Please don't tell me you are voting for this guy.



Rick Perry Event Pastor Predicts Coming "Prison Camps" For Jews

According to Kansas City-based International House of Prayer founder and evangelist Mike Bickle-who played a major role in the August 6th "The Response" prayer event that served as the de facto kickoff event for Rick Perry's presidential bid-in the near future Jews who refuse to convert to Christianity and move to Israel will be pursued by "hunters" sent by God and can expect to be thrown into "prison camps" and "death camps".

http://blogs.alternet.org...-for-jews/

Obama's Health Care Plan Was Based on Romney's, Investigation Shows


President Barack Obama based his health care law directly on a similar law passed in Massachusetts when Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney was governor, an NBC News investigation released on Tuesday found.

According to White House visitor logs, three health care experts who advised Romney in 2006 met with senior officials in the Obama administration on at least a dozen occasions in 2009, when Obama was developing his health care plan.

When it was passed in 2006, the Massachusetts law was heralded as a historic breakthrough, and it was seen as one of the crowning accomplishments of Romney's term as governor. Romney threw his full support behind the law, and, interestingly, he was the biggest proponent of an individual mandate: the most controversial provision of the national health care law.

The individual mandate requires every citizen to buy health insurance to avoid a tax penalty. Romney's advisers -- the same experts who met with White House officials in 2009 -- were hesitant about that provision. But according to Gruber, the MIT economist, "Governor Romney clearly stated that he believed without an individual mandate, healthy people could just free-ride on the system."

Interestingly, although Romney has maintained adamantly on the campaign trail that he never intended the Massachusetts health care plan to become a model for national policy, the first edition of his book, "No Apology," said of the plan, "We can accomplish the same thing for everyone in the country." He deleted that line in the paperback edition.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry, one of Romney's opponents for the Republican presidential nomination, released an attack ad on Monday that highlighted the deletion of that line.

"When it comes to government-mandated health care, there is no difference between Mitt Romney and President Obama," a spokesman for Perry said in a press release.

Gruber argued that, despite Romney's attempts to distance himself, his efforts in Massachusetts contributed in a major way to the passage of the national health care law.

"I think he is the single person most responsible for health care reform in the United States," he told NBC. "I'm not trying to make a political position or a political statement -- I honestly feel that way. If Mitt Romney had not stood up for this reform in Massachusetts ... I don't think it would have happened nationally. So I think he really is the guy with whom it all starts."

http://m.ibtimes.com/obam...28941.html

[This message has been edited by Cheryl Pieters (10/23/2011)]

amorette, odly enough Dr. louann Brizendine believes men think about sex every 52 seconds. She made no distinction between rep or dem...

so to correct you i would have to say that MEN are obsessed with sex...as we should be..

go forth, be fruitful and replenish the earth...God

and so we are...trying anyway...

you women need to get on board though...she believes women only think about sex once a day...

not sure where she gets her STATISTICS but according to her, sexual obsession is a male female issue not a rep dem issue.

Cheryl, there are two things I can say with confidence:

1) Jesus shouldn't be my wife's gynecologist
2) The Huffington Post shouldn't be my children's immunologist.

There are plenty of legitimate issues to discuss and demand and accounting for without wandering into the fever-swamp of '-erism', no matter what the variety.

I have to agree with Bridgier...stick with the big stuff...

Cheryl, I appreciate your passion but few folks here have the patience or the attention span to read your uber-posts. A few paragraphs of the pith and a link would be more likely to be read.

An issue everyone seems to be missing over this HPV vaccine thing is why a supposed libertarian, highly moral, 'don't bug me, guvmint', individual like Perry would mandate it (or even bring it up, for that matter).

The answer has more to do with the fact that Perry is in cahoots with the manufacturer(who would have loved to see this vaccine given out universally across the US for only altruistic reasons and nothing to do with profits).
http://www.kbtx.com/home/...46651.html

Anyone criticizing the vaccine for its usefulness or safety are probably arguing from the left and those arguing that Perry really gave a crap about all of those girls as opposed to doing a favor for rich buddies is probably arguing from the right.

