Suicide
Posted by Heather Schmidt (+21) 10 years ago
It's a painful subject, but even when we try to push it into the back of our minds, the problem isn't going to go away.

 Suicide is the second leading cause of death in Eastern Montana for people aged 10-34.

 According to a 2000-2007 Montana DPHHS study, Custer county had the highest rate of suicide in Montana.

 Montana's suicide rate has ranked in the top five in the nation for the past thirty years.


If you're ready to see these statistics change, please be a part of our community based film project. It will use the input, the ideas, and the strength of the Miles City community to create a resource for suicide prevention.

We want this to be a project that is defined by the community, and bears the distinctive mark of our county. That way, the end result can be something that will let those around us who are going through the darker times in their lives know that they aren't out of options, and that the overwhelming majority of folks in our area are here to help them make it through.

Please join us to hear a presentation by renowned filmmaker Lise Swenson as well as to provide your input on this film project.

Tuesday, June 7th at 6 pm
Miles Community College
Room 317
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Posted by klew (+85) 10 years ago
Heather, what is this exactly? For education or to develop a support system or what?
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Posted by Jerry Dean (+149) 10 years ago
This town is an old retirment town! The kids have nothing to do and for some reason the school system seems to not care about getting the kids excited about graduating and exploring this wonderful world. I know, my son went through that stage, with out Heather to support him and showing him that learning is fun and he is not dumb,that he was just bored with school. Thank you Heather, you have made a difference in many a childs life, to want to finish school,and make the next step! Please people with youths and for sure with young teenagers, you need to get informed.
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Posted by Chris Gamrath (+385) 10 years ago
Miles City is far from a "retirement town" as you put it. Miles City is a family town and always has been. It's built upon generations of families growing up and raising their children there. Suicide is a very horrible and very terrible thing to have to deal with, but the town itself is NOT to blame for the increase in the rates you're seeing.

Kids today are exposed to so much more, so much faster then even I thought possible. In some people's eyes I'm still just a young pup at 35 years of age, but I have been around this place long enough to know that society as a whole is NOT doing our children any favors when it comes to growing up. Technology is a great and wonderful thing, but it's fallen into the hands of our kids and they're not ready for what they will undoubtly be exposed to. It's easier to blame the parents and adults that surround our kids everyday for their lack of respect, their bad behavior, their careless ways of thinking... but I say it's everyone's fault! Your's, mine, and Joe Blow sitting over their in the corner. Society! 2nd grade children should NOT know the "f-word" and definatly should not be using it on the playground towards their classmates. Adolesants should not be watching "Teen Mom" and "I Didn't Know I was Pregnant" on MTV. Junior High kids shouldn't be talking about their buddies smoking weed or trying Neth, and Freshman shouldn't be talking about how many times they've already had sex!

This to me is not a product of their enviroment, it's a product of their society. Our society. What we've helped to create. What most of us try to ignore and/or sweep under the rug. Our kids have (for the most part) lost their chances just to be kids, and are instead forced into way too many of life's hard choices to make long before they're ever ready to make a good, educated decision! When things go wrong at that point, they don't know how to undo what's been done and some turn to the one choice that's the worst of them all. Suicide.

Don't get me wrong, I know firsthand that Miles City has had a lot more suicides then what any small town should see, and have been touched by them directly. It's sad, it's unnerving, and it's life-ending. We do what we can to try and make sure it's a choice that those we know and love never feel like they have to make, but unfortunatly we can't always be there when they make the decision. You do what you can, more then you have to, more then you need to, and hope for the best.

In the end, in MY opinion, it's a decision dictated by the product of society and NOT the product of enviroment. Miles City was, it, and hopefully will continue to be a good wholesome place to raise a family. Is it small? Yes Is it boring sometimes? Yes Does that mean there's a good chance someone we know will committ suicide over that? Hell no! I am far from a world traveler but I do know there's a lot of places I have been where I wouldn't take raising my family there vs. Miles City for anything.

