers Buck.I bet there is some snickering about now when I post this.
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10021) 9 years ago
Arron, you are getting close to getting gagged for trolling.

If you don't know what trolling is, then read whatever Wikipedia currently has to say about it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...(Internet)
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Posted by David Schott (+18229) 9 years ago
It wouldn't be the first time Arron has been gagged.
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10021) 9 years ago
Just noticed this in my e-mail. BTW, this is what happens when you send me crazy ass poop in e-mail. I post it.

Arron wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Arron [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:30 PM
To: MilesCity.com Webmaster
Subject: kannot think of a twerky quirky title

Do not know.Sorry if I am a bit distracted but I am working on something.A cut.I rarely get cuts,but ask anyone,it happens.I have had people come to me and ask if I could sew them up.I am going to be pretty basic here.I explain that no I cannot sew them up.And when asked why I cannot sew them up I explain that if they were to go to a MD later they would/could ask who sewed them up.Trust me on this one,that would be unlikely to happen,that they would ever say I sewed them up.To sew someone up you have to have a surgeon`s license or you are in deep poop.I kind of was involved with a-I do not have the words right now.There was a Federal case that is known worldwide.You have read about it.There was not a surgeon.I know I am being vague.There is military federal involved.The guy died in flight because there was no one that was licensed to cut him open and fix the wound from a jacknife.I am/was personal friends with the Federal Attorney that prosecuted the case.There was a hospital
3/4 of a mile away.A friend of mine who is a bit eccentric,he bought a Russian field surgical kit.They are hard to come by.I think everyone should have one.Most Russian poop is crude,but it always procreateing works.I wonder if the show MASH (mobile army surgical hospital) would make sense to anyone today.I was in the DOD,well anyway they have MASH units buried mucho grande in the middle east.And no I was not in the DOD I just had clearance to be there.An email is a legal contract unless it is stated otherwise in the email.This one is confidential and stated as such.To the point.You have something Larry.You have a conveyance of communication and it is being used to discuss very important topics.
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+12379) 9 years ago
WTF? I mean, rarely have I seen such a WTF as that. Yow.
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Posted by Arron (+103) 9 years ago
Just saying that you have done something for the Community here Larry with Mc.com because people discuss important things and kind of get them out in the open.For one if you are going to post things,is what I am talking about in the email is the Navy Seal that was killed who came home for Christmas to Wolf Point Montana. And then his friends killed him.Talk about crazy poop Larry,how about that,look it up.He died on an air ambulance to Billings,from a jackknife wound.Talk about crazy poop Larry. WTF. I walked through and around MASH units that were sent to the middle east.They are buried over there,hundreds of units.They consist of mainly 3 compartments that are assembled into a MASH.Use FOI to get information on them.They can be put in to service by the US in a matter of hours and are completely self contained.Completely self contained.Should I repeat that?Post all of the crazy poop you want Larry and tell them about FOI.WTF Larry. Crazy poop.Built by DOD and buried in the sand just like the US government has done for decades.WTF
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Posted by Tomm (-1031) 9 years ago
Affordable Horse Act"

The U.S. government has just passed a new law entitled "The Affordable Horse Act" declaring that every citizen MUST purchase a new horse by April, 2014.

These 'affordable' horses will cost an average of $10,000-$50,000 each. This does not include boarding, feed, vet and training fees, and the riding equipment.

This law has been passed because, un...til now, typically only wealthy and financially responsible people have been able to purchase horses. This new law ensures that every American can now have an 'affordable' horse of their own, because everyone is 'entitled' to a new horse. If you purchase your horse before the end of the year, you will receive free turnout sheet (does not include S&H).

In order to make sure everyone purchases an 'affordable horse,' the cost of owning a horse will increase on average of 250-400% per year. This way, wealthy people will pay more for something that other people don't want or can't afford to maintain. But, to be fair, people who can't afford to maintain their horses will be regularly fined and children (under the age of 26) can use their parent’s ponies until they turn 27, after which date they must purchase their own horse.

If you already have a horse, you can keep yours (just kidding; no you can't).

If you don't want or don't need a horse, you are required to buy one anyhow.

