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Posted by Meri (+126) 11 years ago
As a new school year starts please make sure that if your child/ children walk to and from school make sure they know the route they are to use and that you know who lives on that route! Please check your local registry sites! I am not sure how to post a link for that on here but it is not hard to find! Thank YOu!
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Posted by neonfreedom (+288) 11 years ago
I live by the slew near Garfield school,my grandparents live behind me and walk daily up to main street and back,on their walks they have encountered a tall scraggly looking man that hangs out in different areas by Garfield and down close to the road...he usually wears a long brown trench coat and has a dog with him,dont know if he is harmful or harmless but i thought id put it out there because there are a lot of kids that walk this way after school.....
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Posted by RB (+434) 11 years ago
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Posted by Love2Hate (+50) 11 years ago
does his dog look like a black wolf? with white-ish legs?
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4459) 11 years ago
I can't wait to see the punch line.
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Posted by Mandi (+361) 11 years ago
Warning to all tall scraggly men in trenchcoats! You are considered to be creepy pedophiles!
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Posted by neonfreedom (+288) 11 years ago
ya when he fallows you till you turn a look then ducks behind something he is creepy and people need to be warned,how do i know he does this because he has done it to me while i was walking with my 16 month old....

[This message has been edited by neonfreedom (9/6/2012)]
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Posted by Bridgier (+9526) 11 years ago
aaaaaaaand here we go.
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Posted by Meri (+126) 11 years ago
I was just reminding parents as I got quite a suprise in my local neighborhood when I checked the list and am am sure parents of children who walk to Garfeild and or the Jr. high using the Woodbury Rt. would be just as suprised as I was! Just trying to keep people aware! ...
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Posted by Meri (+126) 11 years ago
This has nothing to do with creepy dog walkers who dress in trench coats... just cause someone dressed different does not mean they are the person you should be paying attention to! Just saying!
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Posted by cubby (+2687) 11 years ago
neon, if that indeed happen to you why on earth did you not call the police? I mean if I were walking with my child and some one acted like that, the first thing I would have done is call the cops and have them ask him what he's doing lurking around following people with his dog.
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Posted by neonfreedom (+288) 11 years ago
i did call the cops and made a report...But this isnt about me,and not what i wanted to come out of the original post...i was just saying...not all people that wear trench coats or scary looking are mean or harmful...im just putting it out there so people pay more attention..because everyday at the end of school i see some very young children walking by my house alone...and i sure as hell would not want any thing to happen to any of them let along my own child.....

[This message has been edited by neonfreedom (9/6/2012)]
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Posted by Love2Hate (+50) 11 years ago
well just so you know he is harmless he just has a cpl screws loose...I know this because he is the parent of a friend of mine. yea hes kind of weird but completely harmless
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Posted by SeptyTwo (+681) 11 years ago
I second the above...

He walks his dog all the time, we see him all the time, we exchange waves all the time. He even helped us when our dog got loose. He found her and returned her with nary a few words.

Although we haven't really talked to him other than "hello" and "nice day" and when we first started noticing him, we also had our doubts, but in the four years on our block, we have felt nothing but gentle vibes from him.

Basically, he has been around for years and nothing that I know of has been negatively associated with him.
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Posted by Levi Forman (+3710) 11 years ago
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Posted by howdy (+4953) 11 years ago
Dangerous people often look like the average person and one would never pick them out in the crowd as being dangerous...Just look at the pictures in the paper of folks that have been convicted of heinous crimes...they are for the most part normal looking IMO...Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a handsome man...
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Posted by Bridgier (+9526) 11 years ago
dont know if he is harmful or harmless but i thought id put it out there because there are a lot of kids that walk this way after school


Is it libelous to imply that someone is probably a pedophile?
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4459) 11 years ago
Not if you say he's allegedly a pedophile, like that pal of Danny K's whose name I forget that is allegedly a pedophile.
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Posted by Mufasa (+90) 11 years ago
"...we have felt nothing but gentle vibes from him."


So there is a happy ending to this story after all?!
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Posted by SeptyTwo (+681) 11 years ago
Is it libelous to imply that someone is probably a pedophile?


not if the implication is based on "looks"



Hollywood is a GREAT learning tool!

