Posted by Cheryl Pieters (+474) 8 years ago
So far it looks like Montana is one of the few states that haven't been hit by the Flu Epidemic. Has anyone here had the flu the last couple of months? Has everyone had a flu shot? Have any of you had the flu shot but gotten the flu anyway?

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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11757) 8 years ago
There is something wrong with that map. Maybe our reporting system isn't compatible but we have had widespread influenza for several weeks.
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Posted by mcs (+397) 8 years ago
yes I had the flu shot in november, and tested positive on friday
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Posted by ellie may (+468) 8 years ago
there are alot of cases here in town. many people have been sick from it. i think this map is wrong due to the news stating we are hard hit also with the flu
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Posted by David Schott (+17053) 8 years ago
Cheryl doesn't list the date of her map. Here is the current CDC flu map.



CDC Weekly US Map: Influenza Summary Update
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Posted by Ann Johnson (+30) 8 years ago
I had the flu shot,so far so good,I also take a lot of vitiams and do real good hand washing,and I also watch what I touch,hand rails, shopping carts ect, carry hand santersizer.
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11757) 8 years ago
Flu shot doesn't guarantee no flu. There are so many strains. It usually reduces the severity, if that is any consolation. And I know some folks have really been clobbered this year. Two weeks and counting with a trip to the hospital. They didn't get their shot.
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Posted by David Schott (+17053) 8 years ago
Doctors agree: We need a better flu shot
By Maura Lerner
(Minneapolis) Star Tribune

One doctor calls the flu vaccine "overpromoted and overhyped," although he hastens to point out that he and his family still get flu shots.

In good years, people ignore the flu vaccine because they think the illness is no big deal. In bad years like this one, they complain that it doesn't work well enough.

But the biggest problem, says Dr. Gregory Poland, a vaccine researcher, is that scientists are still trying to understand the flu virus and come up with a better alternative. That means that every flu season, officials confront the challenge they face this year as deaths and hospitalizations mount: pleading with people to rally behind their best line of defense.

"Like every single man-made product, influenza vaccine is imperfect," said Poland, head of the Vaccine Research Group at the Mayo Clinic. "But I liken it to seat belts. Who would want to be in a crash without a seat belt"

The truth is that the flu shot, with all its imperfections, is as vexing to scientists like Poland as it has been to the general public.

On Friday, federal officials estimated that this year's flu vaccine is only about 60 percent effective. That's better than nothing, said Dr. Edward Ehlinger, the Minnesota health commissioner. But, he admits, "I think we're all in agreement that we need a much better vaccine."

The flu vaccine, Ehlinger said, never has been "one of the star performers."


READ MORE HERE:

The Seattle Times: Doctors agree: We need a better flu shot
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Posted by Chris Gamrath (+385) 8 years ago
Intersting that D.C. doesn't show as widespread yet. It's probably because they have a hard time determining who's actually spewing forth crap, and who's just a politician!
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Posted by Cactus Plains (+96) 8 years ago
I don't think the flu shot could work if it were meant to, the flu incubates in the stomach and a flu shot does not affect the stomach.
Once it incubates in the stomach the bacillus secretes slime poison that is then absorbed into the blood ... by then you are poisoned ... my opinion and I have been called a Wacko!

Cactus Pains
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Posted by Mandi (+351) 8 years ago
Cactus Plains, what world do you live in?
Contrary to popular belief, Influenza is mostly a respiratory illness. I am unsure of where the ideology began that having a stomach virus meant one had the "flu". If a person is truly ill with "influenza" they develop a fever, cough, congestion, achy body, etc. If you are throwing up, or have diarrhea, you probably have some sort of roto-virus or other digestive virus.
Please remember that is you have a virus, there is not much that the provider can do besides help you control the symptoms. ANTIBIOTICS WILL NOT HELP! Drink tons of fluids and stay home!
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Posted by Cactus Plains (+96) 8 years ago
I stand by what I said ... you are describing the symptoms of a brucella like disease, which occur after the poison is absorbed from your intestinal tract?

