John Tester's and the Democrats' solution to clean up the "Culture of Corruption" in Washington

is putting this guy in charge:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11261035/

http://www.nypost.com/sev...rissey.htm

Folks, vote your conscience . . . and however the vote count goes, you won't be wrong.

Rick, I bet you are so excited about your post you just launced one. You are going to cry like a girl tommorrow when your vaulted party goes down in a blaze of homosexual paige love. Do you have any friend?

I don't know-it looks like both parties have their BIG problems.
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"Rep. Bob Ney of Ohio, who pleaded guilty last month in the Jack Abramoff influence-peddling investigation, resigned from Congress on Friday.

"The Republican leadership has allowed Bob Ney to receive his paycheck and benefits for seven weeks after his admission of guilt to criminal conspiracy charges _ it is an embarrassment to this institution and an insult to the American taxpayer," Pelosi said in a statement.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/11/04/D8L64R7O0.html
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I suppose there are so many bad apples that you should not vote along party lines but look at the actual issues these candidates are willing to tackle (it wouldn't hurt to take a look at the individual's character as well). It is silly to be "Red" or "Blue" as opposed to trying to be a conscientious citizen trying to pick the best candidate regardless of his party affiliation.

Maybe it's time for a multi-party system like most of the other developed countries of the world. This way the elections wouldn't seem like this big competitive football game; "Ha Ha, my team won" sort of mentality. Sure, your "team" can win, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you or your family or your community has won anything. Often it can be just the opposite.

I got a kick out of Tester's commercial showing him with his gun and dog out in the country. I suppose he was showing that he is a gun guy, hunter and etc.

Then it comes out that he hasn't had a hunting license since 1990.

Kind of funny, no matter what party you support.

In other things I hear will happen if the DEMONcRATs win:

Baby-eating contests every Tuesday on the floor of the House. Nancy Pelosi & Dennis Kucinich will be the judges.

Barney Frank will marry Gerry Studds, again on the floor of the House. This is a two-fer for the DEMONcRATs, because Gerry studs is both gay AND dead, therefore it's a double-header of deviancy.

Nice...really nice.

"The Republican leadership has allowed Bob Ney to receive his paycheck and benefits for seven weeks after his admission of guilt to criminal conspiracy charges _ it is an embarrassment to this institution and an insult to the American taxpayer," Pelosi said in a statement.

Pretty stunning double standard considering this Democrat is not only still collecting a paycheck but maintains his seat in Congress.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/P...index.html

No word on what's going to happen to the $90k in "cold" cash they found in his freezer though. Democrats are more than willing to wait (and wait and wait) for a rational explanation before removing Rep. Jefferson from office.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._Jefferson

On 30 July 2005, Jefferson was videotaped by the FBI allegedly receiving $100,000 worth of 100 dollar bills in a leather briefcase at the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Arlington, Virginia.[7] Jefferson told an investor, Lori Mody, who was wearing a wire, that he would need to give Nigerian Vice President Atiku Abubakar $500,000 "as a motivating factor" to make sure they obtained contracts for iGate and Mody's company in Nigeria

Ethics, schmethics.

Please also keep in mind, that despite Alcee Hastings being only the 6th Federal Judge in US History to be impeached, he has been nonetheless elected to the US House with Democrats' blessing 7 times. Now Pelosi wants him to chair one of the most important committees in the House.

But like, OMG, Bob Ney's paycheck wasn't cut off for 7 whole weeks!

Travesty! Speaker Pelosi at her finest.

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Speaker Pelosi.. I like the sound of that.

Not as much as I like the sound of Comrade Pelosi, but we'll take what we can get...

Some random thoughts:

I believe that the elephants will hold both houses and may well gain a couple of seats. While there are a lot of us conservatives who are very frustrated with the elephant party, the donkey's on a national level have not given us any real reason to vote FOR them, other than they hate Bush. That sort of attitude has never won an election.

If there was really going to be a huge shift in congress, the stock market would have been down today. Instead, it was up 119 points.

And even if I am wrong, and the donkeys win, it means that the price of oil will go up and that COP P/E of $5.40 will double. "Bulls make money, Bears make money, pigs get slaughtered."