[This message has been edited by SeptyTwo (9/7/2012)]
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Posted by Patrisha (+16) 11 years ago
I am a concerned parent with children attending Garfield. Just the other day a 8 year old girl came to my car with my daughter and asked for a ride home because she had to walk home. I asked her where she lived and she said on 3rd street. I would not let my children walk that far alone. So I had her dial her parents phone number so I could talk to them before letting her get in my car. Her parents do not know me but were just fine with me taking her. Who knows maybe I could have been a polite pedophile that asked permission to take the child. It was disturbing to me as a parent first that the child was going to walk alone and second the parents were not concerned that a stranger was giving their child a ride. Also you can check the Sex offender registry but remember that not all pedophiles are listed only the ones that have been reported and tried for their crimes. If you check the national statistics of sex crimes, 54% are never reported and 44% of victims are under 18 years old and 97% of rapist never spend a day in jail. The sex offender registry is nice but in reality a small list compared the the statistics.
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Posted by Bridgier (+9526) 11 years ago
And, it should be kept in mind that sex offender != pedophile.
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Posted by Levi Forman (+3710) 11 years ago
The U.S. Department of Justice reports

Nearly 800,000 children younger than 18 are missing each year, or an average of 2,185 children reported missing each day.
More than 200,000 children were were abducted by family members.
More than 58,000 children were abducted by nonfamily members.
115 children were the victims of "stereotypical" kidnapping. These crimes involve someone the child does not know or a slight acquaintance who holds the child overnight, transports the child 50 miles or more, kills the child, demands ransom, or intends to keep the child permanently.
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+12773) 11 years ago
A large percentage of pedophiles are parents, priests, scout leaders, etc. so worrying about a guy in a trench coat doesn't solve anything.
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Posted by K. D. (+368) 11 years ago
So, Amorette, what about the small percent of pedophiles? What about them? Do they not count?

[This message has been edited by K. D. (9/8/2012)]
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Posted by JaDee (+77) 11 years ago
lol, all he does is walks he 's dog,

neon, don't be paranoid !
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Posted by JaDee (+77) 11 years ago
Amorett, is right though !!!
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Posted by Chris Gamrath (+383) 11 years ago
Wondering when it became a crime to worry about someone that might make YOU uncomfortable even though someone else might not be?

Honestly I think it's more of a crime to try and do something decent and post it on MC.Com then it is to rob the local bank. Must everything on here be blown into some sort of personal attack towards someone else?

Simply stated I took it as "this person made me feel uncomfotable, thought you guys might want to know." If you know the person they speak of and you're ok with how they act, fine. If you don't and think it's a good head's up thing to be aware of, fine. If you think it's yet something else to turn into a he said/she said slanderous defimation of character on MC.Com.....shocker!

Let's stick to something we cam all agree to disagree on, politics and/or religion.
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Posted by Bridgier (+9526) 11 years ago
well, it's certainly not slander...
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Posted by Kacey (+3157) 11 years ago
It's simple. Any parent should take proper care of their children! Know they are safe. Know where they are. If they are walking make sure they walk in groups. No child should be walking to school alone.

As for who is suspect and who isn't, no one knows. And yes, some do wear trenchcoats. At least they did almost 50 years ago in MC.
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Posted by Denise Selk (+1668) 11 years ago
If they are walking make sure they walk in groups. No child should be walking to school alone.


I must respectfully disagree. We should be teaching our children how to handle perilous situations, not lock them away to ensure their safety, nor drive them four blocks, when kids could definitely use the exercise and responsibility. Not only do Levi's statistics support this, these are skills they can put to use later in life. We do them no favors by sheltering them in this manner.

Woodbury is a very, very busy street, both before and after school. Teach your children to kick, scream, bite, run, whatever it takes to draw attention to an unwanted stranger. It would not go unnoticed. Teach them to never, under any circumstance, get in a car with a stranger, nor enter their house, no matter who they claim to be. Teach them every trick in the book to protect themselves, and then LET THEM BE KIDS.

You cannot account for, and protect them from, every possible dangerous scenario. Schools encourage children to walk to and from school, and there is even a designated week to try to get them to do so. Empower them with the knowledge they need and then let them walk, run, skip, bike, whatever.
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Posted by Kacey (+3157) 11 years ago
I respectfully disagree. You can try and teach a five year old to kick and scream and run but they are basically just too young. Fear sets in and everything they learned goes out the window. Most kindergarten age children will just freeze up and cry. So I still think there is safety in numbers.
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Posted by Denise Selk (+1668) 11 years ago
Well, I didn't realize our conversation was limited to kindergartners. I would not disagree with your statement had it been that narrowly defined. I do not allow my kindergartner to walk to and from school. I do, however, allow his older brother and sister to do so.