I've also noticed no 'baggers(or anyone else from the right) have mentioned who they like in the primary so far.

[This message has been edited by Bob Netherton II (10/24/2011)]

I've also noticed no 'baggers(or anyone else from the right) have mentioned who they like in the primary so far.

I am sure that in due time Captain Google and the 101st keyboard squadron will make an appearance.

bob your assumption that someone on the left gives a rats behind for some young ladies safety is hillarius...your government life jacket is gonna choke you one day, sucka........

and youve just been teabagged again...

People Will Look Back At This GOP Field And Say "What Idiots"

Joe Scarborough: "This is lunacy. This is the sort of thing not so many years from now, Richard Haass, people will look back at these candidates and just say, 'what idiots. What total, absolute idiots.'".
http://www.realclearpolit...diots.html

If getting an idiotic wingnut response to anything I post is being teabagged. I'm all for it. I'm guessing my post, as simple as it is, went right over your pinhead, bigsky.

How about Hermie Cain? He's into numerology. You teabaggers like poop like that don't you, bigsky?

Wendy-very few of the people here click on links. I have seen people launch these huge arguments over a post which makes it clear they didn't click on the link and read the article in the first place. Maybe they have slow, old computers or maybe they have dial up that takes forever to load-I save them the trouble of ignoring the link so they have no excuse to go way off in left field on the discussion.

I think the fact that Merck gave Rick Perry's campaign $380,000 and a short time later he ordered manditory shots to be given to schoolgirls is telling about how he can be bought off by Big Pharm.

http://www.washingtonpost...story.html

"It's very clear that crony capitalism could likely have been the cause" of Perry's decision to issue the vaccine order, Bachmann said Tuesday on NBC's "Today" show, alleging that the drug may be "dangerous" for young girls. Former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, who until now has been generally supportive of Perry in public remarks, joined in the criticism.

bob, you put way too much faith in your government...they lie cheat and steal from you...what was that song...obamas clown? no it was kathys clown...well bob you are obamas clown.

Wendy-very few of the people here click on links. I have seen people launch these huge arguments over a post which makes it clear they didn't click on the link and read the article in the first place. Maybe they have slow, old computers or maybe they have dial up that takes forever to load-I save them the trouble of ignoring the link so they have no excuse to go way off in left field on the discussion.

I hate to break it to you but they don't read your walls of text either, or I certainly don't. Try making the point in your own words rather than copy pasting huge amounts of other people's that no one will read. If what you say is compelling enough, you might just get us to click your link to learn more.

Damn....who woulda thunk Aaron listens to the Everly Brothers???

I have a new found respect for you, my knuckledragging friend.

You're jumping to conclusions. aaron likes the Reba version.

Levi Said: I hate to break it to you but they don't read your walls of text either, or I certainly don't.

Levi, I am not a writer, and have two very young children that need my attention, so the chances of me re-writing those already professionally and well thought out articles for this thread were rather slim in the first place.

....and granted, some people won't click on the links OR read my "walls of text", because they choose to just watch Television and get all of their infomation hand picked and spun by the Mainstream media outlets, rather than read and think for themselves. Those aren't necessarily the people that I am interested in trying to reach, as I have met plenty of people who are more or less brainwashed into thinking they know it all and don't want to be confused with the facts. So don't worry, I didn't really expect you to read anything anyway and am not "disappointed" if YOU don't.

Those aren't necessarily the people that I am interested in trying to reach, as I have met plenty of people who are more or less brainwashed into thinking they know it all and don't want to be confused with the facts. So don't worry, I didn't really expect you to read anything anyway and am not "disappointed" if YOU don't.

Just an observation, but if you believe Levi to be one of "those people", it's fairly clear you have never read anything he has written either.

Levi is one of the posters on here that is definitely "middle of the road" in most things IMO...He, I believe, is a working rancher, and really doesn't have time to read everything...I understand your passion, Cheryl, but don't start arguing about little piddley stuff when it is the big stuff that counts like wall street and jobs, etc...Not everyone has the energy and strength to read and post stuff they are passionate about...I sure don't have the energy or strength due to my health...What I am trying to say is Levi is one of the good guys on here...just lighten up a tad...Please and thank you...p.s., I enjoy your posts about the occupy wallstreet stuff, and don't like the internal arguments as I refuse (if you have noticed) to argue on here at all as I consider it a waste of effort...thanks Cheryl...

