Discuss.

He receives a regular paycheck from the goverment while doing nothing to earn it. I can't think of anything more socialist than that.

Bob-

Are you mocking me?

No, but Bob L, Gunnar, and Kelly are. Every penny I get for retirement I worked for and earned. Why don't you go after your so called 1% or go demonstrate with your Occupy friends that's cost the gov't millions. You'd fit in with that bunch low lifes just fine. In fact go after Obama, he got a billion in his git re-elected bank account. He wants to spread the wealth, tell him to spread some of his. Or is it spread everyone elses wealth and leave his alone ? While your'e at it tell the unions to spread some of their wealth. Maybe if you would do something istead of spreading a bunch of crap you'd have something to do in life except complain.

While your'e at it tell the unions to spread some of their wealth.

I think it is a great idea! I say we start with the United States Chamber of Commerce!

Every penny I get for retirement I worked for and earned.

You have the procreateing gall to imply that I have not worked for anything in life? That is low you troglodyte. Crawl back to the ooze you came from. I've worked just as hard as you have. I've earned my SSDI, because I paid into it (handsomely I might add). I also paid for private (UNUM) long-term disability insurance out of my own pocket. I earned the benefit. Procreate you!

Kelly, I seem to have hit a sore spot with you. The truth hurts ? I never said you didn't work for anything. I said I earned every penny of my retirement....korkyII

Ummmm......I have never received a paycheck from the Federal Government since I worked at the Miles City VA in 1979 washing dishes for minimum wage. And I was very, very happy that the Federal Government thought to see fit to give me a minimum wage washing dishes. Because I like to work for a living, unlike you, you deadbeat MF.

Where DO you get your silly ass facts from, Mr. Korkster?

IF INDEED, you were a true American, you would send every dollar back that the government sends you, to help lower the deficit. And you would work until you drop, then rely upon the charity of your church to suckle you until you croak.

That is what you have been preaching to all of us for the last couple of years. Why don't you walk the walk, instead of talk the talk?

Why don't you get your silly ass facts right Gunnar. Why dont you send some money to the gov't to help out ? I pay taxes every year, thats more than 47 pct of everyone else. Are you part of the 47 pct of americans who don't ?.....korkyII

I've been walking a lot longer than you have Gunnar. I never said you worked for the gov't. I really don't care how you get your money. Bob L put this post up and you and Kelly responded to it. Seems you are the ones stirring crap. By slamming someone, it just shows how intelligent you all are. Kelly has admitted He's a socialist and you two posted agreements with him......korkyII

Korky:

I was wondering, how does it feel to be a drain on society?

To take more from the government and society at large than you could ever contribute?

Do you have trouble looking at yourself in the mirror?
Or do you laugh because you got over on the system?
Or do you convince yourself that you actually worked hard for everything you took from the government your whole life?


I think I know the answer.

I pay taxes every year, thats more than 47 pct of everyone else.

True, unless you count FICA, sales tax, property taxes, etc, etc, etc. But other than that TOTALLY TRUE!!!

Kelly has admitted He's a socialist

If you believe that, you either have very poor reading skills, or don't understand nuance.

Kelly, I refer you to your post "why I'm a Socialist".

Thanks for proving my point.

Bridgier, fyi, I do pay fica taxes and property taxes in Montana. There is no sales tax here or I would pay that also. I also pay taxes on my Military retirement as do most all of the retired military. I paid taxes on my military income when I was on active duty, I also paid fica when I was on active duty. So watch what you criticize about the military paying taxes (active duty or retired)....korkyII

Korky,

What exactly is your pension paying you to do? Weren't you paid during your active service?

Mary B, A pension is just that a pension. It is the Gov'ts retirement plan for those who made a career of the Military Service. At the time I retired you received 50% of your basic pay for 20 yrs service and 75 % for 30 yrs service. It's not like our senators, congressmen and president who receive a very substantial retirement, even after one term in office plus free health care for life. Retireing from the military is no different than retireing from a company in the private sector. You work x amount of years, you get x amount of retirement......korkyII

So, you were paid at the time of your service for the work you did, as you should have been. You are now getting paid to do nothing.

Most private companies no longer have pension plans, because they can't afford it.

It seems paying people to do nothing doesn't make a lot of economic sense.

Except I wasn't talking about you, korky... I was referring to the "53%" slander that you were spreading. Jesus doesn't like liars.

Welfare Mom wrote:

It's not like our senators, congressmen and president who receive a very substantial retirement, even after one term in office plus free health care for life.

So, Korky, you're a crook just like the former Presidents and Congresspeople who take advantage of the system.

I understand now.

KorkyII wrote:

Bridgier, fyi, I do pay fica taxes and property taxes in Montana. There is no sales tax here or I would pay that also. I also pay taxes on my Military retirement as do most all of the retired military.

Listen, korkers, you've missed the point entirely. Bridgier means there is no 47% who pay no taxes. Everyone who is employed pays Social Security and Medicare taxes. If they own property they pay property tax. If they live in a state with a sales tax (most states) then they pay that as well. He wasn't casting aspersions on you.

But Bob L. was and I have. Korky gets the point. He's never going to admit it, but he does.

He wasn't casting aspersions on you.

Well, I don't know if I'd go that far...

