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Posted by howdy (+4945) 9 years ago
Whats your choice for the GOP candidates?? I won't be voting for any of them, but just wondered...
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Posted by mckee (+391) 9 years ago
I like Rick Santorum and Ron Paul.
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Posted by howdy (+4945) 9 years ago
What reasons do you like them??
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Posted by nativemc (+915) 9 years ago
Right now it appears that the Republican candidates that are running are the Democatic Party's greatest assett.
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Posted by howdy (+4945) 9 years ago
Agree Native...
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Posted by Cheryl Pieters (+476) 9 years ago
Willard Romney and Dr. Ron Paul are the only 2 GOP Candidates that are seriously in the running any more. Gingrich and Santorum failed to get on the ballot in several states, which is going to cost them a total of 564 Delegates. The loss of those delegates will cost them the race no matter how well they do in the rest of the states whose ballots they actually got on. Newt Gingrich didn't even manage to get the 10,000 signatures he needed to get on the ballot in his home state.

http://teapartywpbfl.word...delegates/

I don't know how someone who is in politics and actually running for office could fail to see that this would be a problem. I imagine there are ulterior motives why they keep running: Book deals? Increase their name recognition to get speaking gigs and on talk shows? To get as many delegates as possible to take them away from Ron Paul's Presidential Bid?

Intersting article on the state of the GOP Party (and the politicians running this country in general).

http://www.agoracosmopoli...02073.html

Obama probably will win again, although he has let a lot of his former supporters down by signing the NDAA which allows for indefinite detention of Americans without a trial and basically nullifying broad swatchs of American's Rights under the U.S. Constitution. People that gave him some leeway on the wrecked economy are horrified at the number of our basic rights that he has trampled over the past few months. Among other things, he has:
- Signed the NDAA - an indefinite detention bill - into law
- Waged war on Libya without congressional approval
- Started a covert, drone war in Yemen
- Escalated the proxy war in Somalia
- Escalated the CIA drone war in Pakistan
- Will maintain a presence in Iraq even after "ending" war
- Sharply escalated the war in Afghanistan
- Secretly deployed US special forces to 75 countries
- Sold $30 billion of weapons to the dictatorship in Saudi Arabia
- Signed an agreement for 7 military bases in Colombia
- Touted nuclear power, even after the disaster in Japan
- Opened up deepwater oil drilling, even after BP disaster
- Did a TV commercial promoting "clean coal"
- Defended body scans and pat-downs at airports
- Signed the Patriot Act extension into law
- Continued Bush's rendition program

http://stpeteforpeace.org/obama.html

In addition, there is a ton of evidence that he is a product of the CIA, and as such, there is no way he can actually lose. (This is why his records were sealed after he took office-not because he was born in Kenya).
http://www.veteranstoday....-pedigree/

I think this is probably the last election with any semblence of "choice" we will ever have in the United States, at the rate things are going. I hope people realize how important it is.

http://divinecosmos.com/s...al-tyranny
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Posted by Dona Stebbins (+820) 9 years ago
The last klown to fall out of the GOP Klown Kar won't get my vote. This race should really be the end of the Republican Party as we know it - and good riddance. I will vote for President Obama.
My late father was a Republican and he would have been appalled at this ridiculous mess.
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Posted by Bridgier (+9224) 9 years ago
This one's for Cheryl (or any of the "We Need A Third Party" folks)

http://tbogg.firedoglake....n-anymore/

Let me see if I can explain it this way:

Every year in Happy Gumdrop Fairy-Tale Land all of the sprites and elves and woodland creatures gather together to pick the Rainbow Sunshine Queen. Everyone is there: the Lollipop Guild, the Star-Twinkle Toddlers, the Sparkly Unicorns, the Cookie Baking Apple-cheeked Grandmothers, the Fluffy Bunny Bund, the Rumbly-Tumbly Pupperoos, the Snowflake Princesses, the Baby Duckies All-In-A-Row, the Laughing Babies, and the Dykes on Bikes. They have a big picnic with cupcakes and gumdrops and pudding pops, stopping only to cast their votes by throwing Magic Wishing Rocks into the Well of Laughter, Comity, and Good Intentions. Afterward they spend the rest of the night dancing and singing and waving glow sticks until dawn when they tumble sleepy-eyed into beds made of the purest and whitest goose down where they dream of angels and clouds of spun sugar.

You don't live there.

Grow the procreate up.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5096) 9 years ago
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Here comes SANTORUM

This will end well!

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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6166) 9 years ago
The Lollipop Guild? I suspect they are illegal aliens.
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Posted by Cheryl Pieters (+476) 9 years ago
Every year in Happy Gumdrop Fairy-Tale Land all of the sprites and elves and woodland creatures gather together to pick the Rainbow Sunshine Queen.