Yeah, I take it back. Levi is very well read and intelligent. He and I don't always see eye to eye but I respect his position and he defends it admirably. I had a kid and a dog jumping on me as I finished typing that and I meant to go back and change it, but then there was a crisis caused by two wild kiddos, a crazy Australian Shepard, a wading pool full of dirty water that somehow spilled all over the place, a new rug and a bunch of mud and I didn't get around to it. However, a lot of people that complain about long posts or having to read stuff aren't the type who would read the articles on the links before arguing anyway, and guess that's what I was trying to get across. I will cut down on the posts because all I was trying to do in the first place was make people aware of what is going on (I think in the long run it is going to pan out to be a big deal-maybe history changing). We'll see.

I agree about the long run and history making potential...at least I hope so....it is so very important to heal this nation of this strangle hold of the 1%....

I disagree. Levi is a bunghole. He used to post the winners of HIS monthly trivia quiz here, until my sister started kicking Bridgier's (a notorious teabagger) ass the last two months. Thence he went silent.

As long as things are going HIS way, all is well in the world. Well, the rest of us 99% beg to differ.

In fairness to "Levi" he and his "Carhartt" "Lee" have been busy riding the "Rockies" as "Wranglers". Yup, it's a jean joke.

Herman Cain: Karl Rove Deliberately Trying to `Damage' Me

http://www.theblaze.com/s...amage-me/

Herman Cain is a Motivational Speaker. He has no interest in foreign policy, there is no substance to his words, and he has no real ideas or workable common sense strategies. If the Koch Brothers can get him elected they will use him to break the Unions and tweak Policies to put more money in their pockets like they used Scott Walker in Wisconsin.

Rick Perry On Increasing Income Inequality: 'I Don't Care About That'

Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry says he wants a huge tax break for the rich, and he doesn't care what it means for income inequality
http://www.huffingtonpost...lp00000009

So who are you Republicans voting for again? Still haven't heard anyone backing up any of the actual candidates. Admit it, as much as you hate Obama, you still have to admit they are all a bunch of lunatics. What does it say about the entire party?

So. Who is it, bigsky?

never bought a reba album in my life number two..

hey cheryl do you think herman cain is taking True Romance a little further since a black man was the owner of GODFATHERS PIZZA?

Rick Perry's speech video goes viral...this man has to be on something. This is a crazy speech. Seems like he was having a breakdown...

http://content.usatoday.c...mpshire-/1

Umm... let's not give such things more credit than they deserve. A viral video is usually considered a million or more. This has 575,7xx.

http://socialtimes.com/wh...ral_b61409

http://willvideoforfood.c...-be-viral/

[This message has been edited by Richard Bonine, Jr. (11/1/2011)]

Remember when I said aaron listens to Reba? He does and it was funny.

Dr. Joseph Mercola
Yet more information is being released regarding the HPV vaccine. Watch this shocking video as a group of girls recently shared their experiences after receiving the Gardasil vaccine (relevent in that Merck paid Rick Perry's campaign $380,000, after which he made it manditory to get this vaccine in Texas.)

http://articles.mercola.c...-know.aspx

Since your link does not work, I can't tell if this is the same video in question, but if so, here is some information on the subject.

http://www.snopes.com/med...rdasil.asp

Mercola's a quack. MOAR SCIENCE, LESS QUACK please.

Thirty-two girls out of millions died at some time after receiving the vaccine. There is NO indication of a common cause of death (I know the first one who died in the UK turned out to have cancer upon autopsy.)

So, we know that 32 girls died. We don't know if there is ANY connection AT ALL between the vaccine and their death. Those 32 girls may have died from any number of causes but no cause was connected to the vaccine. I bet all of those 32 girls breathed and ate and did stuff and the cause of death could be eating or breathing or doing stuff.