Sorry for the "soapbox speech" but some things tend to naw at me a little bit, and this would be one of them.

p.s. I want to say thankyou to Heather for what it is you try and do for all those around you. I am by no means trying to belittle, or take awy from what you've done to help with this situation and applaud you for the actions you take to try and help prevent any suicide.

[This message has been edited by Chris Gamrath (5/28/2011)]
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Posted by Cynthia A. (+197) 10 years ago
any effort to help suicide awareness is important. I would not have said MC is a retirement town as for the amount of schools and kids we have. Our High School, Middle School and Lincoln do talk and educate the kids ~ I have kids in each school. It starts at home. It has to. When did it become the schools job to motivate the kids to go on to a future? It is a joint effort. Unfortunately NO demographic is safe from this evil. Even though I agree with the last poster on this topic about that things that should not be happening at grade levels, they are. It's were society is. It is important to parent the kids you choose to have wether you are single, divorced, duel income, stay at home parent, rich, poor, middle class. Be involved. Have discussions. Ask questions. Know your kids. Know their friends. Know their patterns. SO much can be done to help, and that can truly start at home. Kudo's to the people in the community who step up. Whether in public or at home, it has to be a joint effort.
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11757) 10 years ago
NO demographic is safe from this evil


And this is part of the problem. Depression is not an 'evil' to be exorcized. It is AN ILLNESS. It is a chemical imbalance in the brain that needs to be treated medically. As long as people behave as if it is a 'moral failing,' then suicide prevention fails.

Medical intervention, be it with medicine or therapy, is necessary. Depression can be a lifelong illness that needs lifelong treatment and it needs to be treated as an illness, just like Type I Diabetes. Kids who have 'everything' commit suicide because of the way the chemicals in their brain function. Kids who have 'nothing' go through life with no problems because their brain functions differently.

As soon as people treat it as a medical condition--and insurance companies follow suit--we have a hope of dealing with the problem.
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Posted by C.Kee (+376) 10 years ago
Well said, Amorette!

[This message has been edited by C.Kee (5/29/2011)]
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Posted by Cynthia A. (+197) 10 years ago
I did not say evil as in something that needs to be cast out ~the term evil has many meanings. One of the meanings is "something that causes harm." THAT is what was meant by my post. I have dealt with depression/suicide on a personal level, I feel confidently I can say it causes harm. I think most people would agree with that. Maybe try not to read something into someone's post that is not there.
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Posted by MeiMei (+168) 10 years ago
Cynthia,

Thank you for your compassion and concern. Your message comes from your heart and I hear it from there. Thank you for caring! The more we learn about the pain of those suffering from depression and anxiety, the more we can help. It is a difficult challenge for everyone and it is so good to see our "village" cares about its children and its adults who are hurting. Many of us have struggled through this obstacle and the journey is impossible without the love and support of others.
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Posted by Gail (+47) 10 years ago
Well said Chris. MC has just as much to do as when I grew up there 50 years ago-and I was busy all the time. If we thought we were bored, we had probably 20 kids in the neighborhood to play with-baseball or kickball at Wibeaux Park. Tetherball, piano lessons, bike riding, swimming, skating, gymnastics, church, sunday school, scouts. Working jobs like babysitting, taking care of lawns in the summer, paper delivery (subbed for my brother while he played little league). We were always doing something. We also had chores to do. I don't remember being too bored for very long. Parenting is the key...
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr. (+14950) 10 years ago
WOW... she wasn't raptured after all.
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Posted by Kacey (+3159) 10 years ago
I agree that parenting is very important in preventing suicide. There are way too many parents who spend little time and attention on their children but find time to do drugs or drink to excess (still a drug). Parents who fight and put their children in the middle of a nasty divorce also cause a lot of heartache to children. Using them as leverage to get what they want is a horrible example of child abuse but it's done way too often.

People wonder about the rise in suicide in younger children. Perhaps they feel they have no support. Perhaps they feel that no matter what they do things will still be bad in their world because their parents are never satisfied.