Don't worry. I am not under the impression that we live in Happy Gumdrop Fairytale Land.

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Posted by Bridgier (+9224) 9 years ago
So your solution is....? Ron "State's Rights" Paul?
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Posted by Cheryl Pieters (+476) 9 years ago
I am trying to understand the thinking behind the great many Americans who have decided to vote for a mainstream politician in 2012. Ahhh, here's what you must be thinking!

(1) The American political establishment has done a super job keeping our country prosperous and our liberties protected, so I'm sure whatever candidate they push on me is probably a good one.

(2) Our country is basically bankrupt. Unfunded entitlement liabilities are in excess of twice world GDP. Therefore, it's a good idea to vote for someone who offers no specific spending cuts of any kind.

(3) Vague promises to cut spending are good enough for me, even though they have always resulted in higher spending in the past.

(4) I prefer a candidate who plays to the crowd, instead of having the courage to tell his audience things they may not want to hear.

(5) I am deeply concerned about spending. Therefore, I would like to vote for someone who supported Medicare Part D, thereby adding $7 trillion to Medicare's unfunded liabilities.

(6) I am opposed to bailouts. Therefore, I will vote for a candidate who supported TARP.

(7) The federal government is much too involved in education, where it has no constitutional role. Therefore, I will vote for a candidate who supported expanding the Department of Education and favored the No Child Left Behind Act.

(8) Even though practically everyone was caught by surprise in the 2008 financial crisis, which we are still reeling from, it's a good idea not to vote for the one man in politics who predicted exactly what was bound to unfold, all the way back in 2001.

(9) I am not impressed by a candidate who inspires people, especially young ones, to read the great economists and political philosophers.

(10) I am concerned about taxes. Therefore, I will not vote for the one candidate who has never supported a tax increase.

(11) I believe it is conservative to support bringing the Enlightenment to Afghanistan via military intervention.

(12) Even though I lost half my retirement portfolio when the economy crashed from the sugar high the Federal Reserve's artificially low interest rates put it on, I would like to vote for someone who is not really interested in the Federal Reserve.

(13) Even though 50 years of the embargo on Cuba did nothing to undermine Fidel Castro, and in fact handed him a perfect excuse for all the failures of socialism, I favor continuing this policy.

(14) If someone has a drug problem, prison rape is the best solution I can think of.

(15) Even though the Constitution had to be amended to allow for alcohol prohibition, and even though I claim to care about the Constitution, I don't mind that there's no constitutional authorization for the war on drugs, and I will punish at the polls anyone who favors the constitutional solution of returning the issue to the states.

(16) I believe only a "liberal" would think it was inhumane to keep essential items out of Iraq in the 1990s, even though one of the first people to protest this policy was Pat Buchanan.

(17) The Brookings Institution says Newt Gingrich's 1994 Contract with America was an insignificant nibbling around the edges. I favor people who support insignificant nibbling around the edges, as long as they occasionally trick me with a nice speech.

(18) I am deeply concerned about radical Islam, so it was a good idea to depose the secular Saddam Hussein - who was so despised by Islamists that Osama bin Laden himself offered to fight against him in the 1991 Persian Gulf War - and replace him with a Shiite regime friendly with Iran, while also bringing about a new Iraqi constitution that makes Islam the state religion and forbids any law that contradicts its teachings.

(19) Indefinite detention for U.S. citizens seems like nothing to be worried about, especially since our political class is so trustworthy that it could never abuse such a power.

(20) Following up on (19), I believe Thomas Jefferson was just being paranoid when he said, "In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution."

(21) Even though the war in Iraq was based on crude propaganda I would have laughed at if the Soviet Union had peddled it, and even though the result has been hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, four million people displaced, trillions of dollars down the drain, tens of thousands of serious injuries among American servicemen and an epidemic of suicide throughout the military, not to mention the ruination of America's reputation in the world, I see no reason to be skeptical when the same people who peddled that fiasco urge me to support yet another war as my country is going bankrupt.

(22) I do not trust the media. But when the media tells me I am not to support Ron Paul, who says things he is not allowed to say, I will comply.

(23) I know the media will smear or marginalize anyone who would really fix this country. But when the media smears and marginalizes Ron Paul, I will draw no conclusion from this.

(24) I want to be spoken to like this: "My fellow Americans, you are the awesomest of the awesome, and the only reason anyone in the world might be unhappy with your government is because of your sheer awesomeness."