Some kids got sore arms or fainted from fear. Kids get sore arms and faint for any number of shots and tests. I remember kids keeling over when we got tested for TB in grade school BEFORE they got the shot. So, sore arms and fainting means nada when it comes to vaccines. My allergy shots hurt like a sum of a b*tch but I got them anyway because (brace yourself) THEY WERE GOOD FOR ME!

Science, people. It's real. It involves facts. Not rumors. (Vaccines cause autism!) Not panic attacks. (A needle. FAINT!)

Should any solid evidence from a RELIABLE source indicate there is a problem with the vaccine, I would be interested. Remember, however, that a small number of people will always have an adverse reaction to a medical procedure. That doesn't mean the rest of us should not have that option. Heck, the smallpox vaccine could kill you in particularly horrific ways but it was still a better risk to have the vaccination than the disease.

Or should we just say, heck, let thousands of young women die of cancer. They deserve it. Let's not give them an option that might just save their life. Statistically (whooo! Numbers!) they are more likely to die from cervical cancer than have an adverse reaction to the vaccine. If you want to gamble with your life, always play the odds.

I wish more people understood how VAERS collects and analyzes data. It is very misleading if you just read Internet snippets here and there.

While I was living in Miles City there was a gentleman with no arms who was born that way because his Mom used Thalidomide to cure morning sickness on the advice of her Doctor (it was later withdrawn, but not until approx. 20,000 kids were born with serious birth defects). Merck's own arthritis drug Vioxx was withdrawn after it was linked to approx. 52,000 heart attacks. In both instances there were warnings of the danger years before they were withdrawn, which could have prevented a large number of those tragedies. So consider this your early warning, and I am done with it. India and France have already banned the Gardasil Vaccine after a large number of adverse health effects and some deaths. Anyway, you have the right to do whatever you choose with your own children. My main problem with this is that Merck would be able to donate enough money to a politician that he would try to take away the choice from the parents.

Now that we're done with that, how about this?

http://www.mail.com/news/...ge-hero1-2

I know some local politicians who think their remarks are amusing but the person being remarked upon sees it very differently.

Scarborough: Conservative Leaders Telling Me They'd 'Rather Lose' Than Elect Romney

Could this be a watershed week in the Republican presidential primary? Joe Scarborough seems to think so.

On today's Morning Joe, he said something remarkable: that in the last week, stalwart conservatives and "conservative leaders" have begun telling him that they would "rather lose" than elect Mitt Romney

http://www.newsbusters.or...z1cbcA1L3a

Don't most sexual harassment hotline numbers start with a 999 prefix?

Mitt Romney has a vision. Wall Street... UNREGULATED
Main Street... ISOLATED
The Middle Class... DECIMATED
American jobs... RELOCATED
Supreme Court... STACKED

... WAKE UP ....

so what is the difference between mit romney and barak hussein obama

Nothing

this is another unbelieveable act by the "ultra born again right wing idiots"

http://www.addictinginfo....cognition/

Maddow on Cain: `It's performance art .America is being punk'd'


http://www.rawstory.com/r...n-pokemon/

Herman Cain is "performance art."

Ticking off a list of Cain's numerous gaffes, unintentionally (or not!) bizarre statements and pop culture-derived policy ideas, Maddow said she's convinced Cain isn't seriously running for President.

"It is one thing to be a gaffe-prone, inexperienced candidate. But the gaffes are too perfect," Maddow said.


"Black walnut, noted for it's `staying power,' doesn't exist anymore. The book chapter on the magic number. The 9-9-9 thing from the video game. The great poet Pokemon. Pokemon? Really? A Pokemon movie? Really?" she said. "A string of supposed gaffes like that is not found in nature. But at this point in the campaign no one has figured out that this is not politics. This is art."

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I see all of the 'right' candidates playing the same game for the same goal. I think that the whole Republican slate is 'scripted' to push a specific candidate to the top of the slate, but to make him seem 'moderate' compared to the others.

I honestly dont think they are running against each other, I think they are all on the same team and pretending to be against each other.

maybe they are following obama and bidens lead...i mean heck..obama doesnt even know how many states there are...

and then there is biden...well...need i say more...

lets make sure we arent being brainwashed by msnbc cheryl. you might end up a socialist...