I know there are lots of other reasons for suicide, including chemical. But let's not discount that parents are at the heart of a child's behavior.
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Posted by MeiMei (+168) 10 years ago
Parenting is important but personally what I have learned about depression helps me realize how complicated the illness is and even perfect parenting (which I think does not exist) will be only one facet of the complexity. Education for all of us will help as will awareness and support for those hurting.
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11757) 10 years ago
Depression is AN ILLNESS. It is a chemical imbalance in the brain that needs to be treated medically.

Medical intervention, be it with medicine or therapy, is necessary. Depression can be a lifelong illness that needs lifelong treatment and it needs to be treated as an illness, just like Type I Diabetes. Kids who have 'everything' commit suicide because of the way the chemicals in their brain function. Kids who have 'nothing' go through life with no problems because their brain functions differently.

As soon as people treat it as a medical condition--and insurance companies follow suit--we have a hope of dealing with the problem.


Depression is a DISEASE. It is not caused by bad parenting or lack of swimming pools. I had great parents BUT depression ran in my family on both sides and that led to my suicidal issues. Depression is a DISEASE with a 20% mortality rate. It is treated through counseling and chemicals and blaming the parents, the lack of entertainment, etc. is not helping.

You don't blame near-sightedness on bad parents. You blame it on genetics. Same with depression. I will repeat it until I am blue in the face.

DEPRESSION IS A DISEASE CAUSED BY CHEMICAL IMBALANCES IN THE BRAIN.

I have been treated for depression my entire adult life. I can go into great detail about how suicidal levels of depression are different from being sad. I cannot blame my depression on HOW my very good parents did their job. (Excellently, for the record.) I can blame it on their genes.

There are parents of suicides who blame themselves for being 'bad' parents. What they were in uneducated in a particular DISEASE and its symptoms.

One more time:

DEPRESSION IS A DISEASE CAUSED BY CHEMICAL IMBALANCES IN THE BRAIN. IT IS A MEDICAL CONDITION, NOT A MORAL FAILING ON ANYONE'S PART.
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Posted by Michael LaFayette (+77) 10 years ago
I agree with chris for the most part, but I think 3 things are partial factors.
1. Punishment, you can't punish your kids without it being called abuse. You old timers surely remember if you was misbehaiving in school you got the ruler to your butt, or wrist. When I was growing up If I was bad I got the belt to my butt. Now days you can't do that, so the child gets away with more now days then they would have say 25 years ago.

2. Nothing constructive for children to do in this town. We have the movie theatre for entertainemnt that does not have anything to do with alocohol. I would say sure the bowling alley, but still can be alocohol there. We also got the parks, but they are aimed at the younger children. What about when kids hit 7th grade and up? There is not much constructive stuff for them to do that does not involve alochol, and why?

3. Miles City is poor, and custer county is one of the poorest counties in montana. And all the ones who got the money to put up to build non alocoholic activity places won't do it, because they got all the casinos and bars in town and make a killing selling booze.. you think they would invest into a non boozing place that will barely make profit, or show losses? Not a chance.

So as kids get into, heck I think they starting as low as 6th grade unfortunatilty, higher grades with nothing to do, they expierment with alochol, which is a downer. Then some of them expierment with illegal drugs, mostly downers, or meth. Some of them end up pregnant by 15-19, or become criminals, and choose suicide as the only way out
Miles City needs to do something to break this chain or early age drinking/drugging. Sure it won't happen over night, but I strongly beleive with more places for young teens to spend there time to show them there is something more to do in life then drink, our suicide rate might start dropping.
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr. (+14950) 10 years ago
Miles City is poor, and custer county is one of the poorest counties in montana.


The lingering notion that if local government had more money we could build cool stuff and our kids wouldn't be "bored" is BS! While some additional money might help build some infrastructure, being "bored" is largely a choice. I live in one of the richest counties and cities in Wyoming and probably the entire country. There are still kids who claim to be "bored" and that there is "nothing to do". We have had several suicides the last 5 years.

The most recent was a high school senior who had just won his second state title in wrestling, was very active in the DARE program, and very involved in a lot of other youth activities. His parents are very successful business people in town.