The flu stems from brucella.

Bacillus and virus are one and the same, just different stages, virus means poison and is a strand of DNA secreted by the bacillus.


just the opinion of the Cactus Plains
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Posted by cj sampsel (+479) 8 years ago
I bet you believe the world is flat and only about 10,000 years old.
Bacteria and viri are completely different organisms.
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Posted by t.anderson (+102) 8 years ago
I see why people have called you a Wacko Cactus Plains!

[This message has been edited by t.anderson (1/14/2013)]
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+17321) 8 years ago
The man has spent his career examining chemtrail fallout through electron microscopy. Wacko he is not.
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4461) 8 years ago
His cheese doesn't share the same area code as his cracker.
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Posted by Bob Netherton II (+1905) 8 years ago
Perhaps cactus is confused by Haemophilus influenza, a gram negative bacteria that does cause respiratory illness. But I doubt it.

Was it cactus who tossed out a reference to Psuedomonas flourescens to impress us with his supposed bacteriological knowledge?
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6165) 8 years ago
The flu stems from brucella.


Brucella is a bacteria that can cause flu-like symptoms in humans but it is not influenza which is a virus. Flu-like symptoms does not equal the flu.
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Posted by tom regan (+2522) 8 years ago
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Posted by Cactus Plains (+96) 8 years ago
go look at the snowflakes on a dark surface such as a car ... tell us about the no two snowflakes look alike? Do you see intelligent design as in the water telling you it is infected with a bacillus.

Pseudomonas flu orescens.

Netherton; no confusion here take a look in the mirror, brucella is a gram negative with a protective bio-film, eh if activated in the lungs you would have pneumonia?

anderson; you see not ... lacking

buck; a good horse would plant your head and see what growed ... some kind of a weed I would predict.

cj sampsels; bacillus, virus, slime mold, black mold, rot ... all different stages of the same bacteria Pseudomonas ... created by Communist Nazis to spray in the rain and to rot your brain
Chronic wasting disease ... you want more Dim wit

take anything off you want larry, this information maybe on the edge!

Wendy not bad except the last sentence of two. I beg to differ but if you got flu symptons you got the flu.

I think your derogatory comments indicate a Dim wit as in never having seen the light of day since birth.

Cactus Pains
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4461) 8 years ago
Friend, you need a new hobby. I hear crystal meth is a popular form of recreation in your parts.
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Posted by Bridgier (+9194) 8 years ago
I think there may already have been some experimentation with bath salts.
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Posted by JJC (+77) 8 years ago
Brucella causes bacterial infections, not viral. Humans become infected by having direct contact with infected animal meat, or ingestion of infected milk products. Animals that can be infected by Brucella are goats, cows, dogs, and pigs. Patients that become infected most likely are meat-packing employees, veterinarians, farmers and ranchers, or travelers who consume cow or goat products in Mexico. This bacteria penetrates the skin, eyes, lungs, or GI tract. It is spread through the lymphatic system, grows inside macrophages, and spreads throughout blood and organs. Symptoms include fever, chills, sweats, loss of appetite, backache, headache, and swollen lymph nodes. Fever tends to peak in the evening and returns to normal usually by morning. Symptoms can last up to months and even years, but is rarely fatal.

Ordinary influenza is an orthomyxo virus which may lead to pneumonia in high risk groups. Parainfluenza virus and respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), may cause bronchiolitis, viral pneumonia, or croup in children and cold and flu in adults. Symptoms of epidemic influenza are high fever, shaking chills, headaches, malaise, and muscle aches. Upper respiratory symptoms imitating a cold can also occur such as dry cough, sore throat, and runny nose. Typical flu season runs between late December to early march, and up to 40% of a community can become infected during an outbreak. It can be spread through small particle aerosols (sneezing and coughing).