If we survived through 4 years of Carter, we can make it through 2 years of Pelosi.

Remember as you vote tomorrow......

It's definitely time to put the "checks and balances" back into our government. This carte blanche policy of letting everything go their (Rep) way has got to stop. If the scales were weighed the other way I'd still say the same thing ! That's why it was designed to be this way. All the topics are important, but quit letting political manuevering, narrow topic rhetoric, and other tactics think for you.

Haggling over which party has the biggest "stinkers" is not going to bring back all of those well-paid middle-class jobs that are now being outsourced to foreign factories as a result of President Bush pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada. This was the hidden agenda behind the Bush administration's true open borders policy.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13783.htm

It won't bring back the rights we have lost - privacy rights due to the Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act of 2006, which does away with habeas corpus, the right anybody to know why they have been imprisoned, provided the president does not think it should apply to you and declares you an enemy combatant.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15318240/

These are former U.S. Freedoms we are losing right and left because the Republican House keeps rubber-stamping the Administration's Big Brother tactics against average Americans.

It's also interesting that the Republican Speaker of the House's family owns one of the biggest HMOs in the country (no wonder the Republicans call universal healthcare socialist, huh? no profit for them), and we're heading into econonomic meltdown over the deficit and its impact on that Iraq war -- the one we're supposed to wait on.






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"It's definitely time to put the "checks and balances" back into our government. This carte blanche policy of letting everything go their (Rep) way has got to stop. If the scales were weighed the other way I'd still say the same thing ! That's why it was designed to be this way. All the topics are important, but quit letting political manuevering, narrow topic rhetoric, and other tactics think for you."

"These are former U.S. Freedoms we are losing right and left because the Republican House keeps rubber-stamping the Administration's Big Brother tactics against average Americans."

"It's also interesting that the Republican Speaker of the House's family owns one of the biggest HMOs in the country (no wonder the Republicans call universal healthcare socialist, huh? no profit for them), and we're heading into econonomic meltdown over the deficit and its impact on that Iraq war -- the one we're supposed to wait on."


Nice Rant. Perhaps you can enlighten us as to what the democrats intend to do about all this. I don't hear any NEW ideas from them other than let's drag the president through an impeachment trial, raise taxes, cut and run from Iraq and thus move the war on terror to the United States. Not much in that old playbook I want to vote for.

Sam, just because someone has not gone hunting since 1990 does not make him or her an anti gun person. The NRA should have endorsed both candidates but it is now being run by the Christian coalition with an ulterior motive. Do not worry Democrats are not going to take your guns and imprison you in a goolog.

I have not been hunting since 1989 but I still believe in the concept and rest assured I own more guns than most people will ever think necessary. The Democrats of Montana do not have nor never have had any intention of outlawing guns and your precious right to shoot back at those dangerous animals. Conservation is key.

I have to agree with Van on this one. I come from a long line of hunters and consider it to be an essential part of my upbringing and fully intend to do the same with my children. I havent actually hunted or had a liscense for almost 12 years now.

I continue to own and use firearms when I can but I am far, far to busy to enjoy the sport currently. I am definitely a proponent for responsible gun control but control that is sensible and not control just for the sake of control.

I'm not supporting Tester with my statements either, just pointing out that it would be a poor measuring stick to decide if someone was pro-gun or not. Anyone with a little sense knows that all candidates, no matter how legitimate they are, have to pander. The system has been set up that way unfortunately.

"and thus move the war on terror to the United States"
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There is good evidence the "The War on Terror" via 9/11 was an inside job, designed to terrify Americans into whole-heartedly agreeing to giving up their rights to Free Speech, Privacy and habeas corpus. Hitler did much the same thing in World War II to bring the German people around. The current government is betting that people would rather have security as opposed to freedoms.

http://www.loosechange911.com/

The central premise of Loose Change is that the United States Government was, at the very least, criminally negligent in allowing the attacks of September 11th, 2001 to occur.

However, when one looks deeper into the evidence, one might come to the startling conclusion that our own government might have been directly responsible for the attacks themselves.

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"Big collective National Yawn as all of our rights dissolve........."