Nobody had a clue what was going on in this young mans head. Obviously, he became depressed about something in his life. Getting this topic out in the open where it can be calmly discussed is important. The notion that more money, and thus more infrastructure so kids will have something to do, is a myth that needs to be put out of its misery.

[This message has been edited by Richard Bonine, Jr. (5/30/2011)]
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Posted by Jade S (+153) 10 years ago
Although I think poor parenting can exacerbate depression symptoms, I don't believe it causes it. You either have depression, or you don't. My upbringing, by some of these accounts, should have forced me off a bridge. It didn't. Why? Because my brain functioned in a different way. I was sad, often, but no where near clinically depressed.
It is a fervent hope of mine that someday people will be educated about depression, that instead of assigning blame, treatment options will be mainstream without stigma. When you remove shame from depression , I believe we will see more people getting treated.
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11757) 10 years ago
Beating your children neither causes nor cures type one diabetes.

Entertaining your children neither causes nor cures type one diabetes.

Having lots of money or having no money in the surrounding community neither causes nor cures type one diabetes.

Substitute "clinical depression" for "type one diabetes" and repeat.

DEPRESSION IS AN ILLNESS. It is not caused or cured by parental action, multiplex movie theatres or rich communities.

Should that simple message ever be understood by both people and insurance companies, we will be well on on our way to dealing with the disease and its most dramatic symptom.
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Posted by Heather Schmidt (+21) 10 years ago
Heather, what is this exactly? For education or to develop a support system or what?


Klew, It's meant to be a bit of both. The purpose of the project is to increase connections and help solidify a support system within the community, to create a film that can be used as an educational tool in communities that are facing similar issues, and to sow the seeds for a continued discussion of the issues we're facing that will last beyond the scope of the film project itself.

I'm very glad to see people taking interest in this topic, and I hope to see some of you at the presentation on the seventh!

Also, there's no way I can take all the credit for this project. I'm just one of a group of people who are looking to tackle this though issue. Hopefully, by the time all is said and done, there will be even more of you with whom I can share the credit.
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Posted by Former (+187) 10 years ago
Its always good to see that semantics can derail an important topic even when everyone is pretty much on the same page...
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Posted by C.Kee (+376) 10 years ago
Unless someone has walked in your shoes, they do not understand. Rather that be someone that has lost a child to suicide, to cancer, a spouse to another person, OR depression, unrelenting depression.... I smile on the outside and do what is expected....I take antidepressants and fight on a daily basis. It is in my genetics and stressors I had no control over. I don't blame anyone; I have my hands full fighting the depression to live a full life.
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Posted by Jeff Denton (+763) 10 years ago
This case might be worth watching and learning from:
http://www.greatfallstrib...e-outbreak
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Posted by Mandyrosy (+190) 10 years ago
The presentation is tonight at 6 p.m. at MCC, Room 317.
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Posted by frost (+54) 10 years ago
Miles city is the main issue of suicide. When I lived in other town im way happier not depressed just have a good time gives u a good feeling inside. When you come here u are put in the middle of drama wanna be gangs fights evreything and the cops wont do nothing. See I lived here awhile and I tried to do fun stuff like modifing cars somthing to put money in insted of beer and drugs. But it seems you can't do that eathir in this town cause we have the best traffic cops in the world freaking jokes. Kids in this town go hide at a party or a friends get drunk or do drugs why because of bad home lives taunting in school people making fun of them not careing these are all things that are very prominate in this town. I know a whole group of people that don't go out because of what people say the looks they get makes them feel like nothing like they can't succeed in life. The town and the stuck up snooty people that have money that have it easy that can get jobs easy cause this on the younger generation. You say miles city is a family town you a dam idiot forsyth terry baker there half the size of us and have 10 times more to do for kids. Baker let's kids hang in parking lots mod there cars and have funn and have a rec center. Can you do any of that in miles city no. When I was young we could now as I have gotten older you can't cops come in threaten you to beat your ass no joke it happend to me and kick you out. This town is ran by people that don't care bout the next generation they only care bout themselves. And another thing there is no work and you wont hire someone that might be diffrent you wont try anything new hell that person could be the best you ever hire. If you pooled the youth of this town you would realize how many contiplate about suicide on a daily basis and then they drink to forget it that's real 50% of the kids in this town are this way and they don't show it. And for the school do you see the drop out percentage why is that? Ill tell ya are teachers think they got the power of god they treat students like poop times change respect the kids and choices don't force like you do. And mr oglen is a douche straight up I know most hate him. But heather was my fav teacher she cared she talked she understood me would try anything to help you pass that a teacher but all her trying and evreything mr oglan kicked me out being 18 and smoking with one assiment left now you can understand a lil what kids go threw life is hard now way harder then it used to be reason suicide is the choice most make
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10001) 10 years ago
Sounds like a whole lot of excuses and justification there, junior.