Bigsky-do you even know the definition of Socialism, or do you just think it's something bad because Fox News uses it like some sort of a a curse word? Most of Europe is based on a socialist model, and in my travels there I have found it very well run and the people and workers to be very happy.

SOCIALISM is a wide and varied economic/political structure. But mainly, at its core, it is an economic structure. It is an economic principle that states that the workers in a system get the profits from that system. It is the opposite of capitalism, where one individual, the owner, gets the profits from a system.

Under socialism, workers will work together to produce goods and services. Under most forms of socialism, workers are not paid the same wage, but are paid based on their ability, knowledge, innovation, and hard work. Under socialism, an educated man who works hard and contributes more to an organization will get a higher salary. But at the end of the year, when profits are calculated, every worker will share in the profits.

Here is an example:
AT&T made 12 billion dollars in profits (not revenue, but profits) in 2008. They employed about 300,000 people. Under capitalism, those profits are divided up among the owners and paid out as dividends. The owners do not necessarily work for AT&T, but since they own the company, they get the profits.
If we had a socialist system, the 12 billion in profits would be divided among the 300,000 workers, giving each worker about 40,000 dollars at the end of the year, regardless if they were the CEO or janitor. Don't get me wrong, the CEO would still make a seven figure salary, and the janitor would still get close to minimum wage, but the profits would be equal because all employees contribute to the success of the company. That is socialism.

Furthermore, Socialism is democratic and free market. workers cooperatives would compete freely with other cooperatives to create product, and workers would vote on the strategic direction of their company rather than a dictator/owner having sole discretion on what the company does. (This is a main problem in capitalism because often owners do things that are not in the best interests of the workers or society, like offshore jobs or pollute the community)

What is so wrong with that?

Two Candidates and Seven Clowns: How Did This Happen to the GOP?

http://www.tnr.com/articl...candidates

Republicans would be forgiven for feeling envious of primary seasons past. This year, there are a collection of vanity candidates, people who appear to be auditioning for a show on Fox News, and a few who are seriously out of step with their party's ideology.

Why is this year's Republican presidential field so, well, weird? While each election year field is subject to its own particular constraints and quirks of history, today's wacky Republican field is also the undeniable product of two long-brewing trends within the party. First, GOP elites have become ruthlessly efficient at winnowing the field of serious contenders. At the same time, however, the growth of the market for conservative books, television shows, and speaking engagements has made a presidential run a good brand-builder for those not seriously seeking to be president but eager to exploit that market

I think if Fox News was bandying around terms that were truly detrimental to the American Public, they would be throwing around the word "Fascist", but since they are in the pocket of the people who wish to become such people, I guess they don't want to use that term and align themselves with Hitler and Mussolini types.

FASCISM is a extreme right wing form of capitalism. It is the marriage of the privately held corporation and the government. Fascism occurs when the corporate elite, plutocrats, and/or oligarchs of a society directly (or indirectly in some cases) control the government and policies. When corporations write the laws, and affect laws in their favor instead of for the people, then you are headed or are in a fascist state. For example, in Nazi Germany or Italy, the government basically gave the rich corporate owners the ability to operate freely and openly and wrote laws in their favor often against the best interests of the people. In Italy specifically, corporate owners held positions of power in government and literally wrote laws in their favor.

In the USA, many of the corporate lobbyists that influence our politicians (mainly the GOP) write our laws. They work hard to eliminate regulations that protect the people, and also try to write laws in their favor. This is dangerously close to fascism, when rich owners (plutocrats) are the ones with the real power in our government.

I think if you were really trying to call people names, "socialist" doesn't have quite the evil ring to it that "Fascist" does.

I think that throwing around the word "socialist" as if it were a terrible insult points to a certain lack of education and understanding of what the word actually means, and also points to a certain amount of "brainwashing" by other uneducated people who also have no idea what it means or what they are talking about (maybe Faux News pundits, all who have flunked out of college). FYI, it's a stupid insult to throw out to any college graduate.

"Posting" thirty times with no response is also "crazy" but I don't hear too many "complaints"