I found the group recommendation impractical. If that is possible, wonderful. However, since most blocks do not contain a group of similarly-aged children, it is a bit unrealistic. They may be able to walk together for part of the journey, but there is likely to be a portion that is walked alone, and I would not allow that fact to deter me from allowing my children to walk.

Is there a slight bit of danger? Sure. As there is in playing sports or eating a hot dog, or being around even a few inches of water. Trying to protect them from every possible dangerous scenario only makes for neurotic parents and children.
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Posted by Chris Gamrath (+383) 11 years ago
I can relate to the hotdog scenario. I watched the Nathan's hotdog eating contest on ESPN and it made me feel very very afraid! That's just sick and wrong Joey Chestnut!
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Posted by Jeff Denton (+761) 11 years ago
Attacks probably happen more often than we know. For instance, I was blown away by what happened in my own neighborhood last week, it is being covered up and got extremely minimal local media coverage. Nobody knows why. Strange when you can't get detailed, accurate information about an assault of a six year old by a nineteen year old autistic person. I thought we had the right to know who to keep an eye on. It can happen anywhere, even in your quiet little town.
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Posted by Bridgier (+9526) 11 years ago
Due process, how does that work?
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Posted by Denise Selk (+1668) 11 years ago
Since drowning is responsible for more deaths among children 1-4 than any other cause except congenital anomalies (birth defects), and among those 1-14, fatal drowning remains the second-leading cause of unintentional injury-related death behind motor vehicle crashes, I'd say banning any and all types of accumulated water is the only prudent course of action.

Bathtubs, sinks, puddles of water, home inflatable swimming pools, and ESPECIALLY Olympic-sized swimming pools, must all go. One can never be too diligent.

ANYTHING TO ENCOURAGE SAFETY IN A SOCIETY AT RISK!
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Posted by Jeff Denton (+761) 11 years ago
I think you forgot an important statistic, Denise. Participation in formal swimming lessons can reduce the risk of drowning by 88% among children. Good luck with banning all Olympic pools this year. LOL
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4459) 11 years ago
I support the people who think the world is terribly dangerous. Without their attitude, I would never fish in peace.
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Posted by Lori Barnett (+92) 11 years ago
In response to Denise Selk.....I have a 10 year old that rides bike to school and I just want to say "Well Said"!
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Posted by David Schott (+18768) 11 years ago
Denise Selk wrote:
"Teach your children to kick, scream, bite, run, whatever it takes to draw attention to an unwanted stranger."

Good advice. Also, bang on the bathroom stall doors until people come running. Yikes.

The Seattle Times: Burien grocery-store employees tackle man assaulting boy
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Posted by Denise Selk (+1668) 11 years ago
Exactly. Never go quietly......great advice that is useful throughout life.

Anyway, the bumping of this thread is timely. A letter sent home from school this past week...

September 2012

Dear Parents,

Last year 324 elementary school children in Miles City walked or biked to school during International Walk and Bike to School Week! This year we would like to top that by at least 25 students. This year International Walk and Bike to School Week is October 1-5 and we would like to encourage as many children to participate as possible. Walking or biking is a healthy and fun way to get to school and helps children's academic performance.

If your child lives too far from school to walk, try driving part of the distance, then park and let them walk the rest of the way.

Less than 40 years ago over 50% of the elementary students walked or biked to school, now less than 16% do. At the same time, the number of children who are overweight and obese has increased dramatically. It is recommended that children get at least 60 minutes of physical activity every day. Walking or biking to school is a great way to get started.

I hope you will encourage your children to walk or bike to school this week. Walking or bicycling gives children time for physical activity and a sense of responsibility and independence; allows them to enjoy being outside; and provides them with time to socialize with their parents and friends and to get to know their neighborhoods.

The classroom with the largest participation will receive a prize!

Sincerely,



Tara M. Andrews
MSU Extension Agent, Custer County
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Posted by Cheryl Pieters (+484) 11 years ago
Here's a handy online map pertaining to this conversation:
http://www.city-data.com/...ntana.html
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