The mind can make a heaven out of hell or a hell out of heaven.

It's up to you.
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Posted by Kacey (+3159) 10 years ago
Life is all perspective.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/...llings_mt/
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10001) 10 years ago
Kind of like that old rhyme "I had the blues, because I had no shoes, until upon the street, I met a man who had no feet."
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Posted by Levi Forman (+3712) 10 years ago
So I think the point of all that is that people are killing themselves because they aren't able to loiter in private parking lots?
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Posted by Kacey (+3159) 10 years ago
Maybe those with nothing to do can offer their abilities to those who need help. Work at the food bank. Collect food for the food bank. Help get donations for fund raisers. Offer to mow the lawn for an elderly person. Offer to walk their dog when they no longer have the strength. If people spent less time worrying about themselves and more time trying to figure out how to be a productive member of society we'd all be a lot better off.
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Posted by frost (+54) 10 years ago
My point I was making is its not just the person fault other have impact on it to do u not understand how many comit suicide because of what others think of them and how there treated. And justification lol u amuse me how about this if you havnt been on the edge they you have nothing to say. And depression happens to all. And ill admit it I have been on this edge been almost ready to do it had my. 45 in my hand took a good friend to stop me untill ur seconds away u have nothing to say. Suicide thoughts happen to many but most it happens when evreything keeps failing nothing gose right and keeps u down after u try so hard a persons mind can only handle so much before it starts to break down and the thoughts start running.
for instance a guy that had it all good job nice things good girlfriend. Then one day girlfriend leaves week later looses his job month later vehical breaks down the whole time looking for a job and getting nothing pain hurts to much starts to drink heavy fall deeper in to alcoholism starts to loose his life looses evreything he owned bill collectors always calling can make ends meet can't get ahead then the thoughts start and cause thers no help he ends his life.
Ya that's real go ahead and think that u would be ok in them circumstances. But you know what think all you want you wont know till your there.
And most the stuff I went off on is true and reason this town sucks so bad is cause of people like you people that don't wanna fix it cause there to blind to see the real world book smart people that have never had a hard life. Your the reason this town is failing. Be proud of yourself, or change your mind set show some empathy for people and the issues that plague this town and help fix them insted of being pig headed and shovin it off like its not true. I show empathy to my fellow people I help when needed I pull over on the hiway when people break down I go out of my way to help others I pay It fwd but havnt been paid back. Do you do that or do you just criticiz people for open thought on milescity,com?
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10001) 10 years ago
frost wrote:
u not understand how many comit suicide because of what others think of them and how there treated. And justification lol u amuse me how about this if you havnt been on the edge they you have nothing to say.

Hah. You have no idea where I've been kid.

One thing I've noticed, is how infrequent to run across a 40-year-old man mumbling, "Damn, I wish I would have killed myself when I was fifteen." You just don't see that enough. Try to make that happen sparky, and I'll give you an award. Otherwise, it appears the only one you're gonna be eligible for is the Darwin.
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Posted by Levi Forman (+3712) 10 years ago
If you think everything around you sucks then one of two things is happening.

