Call the Department of Justice main switchboard at 202-514-2000 if you are as angry about the corruption of the Romney family. They should not be majority stockholders in the company that owns the voting machines that will count the votes in Ohio, Colorado, Texas and a few other states. You will have someone answer and they will forward your call to a voice mail. After your message you have the option of having it delivered normally or URGENTLY...OPTION 2. Choose option 2 as we can't lose another day. It's 2 weeks to the election.

http://www.change.org/pet...re_receipt

Thanks, Kay. What next?

Just spread the word. Our election process is already flawed enough without having one of the candidates and his family owning the voting machines!

Keep those machines away from Tagg!!!!!

Imagine being named after a "hide and seek" game...LOL

This isn't good news and kinda scary to me

http://news.yahoo.com/rom...09723.html

This should scare everyone. Now you know why Romney is so sure he's going to win! spread the word people.

Do you honestly believe the machines are gonna be rigged? I think a better idea would be to watch the movie 2016. That is enough to scare a person.

I think a better idea would be to watch the movie 2016.

Wow, the epitome of oxymoron.

Ah, yes, 2016. Have you been keeping up on the fellow responsible for that steaming heap? He was president of Christian college until they fired him both for running around promoting his movie rather than running the college and for introducing people to his fiancee. Sadly, he was still married. So was his fiancee. They had to cancel their engagement after the college fired him. And their spouses found out about the 'engagement.'

I tried calling the number above and they said "it is busy and to call back in a couple of hours." Hopefully it is because folks are taking action on this.

Romney is a successful bussinessman. So he invested in a company that makes voting machines. He has invested in a lot of enterprises. They would be more likely to be rigged if some fly-by-night bankrupt person owned the company. If he invested in the company today it would be different. If it was any concern Obama would have blown it out of proportion by now. If he is not concerned , why should anybody else be concerned.

Now the apology tour. I do not think the US President should bow to any foreign leader. It is either a gesture of submission , or it is a surrender. Perhaps if he can muster a second term , he can start kneeling before foreign leaders.

When I called last night they had been swamped, Steve. Lots of indignation about it especially when you have watched a full blown documentary as to how easy it is to do...and, has been done in a Governor's race in Florida several years ago.

You do realize the "apology tour" bit is a bald-faced lie. It NEVER HAPPENED. EVER. Check with the New York Times. They gave it a four Pinocchio rating.

I do not think the US President should bow to any foreign leader.

That is because you are a procreating idiot.

Kneel before Me bridgier.

these machines apparently also are in Colorado another swing state...

Electronic voting without some form of auditable physical artifacts are invitations to voting fraud.

This is the place where REAL problems happen. Why procreate around with buying votes retail, when you can just change a large # of votes on the wholesale side. Much cleaner that way.

But I'm sure SD will be happy to tell me (once he spits out the ball gag) why Voter ID laws are so much more important than statistical voting audits and black panthers acorn onetimesomeoneregisteredasdaffyduck blah blah blah.

Well why have voter ID at all? Republicans are for voter ID and the democrats are fighting it tooth and nail. Why is that? Any answers? How hard is an approved ID to come by if you are in the US legally.

bridgier. I see you have knowlege/experience in submission.

As Joseph Stalin once said: "The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."

Someone said you can lead a horse to water but you can`t make it drink. I saw the skeleton of a horse in a well. It had drowned.

If it was a skeleton at the time of viewing, how do you know it drowned? Dumbchit

Sorry, the Four Pinocchios came from the Washington Post. http://voices.washingtonp..._tour.html

I love the Post's Pinocchio scale!

Also, voter fraud is a solution in search of a problem. It really doesn't exist. Problem is, to get that valid ID, you have to pay money and make a trip somewhere to obtain it. For some elderly, disabled or poor people, having the bucks to get the official ID and the ability to go where they need to go to get the ID is the problem.

Neither driver's licenses nor walker's licenses are free. Plus you have to get the birth certificate (notarized copies cost money) from one place and take them to a completely different place and pay another fee.

If there were free IDs that could be easily given to everyone, I'd have less problem with this so-called voter fraud. I'd still have some problem for the simple reason, VOTER FRAUD DOES NOT EXIST on any scale or level that matters.

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Btw Skeletons don't drown

The only voter fraud that exists is in the owning and fixing of voting machines...and that isn't the voter, it is the owner of the machines...

2:20 pm Mountain and I got through

Because I worked for the guy that owns the land and he had come across it while looking for it. It was in the well and it drowned. So call him a liar after you know exactly nothing about the incident except what I accurately told you. Voter fraud? If you say you are a legal voter and you are not , and you vote , is that not fraud? Hence the democrats not wanting proper voter ID to be required. The cases have been in the news. Read it.

I am glad all of you are already making excuses for obama to lose. It was not obama that lost , it was voter fraud. .oO( I will pretend that voter fraud and the Romney win can only be accomplished through the "Romney Machines". And then just believe it.)

More republican efforts to cheat the system in Ohio

http://www.rawstory.com/r...tion-date/

So call him a liar after you know exactly nothing about the incident except what I accurately told you

Again, I have to wonder exactly which drugs SD abuses.

My money is on bath salts, Bridgier.

One GOPer says doctors perform abortions on women who aren't even pregnant. Taking that at face value, can we assume SD is proof that abortions are not 100% effective?

Yes, the cases have been in the news. The news being there are no cases of voter fraud. One case the Republicans brought up took place during the riots in the sixties. The 1860's. During the Civil War, for you 'states rights' buffs. One case was a man who discovered a poll worker had ticked the box next to his son's name. Not fraud, honest mistake.

Money has been spent but no statistically valid cases of voter fraud have been found. None. Zip. ZERO.

