Miles City, always keeping the past alive
Posted by Smiley (+847) 10 years ago
I think the fact that Miles City just let that anti-abortion fear mongers pregnancy outreach clinic open is completely ignorant. While they claim to offer "pregnancy services and option counseling" all they will do is make sure any girl that walks through that door does not make an informed decision.

They are completely against abortion, which is fine. The bad part is the lying and decieving young girls saying they will help make a choice. They will give you a VERY biased opinion on what you should do with "YOUR BABY." (big emphasis on your baby, they want you to know."

I don't care if "the community" supported the "clinic" opening. I'm sure they didn't tell you all the things they plan to do to scare and pressure young girls into keeping their baby. Abortion is STILL legal in America, and while no one is really pro-abortion, we are pro choice. All these people will do is force their beliefs on you and make you feel extra guilty. A simple way to demonstrate they are anti-abortion is the fact they were assisted by the Knights of Colombus. I'm pretty sure the Catholics haven't changed their view on abortion over the past year.


If you want to support a legitimate family planning organization, support the already established Custer County Family Planning, or allow a Planned Parenthood. This is a blast from the past that is extremely unnecessary for Miles City. Hopefully young girls will understand the deception. Here is a link (with references at the bottom) for you to learn more about these places.

http://www.fwhc.org/abortion/fake.htm
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Posted by Mandi (+351) 10 years ago
Do you have a reference, or legit links proving that this organization is anti-abortion? I would love to see them....
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Posted by Mandi (+351) 10 years ago
Also, it is very important to be able to distinguish the difference between a truly legit website and a propaganda, opinion site (such as the one you have quoted). One great way to learn such things is education. Just a little something to consider.......
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Posted by Smiley (+847) 10 years ago
The article in the star mentions LaVie of Billings (formerly care net which is a cpc)
Carenet changed the name to be more deceitfu after people caught on.

Did you even check the references the link I gave cited? One of them is an article about a texan ordinance. Besides that article being factual, you can tell by the set up. Last time I checked jesus christ did not offer pregnancy tests (pregancyoutreachofmilescity.com or something like that)
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Posted by Mandi (+351) 10 years ago
Keep talking, you just keep digging yourself deeper.
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Posted by Dave Golterman (+243) 10 years ago
Smiley, check your copy of the First Amendment. Mine doesn't say freedom of speech for everyone except those who are opposed to abortion.
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Posted by jw (+122) 10 years ago
Smiley-
Why do the majority of your posts demonstrate your intimidation of those that participate in an organized religion or have faith in a higher power? You note things such as the support from the Knights of Columbus, Catholics, and Jesus Christ using pregnancy tests in your above posts.

While visiting the outreach website, I noticed that they offer such options as post-abortion counseling.

I feel that you may be reading into things and making judgements without all the facts.

OR

Maybe I am judging you primarily on your numerous posts. I hope it is not the later.
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Posted by Hannah Nash (+2495) 10 years ago
In the Seattle and Portland areas, currently, similar clinics are receiving legal scrutiny because of privacy concerns (patient confidentiality and adherence to HIPAA guidelines). Lawsuits have been filed, and won.

From what I could garner from the Star article, this is a privately funded clinic. Which official laws and regulations regarding patient privacy are being adhered to by the clinic and its staff? Is the door being left open for possible litigation by patrons expecting confidentiality?

These legal concerns (valid ones, especially so in a small community where keeping ones privacy can be difficult) have yet to be addressed in the newspaper articles or in other advertisements for the LeVie(sp) or CareNet clinics.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5095) 10 years ago
Why do the majority of your posts demonstrate your intimidation of those that participate in an organized religion or have faith in a higher power?




A pro-lifer complaining about "intimidation". Irony.
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Posted by Smiley (+847) 10 years ago
This is smiily's husband.

From what i have read this post was not an attack on thiests, and should not have been taken as so. This post seemed to be an attack, if it can even be classified as an attack, on the communities decision to allow this business into it's boundries.

With pregnancy becoming more and more common among teenagers every option should be given consideration. Foster homes while a great idea provide several ethical questions you should consider.
1. How does being bounced from one home to another until adult hood affect these children?
2. With noi permanant role models in their lifes, how are these children to know right from wrong?
3. What about the abuse that is so common in these homes?