If you refuse to buy one or can't afford one, you will be regularly fined $800 until you purchase one, or face imprisonment. If you cannot (or don't want to) purchase an 'affordable horse' from a private business, you can buy a starter pony from the U. S. government 'affordable pony exchange.' Such a pony will fulfill the basic requirements as far as soundness and trainability and will only cost 'slightly more' than a similar horse purchased from a private breeder.

Plus, since your tax dollars will subsidize the purchase of a horse from the U. S. government's 'affordable pony exchange,' it will appear that you are getting a good deal.

Failure to use the horse will also result in fines. People living in the desert, ghettos, inner cities, or areas with no access to trails and/or farms/boarding facilities are not exempt. Pre-existing conditions such as age, lack of experience, nor general fear of animals are not acceptable excuses for not using your horse.

A government review board (that couldn't tell the mare from the gelding ) will decide everything, including when, where, how often, and for what purposes you can use your horse, along with how many people can ride it. The board will also determine if one is too old or healthy enough to be able to use their horse, and will also decide if your horse has out lived its usefulness or if you must purchase specific training accessories(like a $2000 saddle) or a newer and more expensive horse.

Those that can afford horses will be required to do so ... it's only fair.

The government will also decide the name for each horse. Failure to comply with these rules will result in fines and possible imprisonment.

Government officials are exempt from this new law. If they want a horse, they and their families can obtain mounts free at the expense of taxpayers.

This includes lifetime training, riding lessons, tack and automatic adjustments for boarding their animals at top notch facilities.

Unions, bankers, and mega companies with large political affiliations ($$$) are also exempt.
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Posted by Arron (+103) 9 years ago
Larry,you altered my email and then posted it.Why? WTF. I have the original if you need it for review.WTF. you have scared Amorette with this. WTF
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Posted by Arron (+103) 9 years ago
Tomm,what am I to do.I cannot afford my horse named Obamacare.They named my horse they forced me to take.Can someone take care of Obamacare for me and just give me someone else`s money?I like Obamacare and all but I,well, it is eating me out of house and home and because Obamacare is here I no longer have room for the children.Just give me someone else`s money already right now instead.This horse named Obamacare is nice and everything but I really cannot afford it.It is eating me out of house and home and winter is coming.
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10021) 9 years ago
Arron wrote:
Larry,you altered my email and then posted it.Why? WTF. I have the original if you need it for review.WTF. you have scared Amorette with this. WTF

BULLSHIT. The e-mail was posted EXACTLY as you sent it, with absolutely no changes by me at all, with only the software here censoring the display of words, like shit to poop and the at symbol to (AT).

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Posted by Arron (+103) 9 years ago
I noticed the comment on my name.You said my parents misspelled it on my birth certificate.Show me your birth cirtificate. Why do you Insult Me.Until then I will refer to your parent`s FU and call you goof. goof emilson.
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4462) 9 years ago
Thank you, Tom with two M's. You demonstrate the problem in a perfect little wing-nutshell.
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10021) 9 years ago
Arron - you (and your various other little alter egos) need medical help. You are certifiably insane. Come back after becoming yet another to let us know who you really are.
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10021) 9 years ago
And you Mr. Tomm, are on thin ice as well. Exactly how do you know "Arron"? Are you two former co-workers or best buddies or what?
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4462) 9 years ago
His name is really Arron, he was bigsky and milescity and probably a handful of other aliases. I figure he just got out of jail or scrounged up enough to get his Internet turned back on for a month.
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10021) 9 years ago
Well, that actually makes sense. Perhaps those fools should start up "milescityhome.com" again. I know I would appreciate the humor.
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Posted by Amorette F. Allison (+1906) 9 years ago
"Tomm" also needs to credit the person who wrote the stupid horse story. I very much doubt he wrote it by hisself.
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4462) 9 years ago
He didn't, but that he thinks it's applicable says all I need to know about him.
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Posted by David Schott (+18229) 9 years ago
At least we know that one Miles City home, which happens to be NOT IN THE FLOOD PLAIN AND IS FOR SALE, is in full compliance with the Horse's Ass Act of 2013.
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