So why are people trying to keep the poor, the elderly and the people of color who can't afford to get a state issued ID from voting? Hmmmmm?

I suspect RMoney will will. They Republicans will take control of the state and the feds. And god help those of us with who pee sitting down. And those of us who aren't wealthy. And those of us without decent health insurance.

The next four years are going to be grim.

Interesting. I rather feel like even those who would have a tendency to align themselves with Mr. Romney but still fall under the $250K mark, will think twice about voting against Medicare. Even those not eligible have someone who depends upon it. Despite age 55 being the time for changing to a voucher system in his program,the huge changes to medication will affect EVERYONE who now depend upon Medicare for assistance. With "Obamacare" there is even assistance with the "donut hole". Maybe, in some cases, their children will be able to pick up the costs but..not always.

What does it matter any way? The popular vote doesn't even count which I think is a pile of crap. Makes me not want to vote. I think the electoral college needs to go away.

By not voting, you definitely won't get rid of the electoral college and the minority will rule the day...If it doesn't count, why do you think the parties go to so much trouble to get folks to the voting booth including offering to give them a ride???

Think, too, how it would reduce the power in some states? OMG.. Guess we do have to think of the State races, though. Here is a fantastic read... [urlhttp://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2012/10/29/121029taco_talk_editors?mbid=social_tablet_e&pink=IrxA45[/url]

Hope it works:-)

Rats...http://www.newyorker.com/...ink=IrxA45

Takes practice to remember to put in those URL tags.

I know my presidential vote won't count but everything else will, from senator on down. So I will vote on election day (I like chatting with the judges).

Great article Jeri..thanks for sharing...

Is it somehow more expensive for broke black people to get acceptable voter ID that it is for a broke white person? It seems only the black and minority poor people are your priorities when it comes to the vote. Now why is that?

Take a look at my next post for all of you -words excape me- ummm citizens that are so politically shrewd here. That was a joke by the way.

No, the cost of recognized ID is still cost prohibitive for some poor and elderly people, no matter their genetic background. My favorite were the busload of elderly cloistered nuns who couldn't vote because they had never needed ID before and didn't know they needed it now.

They would have to check and see if their babtismal certificate would qualify.

Umm... these girls would have a "babtismal certificate" because they are babes.



I don't think that is what you meant.

No, baptismal certificates do not qualify. This article outlines why this is an issue for hundreds of thousands of people. Many of us take for granted being able to apply for the needed birth certificate to obtain the required photo identification to vote. For many people, it is not as simple as going to the courthouse and paying $5.00 for a certified copy of the birth certificate, and then another fee for the photo ID, even if they could afford it.

http://www.myrtlebeachonl...means.html

Richard ... I think you need to update your picture. Those girls have to be older by now.

The certificate could be used to aquire a state picture ID that would suffice. It took me a long time to read what you wrote Richard or whoever posted the picture............I was trying to determine the location where the picture was taken to try to establish relevance to my post. There are many clues in the picture that required study.

Baptismal records and concealed carry permits OK, student ID's... might as well belong to the New Black Panthers.

Obviously, SD did not read the article.

But getting a state-issued ID requires a birth certificate.

Richard ... I think you need to update your picture. Those girls have to be older by now.

Not at all. They have found the fountain of youth. Of course, if there was some local talent that wanted to volunteer for a new picture....

Keep posting it. Maybe Sexy Amy will come back.

Gee whiz Buck, it was Sexy Sam, not Amy. You should pay more attention. The first rule is to always remember their name and birthday.

That's never been my strong point. Just ask my ex-girlfriends, uh... Sam, Amy, and uh... No, Sam and Amy don't sound right. My head hurts.

Sam can be short for Samantha ya know...

There are many people who do not have access to a birth certificate. This is especially true of senior citizens born in poor areas in the South. And what of foreign born citizens? Political refugees from 3rd world countries often have no birth certificate. Should they be denied their right as citizens to vote?

If they ain`t got documentation they shouldn`t be here. And they sure as HELL should not be allowed to vote.

I'm thinking we need to start a thread for "Mr. Partridge's Greatest Failures"

SD would have to be right near the top - BetterDeadThenFed would be a close second...

Where exactly are we shipping these rural Southerners who ain't got documentation?

I'm thinking we need to start a thread for "Mr. Partridge's Greatest Failures"

Hard to blame the 10th grade history teacher for the failings of elementary school reading instructors parents.

Point taken.

As for difficulty obtaining birth certificates:

A member of my family who was born overseas (but in a military hospital, to an American service man and an American woman), doesn't have standard birth certificate documentation. So there is difficulty in applying for documentation and photo ID, like a driver's license.

I don't even have a "long form" copy of my birth certificate. Without divulging -exactly- how old I am: did Holy Rosary issue long form certificates in the 1970's?

Holy Rosary issued the "long" birth certificates up until at least 1966, as I have mine. Early 70's, don't know.

SD said:

If they ain`t got documentation they shouldn`t be here. And they sure as HELL should not be allowed to vote.

Listen, my friend. I said nothing about undocumented aliens. I am talking about immigrants who attain citizenship. As citizens they have the right to vote. I mention political refugees because there is a contingent of "Lost Boys" from the Sudan civil war (which lasted from 1983 to 2005) who are currently living in Salt Lake City. Do you think that they all came to this country with birth certificates? Do you think that folks living in a war zone give much thought to getting birth certificates for the children born during such chaos? You are a pampered git who has no notion of how much of the rest of the world lives.

Those folks who came for any foreign country, ie Sudan, in order to enter our country would have had to be issued a visa and a passport. The Passport has a picture id, and therefore would constitute the right to vote. I speak from one who has children from a 3rd world country w/o birth certificate, they do however have visas and passports.

Ruh roh