So, Bob L., That makes the entire military crooks ? Bridgier, I did not start the post, Bob L. did and just from the subject of it it is slanderous. I have every right to defend myself. And fyi I am part of the 53% that do pay taxes and I am proud of that, and the fact that I made the military a career, though it seems some of you aren't even proud that we even have a military even though it is that military that allows us life, liberty and the persuit of happiness. Quite frankly without our military we probably wouldn't be setting at our computers, (or even have one), being able to say some of the things I read on this website without fear of reprisal from our gov't.......Some of you show your colors rather well here and it isn't red, white, and blue.......korkyII

you are truly hopeless korky. Slow down, quit hyperventilating over the title of the thread, and READ what has been written. Then, READ it again and add some COMPREHENSION as well.

Rehberg will appreciate your all-american vote, that's for sure.

Korky: I seem to have hit a sore spot with you. The truth hurts, huh?

Korky, you are the one that has a problem with others sucking off the government teat.

You were paid for your service, during your time of service.

You continue to be paid for services you no longer provide.

This would be considered sucking off of the government teat.

The fact that people are pointing out this disparity does not mean others are not proud of our military and their service.

It means that others find you to be a hypocrite.

Why? Because you begrudge others what you receive yourself.

You can split hairs all you like and claim that you deserve what you earn, while others do not, but, in the end, it is all the same.

You are being paid for doing nothing.

End of Story.

Bob L. I might agree with you except we'd both be wrong...kokyII

Mary B. What you are saying is that all retired military are sucking off the gov't teat ? If thats the case then all of the civil service workers that actually keep our gov't running are sucking off the gov't teat when they retire. All the teachers in the nation are all sucking off the gov't teat when they retire. Plus all the disabled who are receiving SSDI, and the list goes on and on. It sounds to me You are just pissed because you didn't find one to latch on to. (or maybe you did and aren't telling ).....korkyII

So Korky, you are pretty active on here tonight. Why not mossy over to the other threads and tell us why business owners forming a union is good where workers forming a union is bad?

Not one little bit. I don't have a problem with any single one of those groups. Of the two of us, who's made it very clear he has a problem with "Socialistic" behavior?

Let's not even begin to discuss how phone service ever made it to Valley County (which is where I believe Korky lives, I may be wrong) in the first place.

PROCREATE SOCIALISM!!! WOLVERINES!!!

You are the ones that accused me of possibly being a socialist, which is very incorrect. If you would really like to know I am quite fond of free enterprise, the right to work and to live life with as little intervention from the Gov't as possible. I did not serve to help protect the socialist states of america. Now chew that up, poop on it call it what ever you want, you have that right. When I served I helped our military preserve that right......korkyII

Tonight I received a phone call from a friend of mine, who happens to be a veteran. The caller was concerned that the people on MC.com are bashing vets. I want to assure our vets that is not the case. Myself, I feel that vets don't get nearly enough benefits.

What people are trying to point out is not that vets are sucking off the government teat, but that Korky is being is hypocrite.

GO VETS!

Exactly. Go Vets!

Well, the posting are not very clear....and am not surprised that vets are confused. I would like to say more, but need to go to bed. It is difficult to even figure out who Korky is???!~

very easy actually

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Korky seems to dearly love hiding behind the American Flag...Every time he mentions his service to the country, I hear them cueing "God Bless America" in the background...When Bush was President, he did the same thing and made it seem very unamerican to complain about the Iraq war...I am always suspicious of people that do this...as if what they have to say won't stand on it's own but has to be wrapped in the flag for people to listen....to that I say.....[b]BALONEY[b]

Howdy you are the one that's BALONEY everytime you put something on here you prove it. Kelly I wish you'd make up your mind if you are a socialist or not. On one hand you say you are and on the other you say you arent. ,,,,,korkyII

Given the tone of this thread, Bob L must have lost a poopload of money on Pittsburgh last weekend. Just say'n

Actually, Denver (+8.5) was my POD (play o' the day) on Sunday. Didn't have enough guts to play Denver on the money line, that would have been nice.

Lifelong Government Employee wrote:

You are the ones that accused me of possibly being a socialist, which is very incorrect. If you would really like to know I am quite fond of free enterprise, the right to work and to live life with as little intervention from the Gov't as possible.

Smell the irony.

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Kelly I wish you'd make up your mind if you are a socialist or not. On one hand you say you are and on the other you say you arent.

Korky. I wish you could learn to read. The only place I definitively said I was a Socialist was in the title to the thread. You know, the thing you use to grab peoples' attention. If you actually bother to read what I've written, you'll see I've been completely consistent.

Actually, Denver (+8.5) was my POD (play o' the day) on Sunday. Didn't have enough guts to play Denver on the money line, that would have been nice.

FYI, Richard, Denver is +13.5 points at New England. Denver would have to lose by 14 or more for an point spread bet to lose.

Money line = +525, meaning $100 would get you $625 if Denver won the game straight up.

again Korky says wrong without any explanation...typical for someone that is wrong LOL...

"live life with as little intervention from the Gov't as possible." What has "little intervention" brought to the tax payer.

1. ENRON
2. MT Power- built by tax dollars- gutted by Goldman Sachs
3. Economic crash
4. Followed by higher prices for everything AKA inflation
5. Cheaper oil- not
6. Two wars and a dept
7. House lending scandal- see "Margin Call"-the movie
8. Death to American boys- fighting for democracy/oil- I mean fighting to keep the dollar solvent.

9. Systematic persecution of the middle class and unions.

10. Lastly- We have division and disenfranchisement. When the ignorant right (AKA tea baggers and conservatives) and the ignorant left (AKA pinko, commie, leftist) decide that enough is enough- leave the party of choice and join together to destroy the noblemen. Then peace and harmony will reign for the American middle class.

Viva La Proletariat

Government intervention is great as long as you aren't infringing on Kork's rights.