1) You are in some horrible country in Africa or the middle east surrounded by famine, pestilence, and war and you need to get out of there, or

2) You have an attitude problem.
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Posted by Jeff Denton (+763) 10 years ago
I hope you get enough help with these issues that are troubling you. It's obvious that people care and are trying. Are you listening?
As for you comments about the people at mc.com you are correct, there are some dandies here for reasons such as helping each other understand issues, working out problems, making fun of people, practicing their comedy acts, trying to prove they're smarter than others, trying to start a war or incite a riot, and maybe just being a horse's butt. Whatever. You have to choose which part you want to play, how to react, how to interact, whether to make it better or worse.
That's life, kid. Attitude is huge. Appearance can be important, too, sometimes, I can't tell from here if that might be part of your problem, if so you should try to improve that. In season I employ up to half a dozen college students but due the the nature of the work they cannot look like roadies for Motley Crue. That's a hangup right there when they ask for an app.
Hope you grow up and become a successful, outstanding citizen. Best of luck to you.
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11757) 10 years ago
Frost is a teenager who recently lost his father. Rage is a normal part of the grieving process. You can't be angry with the actual cause so you just have general anger at everything and everyone. He has just learned that the world is not fair, that life is cruel, and reality can bite. He would be angry no matter where he was and what he was doing. As he moves through his grief, I suspect the anger will fade.

True depression, suicidal depression, is not always caused by sad events around you. True depression is feeling awful and wanting to die to end the pain even when everything is going well.

If he truly is suicidal, he should get help immediately. While imaging how upset everyone would be if you died is gratifying when you are young, you won't be around to enjoy it if you really go through with it. Dead is permanent and rarely the corrects solution.

If Frost can get through today, get help, get counseling, get medication, someday he will be an old fart like us and can look back and see what he was really angry about. Hint: It isn't Wal-Mart or Miles City.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6165) 10 years ago
frost,

If you are still depressed you need to talk to your family doctor about therapy and possible medication. Depression is a physical illness and there are many treatment options that can do wonders for helping you change your outlook. Until then, surround yourself with supportive, POSITIVE, friends and stay clear of negative situations as much as you can. Find ways to help the community become a better place such as volunteering for the food bank or at the hospital. Folks may turn you down for a job but no one turns down free labor. Good luck.
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Posted by frost (+54) 10 years ago
Whoa whoa calm it down people for one im not a teenager for two im not suicidal and my dad died like 6 years ago and I didn't like hij anyway. I make this point cause I have lost over 8 friends from suicide and its a subject that hits a core in me and pisses me off. I used to have these issues I don't anymore. I understand what others go threw I've been there. I've done every drug under the sun been locked up done many bad things so I relate and when people talk crap on it it angers me that's all
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Posted by Kacey (+3159) 10 years ago
And most the stuff I went off on is true and reason this town sucks so bad is cause of people like you people that don't wanna fix it cause there to blind to see the real world book smart people that have never had a hard life. Your the reason this town is failing. Be proud of yourself, or change your mind set show some empathy for people and the issues that plague this town and help fix them insted of being pig headed and shovin it off like its not true.

Miles City is NOT failing. There are many healthy happy people who live there. They choose to make their lives positive. They don't turn to alcohol when things go bad. They take stock of their lives and work to fix what needs to be fixed. They don't turn to drugs to drown their sorrows. Those are choices you made which in turn made YOUR life fail.

Book smart people have hard lives too. You have no idea as to the pain and sorrow most people who post on MC.com have experienced. Have you ever buried a child? I have. Have you watched your spouse die and be brought back to life? I have. Perhaps your arrogance is part of your downfall.

You are still a very angry person who could use some anger management counseling. You need some reality therapy too. Apparently the drugs and alchol really messed up your ability to think.

And if you have so many friends who have been close to suicide then perhaps you need to change your circle of friends. Find some people who aren't frying their brains on drugs. Find some people who have some solid values. People who work hard to make the best of their life. If you don't know any go to a church. Ask for some help and support. You will be welcomed with open arms.

