http://www.nysun.com/article/48402

"What I don't get is the non-binding resolution," Mr. Giuliani said. "I don't get that. In the business world if two weeks were spent on a non-binding resolution, it would be considered non-productive," he said to widespread laughter from the crowd.

"They just can't decide any tough questions. A nonbinding resolution is a comment without making a decision..What we pay people in Washington for is to make decisions,"

"Presidents can't do nonbinding resolutions. Presidents have to make decisions and move the country forward, and that's the kind of president that I would like to be, a president who makes decisions."



And you thought voting Democrats into power would make them stop babbling like a feckless minority.

Using your logic, can you explain why the Republicans threatened to filibuster a useless, non-binding resolution?

Next pres. Lets hope not. Mr. G. is a RINO

SHHHHHHH.

Don't tell Rick that.

Better Giuliani than Hillary, that's for sure! She's already served in the White House and she didn't do that well the first time.

This isn't the Dennis Kucinich thread?

HIllary and Pelosi (the San Francisco treat and her fuzzy Californa gang) now that is really scary.

Could it be worse than what we've got going now?

Just askin'

You have to ask?

Say what you want about Rudy Giuliani. . . . but If he wins his White House bid, it will make for some great photo shoots at the inaugural ball.

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Right on Hal. That is about the only thing that will come about.

Guliani would be an interesting presidential candidate and I think he would be a much better manager in the white house than Bush. I can't really see a pro-choice pro gay marriage pro gun control candidate getting through the primary though, and I would personally be pretty concerned that he doesn't have enough respect for civil liberties.

Guliani would be an interesting presidential candidate and I think he would be a much better manager in the white house than Bush. I can't really see a pro-choice pro gay marriage pro gun control candidate getting through the primary though, and I would personally be pretty concerned that he doesn't have enough respect for civil liberties.

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Who wouldn't be a better manager than Bush? Bush is a dreadful manager.

I'm cool with Guiliani's stands on social issues.

I too, am concerned about civil liberties in a Guiliani presidency.

I think that we should throw out the political parties and get down to business. Who cares what party they are from. I would vote for Hillary unless Guliani runs. Not your typical republican.

Roxanna:

I agree with you.

Unlike some idealogues who post on this site, *COUGH* *RICK K.* *COUGH* I've never voted a straight party line ticket in my entire life.

I'm open to Guiliani as a candidate, I need to get a better idea on some of his positions before making a choice. And it's a long, long, time until November 2008!

You guys and your "stand" on "civil liberties"

It almost seems like you've forgotton that the worst "civil liberties" president over the last 30 years has been Bill Carnivore V-Chip Clinton.

Imagine for a moment that Bush, instead of Clinton, had pushed a "Communications Decency Act" (internet censorship) all the way to a Supreme Court challenge, where his effort was rebuked by all justices in two separate opinions.

Justice Stevens, writing for the majority...

"The vagueness of the CDA is a matter of special concern for two reasons. First, the CDA is a content based regulation of speech. The vagueness of such a regulation raises special First Amendment concerns because of its obvious chilling effect on free speech...Second, the CDA is a criminal statute. In addition to the opprobrium and stigma of a criminal conviction, the CDA threatens violators with penalties including up to two years in prison for each act of violation. The severity of criminal sanctions may well cause speakers to remain silent rather than communicate even arguably unlawful words, ideas, and images."

Had it been Bush, you'd all have come unglued. Clinton(T) however, is immune because if there's one thing the MSM always teaches us, it's that Democrats(T) respect* "Civil Liberties"

After all, they don't even need a war to justify wiretapping and warrantless searches
http://www.nationalreview...200946.asp
because deep down inside, we all know they respect* our "Civil Liberties"

How could Giuliani possibly fare any worse?




*Respecting* "Civil Liberties" - to enact whatever regulation best amplifies progressive speech/thought, and/or restricts conservative speech/thought.

hmmm... thinking out loud... "should I announce my candidacy on MC.com or go stand in front of the MC street cam?" Decisions, Decisions.

Rick:

Buddy, you've got to do better than "Clinton did it too."

You can't trust either side of the aisle not to steal your freedoms. The Republicans want to wiretap your phone, search your house without a warrant, and throw you in a jail that's outside the legal system. The Democrats want to take your guns away, ban any activity they don't approve of, and dictate what you do with your private property. Giuliani apparently likes to do all of that from both sides.

That said, I wouldn't rule out voting for him if I felt he was going to provide good leadership for the country and not do anything radical on the civil liberties side. It would just be a concern of mine with him.

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hmmm... thinking out loud... "should I announce my candidacy on MC.com or go stand in front of the MC street cam?" Decisions, Decisions.

You need to think big. I bet if you went out with a bell and a bullhorn, wearing nothing but a couple strategically placed "Bonine '08" signs, you could get on Billings TV if not the national news.

"Mr. G. is a RINO"

No, he is a republican who is trying to create the perception that he is conservative. At best, he is Conservative In Name Only. Most modern day republicans are not conservative.

Then call him a CINO. Still would not vote for him.

Richard - Need you be reminded AGAIN that there is more than just one kind of conservative? While you're correct that many of today's Republicans are not FISCAL conservatives, it does not mean that they're not TheoCons, NeoCons, RichCons, CorporateCons, LibertarianCons (you'd probably fit into this subgroup), PaleoCons or MilitaryCons.

There are many different categories of conservatives, just as there are many different categories of liberals (It is terribly simplistic to use the Liberal = tax and spend/Conservative = spendthrift model). It is more more accurate to deliniate between Liberal and Conservative along ideological or philosophical terms.

My source for the seven types of conservatives listed above was http://adamash.blogspot.c...-some.html, but there are several different lists with different permutations of the basic groupings.

Looks like you are going to remind me wheather I need it or not.

Ain't I helpful?

I think many conservatives are willing to set a few things aside if it means avoiding the election of the next Neville Chamberlain

Using your logic, can you explain why the Republicans threatened to filibuster a useless, non-binding resolution?

If the war is such a moral imperative, what in the world is the majority party doing with non-binding resolutions? I guess we all knew Democrats admired the UN model of governance. But if the whole point is to make a statement, then why are Democrats in such a rush to close discussion?

It's typical politics. They don't want to solve any problem, they just want to ride it for awhile. This kind of gamesmanship used to be off-limits when lives were on the line.

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Guiliani a beter "Manager?" How 'bout Water Boy for B. Obama!?

Guiliani a beter "Manager?" How 'bout Water Boy for B. Obama!?

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Six words:

"You're doin' a heckuva job Brownie!"

Guiliani a beter "Manager?" How 'bout Water Boy for B. Obama!?

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Bush couldn't "manage" a fart after eating three cans of baked beans.