So, no Brucella and influenza are not the same.
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Posted by Bridgier (+9194) 8 years ago
JJC, you're dealing with the Lysenko of the Powder River Basin - it doesn't matter what you say, it only matters what he believes... and he believes a lot of crazy things.
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Posted by Barb Holcomb (+406) 8 years ago
As I was brushing the inch of snow off my car after work tonight, I started looking for Pseudomonas flu orescens in the snow flakes. I might have seen one or two that looked pretty close, but it was dark and cold. I got to thinking that since I'm in Germany where, according to Cactus Plains it all started, I better be super careful. Then one of the voices in my head said, "you're okay, you had a flu shot several months ago" and then the other voice said, "but Cactus Plains said it's in the snow", and then the other voice said, "you're going wacko . . ." so I stopped listening to the voices and listened to my stomach instead, came home and ate dinner. End of story.

The scary part is that Cactus Plains made his way into my sub-conscience thoughts!


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Posted by JJC (+77) 8 years ago
Hopefully you didn't prepare infected pork or drink tainted goat milk for dinner. Hate for you to come down with slime producing flu infection in your stomach. Where, of course, the flu shot you received will not help.
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Posted by Barb Holcomb (+406) 8 years ago
No - I'm safe. I had a microwavable dinner full of sodium and other preservatives. I'm trying to stay young that way.

Looking back . . . I should have said subconscious thoughts rather than sub-conscience. Oh well, on to homework I go.

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Posted by cj sampsel (+479) 8 years ago
Cactus I don't know what is infecting your brain but I definetly don't want it. I have a degree in microbiology and that ridiculous
crap you write about the various "germs" all being the same is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Please let us know the source of your info. I would love to read it.
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Posted by Cactus Plains (+96) 8 years ago
jjc that is corrupted science you copied out of some brainwashing bull poop book!

sampsel it would be nice to have a civil consverstion to see what you know ... personlly I don't think you know anything of significance about bacteria ... you might start by reading "Dead doctors don't lie" by Dr Joel Wallich. He is healing people with most every disease with plant derived 90 different minerals and vitamin supplements. He was in Miles City once, Linus Pauling like intelligence, of most significance was he said mycoplamsa bacteria was under the claws of Cats!

Mycoplasma are patented nano bacteria like brucella and bacillus(ant hr ax)and I will guess for you that the comnazi that took over America in 1913 have been spraying us heavily with diseases since 1954)

Staged events equal the mainstream media ... Alex Jones Piers Morgan a staged event. They have less shooting in the UK now because they are not staging the shooting events in the UK. They control both sides eh Broom Ryder ... I think you are a staged event every time your con-trails appears?

Cactus Plains

Gunnar send me your snail mail; I have some extra signed and dated reports such as "Brainwashed", "Sagehen", "Bacillus", and others; Pick one and I will mail it to you. Your decent comments are appreciated ...
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Posted by cj sampsel (+479) 8 years ago
Unbelievable!
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Posted by SeptyTwo (+674) 8 years ago
I did look at some snowflakes this morning on my car... he may be on to something as I noticed a very weird and eerie similarity on most of the snowflakes....

They were all mostly WHITE!!!



oops forgot the "HA!"
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Posted by JJC (+77) 8 years ago
Cp- I also am a doctor, and I'm not dead, nor do I lie.
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11757) 8 years ago
There are generally two kinds of conspiracy theorists. The first one takes an example of either government incompetence or government secrecy (and governments do keep secrets, sometimes for good reasons, sometimes for stupid reasons) and makes it out to be more significant than it usually is.

The second kind are the sad, ignorant people who think because they have discovered some vast conspiracy that smart, well-educated, successful people know is crazy, they have one up on those smart, well-educated successful people and it makes them feel better about themselves. These are the moon landing deniers and the Holocaust deniers and now the tragedy in Connecticut deniers. They don't notice either how cruel (Holocaust) or how stupid (moon landing) their ideas are. They just think they are in a on a Sooper Special Secret and that makes them superior to those who, you know, actually are smart, well-educated and successful.