(25) I think it's a good idea to vote for Mitt Romney, whose top three donors are Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse, and Morgan Stanley, and a bad idea to vote for Ron Paul, whose top three donors are the U.S. Army, the U.S. Navy, and the U.S. Air Force.

(26) I have not been exploited enough by the cozy relationship between large financial firms and the U.S. government, and I would like to see it continue.

(Shamefully plagerized from Tom Woods:http://www.tomwoods.com/b...ly-saying/)
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Posted by howdy (+4945) 9 years ago
The more I dig into Ron Paul, the yuckier he looks...Could never vote for him...he would have seniors starving for one...
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Posted by Bob Netherton II (+1906) 9 years ago
RICHMOND, IN-Self-proclaimed strict constitutionalist and freethinker Rick Crawford told reporters Monday he is supporting Ron Paul in the 2012 Republican presidential primaries because of the way the candidate looks people directly in the eye, doesn't mince words, and tells it like it will never, ever be in a million years. "Ron cuts right through the fat and doesn't sugarcoat anything when he talks about policies that would be absolutely impossible to implement, like abolishing the federal income tax, eliminating Medicare, or putting the nation's currency back on the gold standard," Crawford said as he pounded a hand-painted "Ron Paul 2012" sign in his front lawn. "He's not afraid to give Americans no-nonsense straight talk about his completely delusional fantasy world. That's why I'm part of the highly unlikely Ron Paul revolution." Sources close to Crawford's family said his wife supports Mitt Romney because of the way he tells it like people want to hear it.
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Posted by Ag (+58) 9 years ago
Sounds like Ron Paul isn't too different than Obama was 4 years ago, then - "He's not afraid to give Americans no-nonsense straight talk about his completely delusional fantasy world." I'm surprised he isn't doing better.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5096) 9 years ago
Yeah, let's go back to the gold standard. Procreateing idiots.
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Posted by Cheryl Pieters (+476) 9 years ago
Well, at the rate things are going right now, when World War III starts (mostly because the U.S. and Isreal are movingin to take the oil reserves away from Iran and Syria and China and Russia are moving to block it) I don't think that Social Security will be very well funded anyway.

http://www.firstpost.com/...html


Bush and Obama have already been using social Security funds up, so the epeople who rely on it are already screwed. The reason the Social Security Trust Fund is expected to dry up in the next 3 years is because the money has been used to pay for tax cuts, the war in Iraq, and many other programs.

Social Security is Short of Funds Because Politicians Spent It

http://seniorjournal.com/...sSpent.htm

When it comes to Social Security and Medicare, the federal government simply won't be able to keep its promises in the future. That is the reality every American should get used to, despite the grand promises of Washington reformers. Our entitlement system can't be reformed--it's too late. And the Medicare prescription drug bill is the final nail in the coffin--costing at least $1 trillion in the first decade alone, and much more in following decades as the American population grows older

However, I am not sure why the Mainstream Media is trying to point out that "Ron Paul wants to take Social Security away from the people" other than that they are afraid he might get in there and take the money coming into their war coffers and protect it so that it can actually be paid back to the people who paid into it.

"Ron Paul: I'll Preserve Social Security and Medical Benefits for the Elderly"
http://www.indyinasia.com...e-elderly/

Here are his policies spelled out (as opposed to the scare tactics from the Corporate/Fed controlled Mainstream Media):

http://www.issues2000.org...curity.htm

Mitt Romney and the Republicans want to eliminate Medicare and Social Security as we know them and hand them over to Wall Street with a reckless privatization scheme.
Romney is a staunch supporter of Congressman Paul Ryan's radical budget plan to end Medicare and Medicaid and dramatically increase health care costs for seniors struggling to make ends meet.

http://www.csmonitor.com/...d-Medicare
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Posted by Cheryl Pieters (+476) 9 years ago
...and as far as the Gold standard goes-the rest of the world is moving into it right now, which will make the "play money" printed by the Fed (the US Dollar) irrelevent. A lot of our recent wars against the oil rich companies has been because they have wanted to demand payment for oil in another currency (usually gold based) other than the US dollar.



Why so you think currency prices are shooting through the roof as the value of the US Dollar plummets on the world markets. India has now offered to pay for oil in gold, and China has followed their lead. Do you think the dollar is going to hold up long against that?

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/222857.html

Now I am starting to wonder who thinks they are living in lollypop fairsprinkles land.
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr. (+14970) 9 years ago
Just like Obama, Ron Paul, should hell (if there is such a place) freeze over and he gets elected, won't be able to govern anymore effectively. Just like the old 3-cornered milking stool, all three branches of government need to carry their own weight to avoid a national face-plant. Congress has not carried there weight for at least 12 years.