Sam wrote:
>> Kind of funny, no matter what party you support.

No it's not funny in the least Sam . . . it's straight out of Sarah Brady's and PETA's playbook. It's one of the gravest threats currently posed by NGOs to our Second Amendment rights.

It sad and worrisome to see anyone lending support Brady & PETA just to take an election day cheap shot (or any other day for that matter).

The crew at the Brady Center figured out sometime ago that one the greatest vulnerabilities to our Second Amendment rights lay in the hunting argument.

They looked around and saw that many groups and individuals (Einsteins that they are) who advocated for the Second Amendment relied on the argument that hunting (and other shooting sports) justified their right keep and bear arms. So of course the Bradys and their supporters rushed out and teamed up with PETA and other such groups to campaign against hunting.

No hunting = No justification for the Second Amendment . . . get it Sam?

The Second Amendment has little or nothing to do with hunting - but it has everything to do with "the security of a free state" and our rights as citizens.

>>cut and run from Iraq and thus move the war on terror to the United States

Gee, Richard, I always thought you were a bit smarter than being another mouthpiece for Karl Rove (unlike Rick).

I think the Democrat's position is that a change from the current regime is needed, and evidently the military is starting to agree:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15552211/

If you gave it just a LITTLE thought, unlike the black-and-white boogiemen Republicans, you would figure out that "cut and run" is not the only alternative to "stay the course".

I tend to agree that it will be good to be back to having congress controlled by the opposite party that is in the presidency. A lot of Bill Clinton's fiscal responsibility was due to the fact that he couldn't get some of his big government stuff (socialized medicine) through the Republican congress, and apparently some of the Republican's fiscal responsibility came from the fact that Clinton would veto anything that went too far the other way.

I am hoping though, that the Democrats don't get the Senate, just because if they are so consumed with hatred for George Bush and nothing else right now that I'm afraid if they get control of both houses they will subject the country to a big ugly impeachment hearing. The last time we did that it accomplished nothing and created a circus for months.

And no matter whether or not Tester actually hunts, he can't look any more ridiculous carrying a shotgun than John Kerry did.

Or any more dangerous than Dick Cheney with a shotgun.....

I think impeachment would be the lesser of 2 evils,if the other choice involves living in the Bankrupt Police State the U.S. is becoming.

But it is still evil. We need other options.

Good God, people - take a pill!

The post about the Tester ad was simply to bring out that it was humorous. Nothing more. Geez!

Great article from a democrat.

[url]http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/11/the_only_issue_this_election_d.html[/url

Great article from a democrat.

http://www.realclearpolit...ion_d.html

> I think impeachment would be the lesser of 2 evils,if the other
> choice involves living in the Bankrupt Police State the U.S. is
> becoming.

Thank you for giving an example of my theory that Democrats are so consumed with their hatred of GWB and their inability to stop him from doing what he wants that they have become completely irrational.

What would be the point of impeaching Bush? It will take at least a year, it will be unlikely to remove him from office, and even if it does, he only had one year left, and is a lame duck anyway without a Republican majority in congress, or even with one given his current popularity. And replacing him with Cheney would do absolutely nothing. The only purpose would be to make Democrats feel better, at huge cost to the country. It would be the height of stupidity, and Karl Rove would have a FIELD DAY with pointing out how the Dems chose to be spiteful and wasted phenomenal amounts of time and money to no effect when they go into the election in 2008.

If the president violates the constitution that he/she has sworn to uphold, then he/she should be impeached, whether he is a Democrat or a Republican.

If you'd had Partridge instead of Duffin, you'd know these things

Go to impeachbush.org. They are talking impeachment of Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld. No way would they leave Cheney at the helm of such a sinking ship!

Tester doesn't need a hunting license, this is Montana! As long as you got a pickup truck, cup holder, and electric windows...

There is good evidence the "The War on Terror" via 9/11 was an inside job

Democrats don't need to fight a war on Terror because it was all a Bush conspiracy.

Completely crazy. Thanks for reminding us why we should:

Vote Republican

Because the inmates shouldn't run the asylum.

Rick:

You shouldn't make broad judgments based on what one person says.

If I voted after reading your myopic posts, I'd never vote for a Republican again!