There is also the third class. These are people with mental illness who need help.

I mostly feel sorry for all of them.


Where the Cactus falls in this scale is up to you. I suspect he is a #2 with heavy #3 overtones.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6165) 8 years ago
Do the patented nano bacteria also cause dentohydroplosion and hot dog fingers? Cuz I think I have that. . .

[This message has been edited by Wendy Wilson (1/16/2013)]
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+17321) 8 years ago


"The Chemtrails in Spain...fall mainly on the plain!"
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11757) 8 years ago
I've got the rockin' pneumonia and the boogie-woogie blues.
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Posted by Cactus Plains (+96) 8 years ago
wendy if I understand your lingo correctly the answer is probably yes. Unfortunately this synthetic is very intelligent ... smarter than most doctors ... I'd listen to Dr Wallich's Genesis radio show ... there is also something else but I don't want to get booted ... it would please the Broom Ryder too much! eh

Broom Ryder; I could analyze your repetitive work of genius and show clearly how you could fill the pill under the category of Mentally ill.

Covering up the issue of the chemtrails and disease spraying is nothing to be proud of. Is it?

First John Halbert now Broom Ryder.

I just put some of the most important information ever on the internet in the history of the medical cartel. And you and two doctors try to cover it up with Babylonian darkness.

Cactus Plains ... the source on the hard grass plains?
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4461) 8 years ago
Cactus, I hate to piss on your fire, but doesn't this run counter to the idea that we're being poisoned?

http://www.google.com/pub...nds&surl=1

[This message has been edited by Buck Showalter (1/18/2013)]
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Posted by Cactus Plains (+96) 8 years ago
If your pee is full of phosphodiesterase might you not catch on fire and thus turn to a vapor form???

Your graph probably merits some analysis, however everytime I look at the graph I see you peeing on your horse's head or saddle or maybe it is your monitor????? ... not quite sure which?

Cactus Pains
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4461) 8 years ago
I actually do pee fire, it's a talent I've turned into a career. And yes, my saddle.


The graph is undoubtedly false, though. It's from World Bank, a communazi front org.
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Posted by Cheryl Pieters (+474) 8 years ago
A true flu is a respiratory illness. Anthing that makes you sick to your stomach is some other type of virus. this is one of the big ones this year:
Norovirus:
(No Vaccine and No Treatment)
There is no vaccine to prevent norovirus infection. Also, there is no drug to treat people who get sick from the virus. Antibiotics will not help if you have norovirus illness. This is because antibiotics fight against bacteria, not viruses. The best way to reduce your chance of getting norovirus is by following some simple tips.
http://www.cdc.gov/features/norovirus/
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6165) 8 years ago
Who are you and what have you done with Cheryl?
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Posted by Cactus Plains (+96) 8 years ago
I disagree completely, corruption is a cancer that is everywhere in the medical literature. Facsist Corporations fund the data for their pagan drugs.

It is logic verses ecologic ... ecologic is King.

They have to make the diseases through genetic engineering in
order to have a vaccine.

So after they first made brucella they were on their waying to poisoning the world population ...

Hundred of jet tankers ... what are they doing up there ... ???????????? Something like 70 tankers per state.

Wake up Americans

Commnazis ... you go back to sleep, if you have not got your flu shot ... hurry up this is probably the most wicked flu ever made.

The old orginal flu would be caused by brucella ... la! la!

It may be said 'respiratory' as it enters through breathing but incubates in the stomach ... kind of like acid reflux disease ... the bacillus cereum... both are caused by bacillus ...

in the lungs it would be called pneumonia or anthrax

1976 the white tailed deer got EHD ... Epizootic hemoragic disease ... the words describe Anthrax!!!

Cactus Plains
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Posted by Elizabeth Emilsson (+797) 8 years ago
Just want to say to to Barb Holcomb, : Your style of humor is not lost with the protareliet. . I enjoy your comments.
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