[This message has been edited by Richard Bonine, Jr. (2/9/2012)]
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Posted by Bob L. (+5096) 9 years ago
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Posted by howdy (+4945) 9 years ago
I am going to have to vote a straight Democratic ticket (altho it will probably kill me) if this mess keeps up, only to keep the others out of office....I don't like a lot of things about the Democrats, but they far exceed the GOP nightmare...I will be happy one day when I can just vote for someone instead of voting against someone else...
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Posted by Amorette F. Allison (+1906) 9 years ago
Aman, howdy. I would love to vote FOR someone. I haven't done that in years.
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Posted by Cheryl Pieters (+476) 9 years ago
Crazy like Ross Perot. Remember how the Mainstream Media portrayed him as crazy? What do you think now?



Looks Like Ross Perot Was Right About The "Giant Sucking Sound"

Perot is famous (among other things) for his statement during the 1992 presidential campaign that if NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) was not a two way street would create a "giant sucking sound" of jobs going south to the cheap labor markets of Mexico.

However, the goods balance of trade for the U.S. with Mexico has been negative and steadily growing over the years. In 2010 it amounted to $61.6 billion, which was 9.5% of the total goods trade deficit last year.

So Perot has been vindicated in his opinion; expanded free trade has not been accompanied by an increase in jobs in the U.S. relative to the vast numbers of jobs created in the rest of the world as NAFTA became just a stepping stone on the pathway to global commerce.

Just how much the giant vacuum has been collecting has been calculated at GEI Analysis. The results are shown in the following two graphs. The first shows manufacturing jobs lost each year starting with 1992 that are equivalent to the U.S. goods trade deficits over the past 19 years. The second shows the cumulative job loss, amounting to almost 29 million jobs by the end of 2010.



http://articles.businessi...e-job-loss

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A primer on the mainstream Media:

In 1983, there were 50 different independent media companies in the United States. By 2004, this number had reduced to five key players: Time Warner, Disney, News Corporation (FOX), Bertelsmann of Germany and Viacom (formerly CBS).

Ben Bagdikian expertly lays out all the proof for this media in his updated 2004 edition of The New Media Monopoly.

http://benbagdikian.net/

These five huge corporations - Time Warner, Disney, Murdoch's News Corporation, Bertelsmann of Germany, and Viacom (formerly CBS) - own most of the newspapers, magazines, books, radio and TV stations, and movie studios of the United States..

These five are not just large - though they are all among the 325 largest corporations in the world - they are unique among all huge corporations: they are a major factor in changing the politics of the United States, and they condition the social values of children and adults alike.

SIX CORPORATIONS DOMINATE THE UNITED STATES' MEDIA

The media conglomerates have been a major force in creating conservative and far right politics in the country.
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Posted by Cheryl Pieters (+476) 9 years ago
Could Mitt Romney be America's first Hispanic president?

Romney's father, George, was born in Chihuahua, Mexico. Que? You didn't know that Mitt Romney was half-Mexican? It's true. In fact, if he makes it to the White House, in addition to becoming the first Mormon in the Oval Office, he could also be the nation's first Hispanic president.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/0...index.html

Mitt Romney, the first Mexican-American president?
http://www.csmonitor.com/...-president
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr. (+14970) 9 years ago
Who cares? Why are you making race and religion an issue?
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Posted by howdy (+4945) 9 years ago
IMO, altho I wouldn't vote for Mittens because of his platform issues, I don't care if he is Morman or Hispanic...shouldn't be brought up, as I consider that racist...
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11808) 9 years ago
Fifty years ago, Mitt was a 14-year-old in a photo op with his grinning dad, who had just taken leave from his corporate job to run for governor of Michigan.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5096) 9 years ago
Poopstain was in North Dakota yesterday. I could smell him all the way from Tioga.

Here's what the stupid procreateer said about Iran - I saw it on the local news last night:

"Folks, you've got energy here. They're going to bother you. They'll bother you, because you are a very key and strategic resource for this country. No one is safe. No one is safe from asymmetric threats of terrorism."
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+17485) 9 years ago
Hmmmm.....using that graphic as a voting guide would mean that I should vote for Newt.

Plus....what partisan hack came up with that scoring? I mean, c'mon.....Newtie and Mittens really are strongly opposed to gun ownership???? Give me a freakin' break.