And if they keep them what then? Teenage parents are more likely to be poor than any other group. Poor people are more likely to engage in crimes. So following this chain of thought, each saved life is a potential criminal.
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr. (+14950) 10 years ago
With pregnancy becoming more and more common among teenagers every option should be given consideration. Foster homes while a great idea provide several ethical questions you should consider.


Your premise that teen pregnancy is becoming more common is faulty... it has actually dropped by 37% since 1981.

http://thechart.blogs.cnn...o-decades/

[This message has been edited by Richard Bonine, Jr. (6/30/2011)]
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Posted by Mandi (+351) 10 years ago
People need to RESEARCH their information. Have credible references. Otherwise you are just being ignorant! Ignorant people SUCK!
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Posted by Smiley (+847) 10 years ago
Well, That's good to know.

-Shannon. (the real smiley)

Also, this really isn't about religion. I was only referencing religion to meet the burden of proof that they are in fact anti abortion like you asked. You don't see me getting angry when a new church opens. It's when people lie.
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Posted by stephen (+250) 10 years ago
So, my assumpttion based on the vast amount of students pregnant in the graduating class year.. I believe it was 10%, may have been wrong.. Yet the fact still remains.
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Posted by Smiley (+847) 10 years ago
I've done more research about this specific topic. Ignorant people do suck. My hubby did not know teen pregnancy had gone down, but it seemed to be on the rise. I think that is because of the overexposure of the topic in mainstream media.
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr. (+14950) 10 years ago
I've done more research about this specific topic. Ignorant people do suck. My hubby did not know teen pregnancy had gone down, but it seemed to be on the rise. I think that is because of the overexposure of the topic in mainstream media.


Maybe you should watch something beside MTV. Teen pregnancy is rather 1990's and really isn't a popular topic in the "mainstream media" whatever that is...
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Posted by Cory Cutting (+1272) 10 years ago
Stephen, to quote a percentage is misleading. CCDHS graduates what, about 150 students a class? So that would be 1.5 students pregnant from the graduating class. Not exactly an overwhelming statistic when broken down...
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Posted by David Schott (+17055) 10 years ago
Cory? 10% of 150 is?
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Posted by jw (+122) 10 years ago
Bob L. your assumption that I am a "pro-lifer" is also wrong.
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Posted by Former (+187) 10 years ago
This thread is retarded.

Making an "informed decision" includes knowing about the development of the fetus as well as options for adoption, etc. The pro-life and pro-death people can each tell the scared young lady their side of the story so that she is fully informed.

It isn't like taking out the garbage...
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Posted by Jay Johnson (+53) 10 years ago
I was amazed to read of the pregnancy rate at CCDHS. I'm of a different generation and when I was going to school there in the early 40's, I never heard of a pregnancy, and things like that are rather difficult to keep quiet.
I retired from the Connecticut Dept. of Corrections after spending my last 6 years as a Lieut. at the State Prison for Women. There were several times when I was called upon to accompany a Matron and prisoner to a clinic for an abortion.
I remember one young girl was serving a sentence for drugs and prostitution and her mother and grandmother were both serving time on the same charges. The mother and grandmother had long records.The girl was quite bright and in talking to her she told me that she wanted to have the abortion and she didn't want to bring a child into the kind of life she had. She wanted to get out and get an education and find a better life than she had and felt this was the right thing to do both for herself and the child. I could find no fault with her decision.
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Posted by Bridgier (+9195) 10 years ago
The pro-life and pro-death

Or, alternatively, pro-choice and forced-birth.

Also, as no abortion thread can be complete without the following chart...



[This message has been edited by Bridgier (7/1/2011)]
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4461) 10 years ago
What's the pregnancy rate at CCDHS? Can't be as high as mine. WINNING!
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Posted by Cory Cutting (+1272) 10 years ago
OOPs..... well, math was not my strong suit! LOL. OK.. but on the other side of it, I don't believe for one minute that there were 15 girls that were pregnant either. Either way, bad math or not, I don't buy it.
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Posted by Bridgier (+9195) 10 years ago
That's a lot of single mothers - maybe a strip club IS needed...
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