Sam wrote:
>> Good God, people - take a pill!

Sam, why do you want to confiscate our guns?

Have you sold your soul to PETA . . . Or do you just hate the the Constitution?

As someone who lives and works in NYC, was a mile from the WTC when it went down, and lost friends, my only comment is that Bin Laden is still alive, while Americans die daily in Iraq. Perhaps a little less sloganeering and mysoginism and a little more thoughtful consideration of what is in the best interests of the entire US. See you hunting season.

Hey Hal,

Where in the hell do you get from anything I've said that I don't like guns or don't think that you should have a gun? I currently own 5 rifles and 3 handguns - and no SOB is going to take them from me either. Back off! It was a damn joke!!

mysoginism???

For historic context's sake, Bridgier, how many times do you reckon FDR should have been impeached?

Jack is Bin Laden in Iraq??

It is now 7:00pm MST, and this Republican has taken to his first drink

misogynism
Pronunciation Key -
[mi-soj-uh-niz-uhm
n : hatred of women

I don't get it. What does that have to do with guns and this thread?

"Bin Laden is still alive, while Americans die daily in Iraq. Perhaps a little less sloganeering and mysoginism and a little more thoughtful consideration of what is in the best interests of the entire US."

misogynism
Pronunciation Key -
[mi-soj-uh-niz-uhm
n : hatred of women

If you're going impeaching, don't forget all the democrats that voted for the war in Iraq and the patriot act.

Definitely a bad feeling to be a Republican tonight.

Sam wrote:
>> Good God, people - take a pill!

Sam, why do you advocate rampant drug use? Is it a part of your PETA-Brady inspired plot to confiscate our guns?

Sam wrote:
It was a damn joke!!

Sam, rampant drug use is no laughing matter.

Definitely a bad feeling to be a Republican tonight.

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Rick, I guess the terrorists won, huh?

SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE NANCY PELOSI!!!!

I just wanted to type those words for Rick's benefit...

Comrades! Let us rejoice in the defeat of the capitalist running dog lackeys!

The American people had a choice of voting Patriot vs. Terrorist yesterday...AND THE TERRORISTS WON!!!

Ice up those knees and lips boys, 'cause them prayer rugs are mighty hard.

I for one, welcome our new terrorist overlords.

Oooooh, I forgot to buy my prayer mat.

Wonder if they're on sale at Wally World???

Which direction is Mecca, anyway???

Bob, it's your lucky day. It looks Mr. Walton's emporium not only has a bargain on rugs, they also sell a "how to book", so you'll know how to use that mat.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4931426#Features+%26+Specifications
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4662784#About+the+Book

Hey, cool!

Made in the USA too!

Thanks, buddy!

I don't often read "news" blogs - given my druthers, I'll spend the time trying to find, read, and make sense of real news. But sometimes I find this Tim Graham person amusing (see below for citation & link). The shallowness of his understanding of history and his peculiar slant on contemporary politics is pretty amazing.

As near as I can understand it, Graham's most recent rant against Tester is an attempt to convince us that Jon is evil because he's a centrist moderate.

And we should believe this, Graham tell us, because:
--Jon honors and reflects the values of his grandparents and parents.
--Because he has worked for a living most of his life as a farmer and has scrambled to land those second and third jobs that most family farmers must have if they want to keep the farm in the family.
--Because of his appearance.
--Because he's an outspoken advocate of Second Amendment rights.
--Because he attends church.

Oh yes, according to Graham, Jon also evil because he doesn't agree with some of the most intrusive aspects of the Patriot Act - - see here for "the rest of the story" on that one:
http://data.opi.state.mt....SJ0019.htm

Dang! The truth is out . . .

But as near as I can tell, Graham's most danging indictment against Tester is simply because he was endorsed by the Daily Kos.

We are doomed folks - someone made to the Senate who received an unsolicited endorsement from web-based blog.

"N.Y. Times Hails Montana's Daily-Kos Democrat As A 'Prairie Pragmatist'
Tim Graham's blog
NEWSBUSTERS - Exposing & Combating The Liberal Media Bias
November 14, 2006
http://newsbusters.org/node/9070