[This message has been edited by Gunnar Emilsson (2/17/2012)]
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+17485) 9 years ago
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Posted by Cheryl Pieters (+476) 9 years ago
If you connect the dots, Ron Paul is the only viable GOP Candidate person left. Mitt Romney is not a "natural Born Citizen" and therefore cannot be elected President per the Constitution, and Mitt and Rick Failed to get on the ballot in several states, which cost them a total of 564 delegates.

http://teapartywpbfl.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/newt-rick-unelectable-failed-to-register-in-states-ba......llots-totaling-564-delegates/

As for those of your friends and relatives who tell you Ron Dr. Paul is "unelectable", you might point out to them who the "unelectable" candidates actually are!!


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Mitt Romney's Father Was A Mexican Citizen When Mitt Was Born.

It is absolutely clear that Mitt Romney is NOT a Natural Born Citizen unless he can prove that George Romney gained citizenship from naturalization prior to Mitt's birth in 1947.
the U.S. Constitution's clause: "No person except a natural-born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible for the office of President."

Since George W. Romney was born in Mexico, son of the head elder (Gaskell Romney), there for about 3 decades before his birth, said elder must have been a Mexican citizen, therefore, could not bestow American citizenship, let alone "natural born" to George W. Romney. Since George W. Romney was therefore NOT A natural born American citizen, he could not bestow natural born to his son Mitt Romney. It does not matter what state Mitt Romney was born in.

http://politicalvelcraft.org/2012/01/28/mitt-romneys-father-was-a-mexican-citizen-when-mitt-was-born/

(If you want to label me as racist for quoting the Constitution, so be it)

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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr. (+14970) 9 years ago
If you connect the dots you will draw a scare-a-crow. Romney isn't a citizen so we should vote for Ron Paul? That is logical.

The truth is there is a high likelihood that NONE of the four candidates left will be the nominee. I think the republicans will end up with a brokered convention.

I am going to write-in Wendy for President and Gunnar for VP.

[This message has been edited by Richard Bonine, Jr. (2/21/2012)]
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+17485) 9 years ago
Since George W. Romney was born in Mexico, son of the head elder (Gaskell Romney), there for about 3 decades before his birth, said elder must have been a Mexican citizen, therefore, could not bestow American citizenship, let alone "natural born" to George W. Romney


The fatal flaw in your line of reasoning, Cheryl is the phrase "said elder must have been a Mexican citizen" is incorrect. The Mexican government viewed those Mormon polygamists as American squatters who were never granted citizenship. Its like illegal immigrants in the U.S.....do we grant them or their descendents citizenship just they have been here for so many years? Heck, no.

For someone fond of quoting the Constitution, you really ought to try reading it sometime.
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Posted by Bridgier (+9224) 9 years ago
Ahem.


14th Amendment to the Constitution

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


The constitution doesn't seem to agree with your Paulanity. No unicorn for you.


I understand Cheryl, that you feel disappointed with Mr. Obama, but that doesn't mean that voting for the person who agrees with you on a minority of issues is any better.

[This message has been edited by Bridgier (2/21/2012)]
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Posted by Denise Selk (+1672) 9 years ago
Not again. The only upside I can see is, perhaps, both parties would be placing "illegals" on the ballots, so we can finally stop talking about this birth certificate and naturalization nonsense.
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr. (+14970) 9 years ago
Denise...
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11808) 9 years ago
Ron Paul was born on Mars so he can't qualify.
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Posted by howdy (+4945) 9 years ago
After listening to some of these GOP idiots lately about womens rights all I can say is:


NO one can tell me what to do or not do with my lady parts. I even let them cross the street by themselves and run with scissors if they feel like it.
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Posted by AshleyDawn (+348) 9 years ago
Bridgier, I think I love you after, 'No unicorns for you.'
Denise, that was wonderful. Thank you for the laugh.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5096) 9 years ago
Poopstain 36%, Romney 26% per the latest Gallup poll.

I'm certain the Republicans will prevail in November if they nominate a "real conservative" like Poopstain.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
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Posted by Bob L. (+5096) 9 years ago
LOL Howdy
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Posted by Amorette F. Allison (+1906) 9 years ago
Yup, I want government out of people's lives except where their genitals are concerned. Typical hypocrite.
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Posted by howdy (+4945) 9 years ago
Another Santorum insane statement:

http://www.freewoodpost.c...ith-satan/
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6166) 9 years ago
[This message has been edited by Wendy Wilson (2/22/2012)]
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Posted by Amorette F. Allison (+1906) 9 years ago
YAY! Howdy. That is a great comic.
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Posted by AshleyDawn (+348) 9 years ago
Howdy, I really like all of the stuff you have written on this thread. What better place than here to put this into pictures for people that otherwise wouldn't understand. Well done!
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+17485) 9 years ago
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Posted by Denise Selk (+1672) 9 years ago
This one of Gunnar's most deserves my biting wit. Must....refrain...from...snide...comment. Lol.
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