I hope you get a handle on this soon. Life goes by way too fast. You never know if today is your last.
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11757) 10 years ago
So, when you bailed on your Wal(l) Mart job because your father passed away, you actually didn't care that he passed away. So, how was that an excuse? We were supposed to feel sorry for you losing your father in one thread and not care that your father died in another?

You need to get your stories straight, son, and then you need to get your head straight. Your anger at the world will never go away because the world will always remain indifferent. What you need to do is get counseling and possibly medication to change your point of view.

As someone who HAS depression and has been treated for it for more than thirty years, I can tell you that blaming the town, your elders, your employer, or anybody else will not help because they are not responsible. You and your brain chemistry are and you need to accept that responsibility, grow up and get treatment.
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Posted by Jeff Denton (+763) 10 years ago
An interesting report on a news channel this morning gave some reasons only one in four American teens can find any sort of summer employment, apparently this is much worse than ever. I didn't know that. It mostly boils down to simply "times are hard". Then they pointed out examples of teens who do well by using their heads and becoming the neighborhood entrepreneur.
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Posted by frost (+54) 10 years ago
Ok im getting pissed off. I didn't care my father died no but im the oldest son I have obligations to get poop done for his funneral and poop ok. And im not a angrey person. My friends I do have are clean and deff not from here.

And yes miles city is a poop hole. You have croupt cops all over and if u don't see that you a procreateing retard. You put a judge in that's a procreateing drunk. You got a mayor that thinks hes god and can do whatever. You have cops spns that can't be touched cause there dadys gets them off. Lol pathetic.

And ya havnt had a kid die or a spouse but I did see a friend get crushed by a stand of tubing that fell out of a derick you all think im young and angery and arrogant no no you just can't see threw the bullpoop you made yourself to believe its called habitual liars that lie and make themselves trully believe it.

Like I said before im very nice helpfull and careing. And you have me all misconstrude. The funny part is you don't know who I am and if you did it would blow your mind lol so keep being ignorant.
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11757) 10 years ago
I'm sure that in his mind, frost is kind, caring, compassionate, intelligent fellow. How he presents himself here is a sad, angry, lost child in desperate need of counseling. All I can respond to is the angry, hurt child who keeps posting.

Please, get help before your misdirected rage destroys your life. You are young, You can get help and get turned around. We are not calling you names, we just want you to see how messed up you are.

Get help. If you hate it here, leave and move to somewhere perfect and get help there. But get help! Every word you post here is a cry for it.

The world is a cruel, uncaring place and everyone here has suffered tragedies you cannot imagine but we have learned where anger needs to be directed and where help can be obtained. We have learned there is no perfect place on earth so we don't depend on the external to make us happy.

Get help and learn how to be happy. It can be done. If you don't, your rage will follow you even if you find perfection on earth.

GET HELP. Stop being angry. You can find peace and happiness if you try but you have to make the effort. Please, for your sake, GET HELP.
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Posted by frost (+54) 10 years ago
Omg this makes me laugh. Im done with this conversation. I refuse to have a battle of wits with unarmed oppents
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+17343) 10 years ago
Poor frost....he is the next Curt Kobrain.

Tell me, frost.....do you happen to be 27 years old????
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Posted by frost (+54) 10 years ago
Naw I got bout 4 years. And curt cobaine was a freaking idiot
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Posted by cash (+101) 10 years ago
Of course the suicide rate is high here, 90% of the land is owned by ten % of the people. Multi-million dollar assholes like the gaskells have rainy day funds that can rebuild the town two times over. However they say no that is not true we just have assets ande land etc (same thing) If you want the young men to stop killing themselves, open a tity bar you conservative pr-cks. Show a young man a good supply of hair pie, he will put the gun down.

My point is ,if you want young people to be satisfied and happy with their situations and life, give them a hobby. That does not mean build a gym and have the cops go harrass the young people that use it./ Why not do as that skater suggested and build a skate park. Let me guess two more resource officers to pass out baseball cards at the schhol is more important than our kids livlyhood. The resource officers pay checks would pay for a bad ass skate park, but the mayor and cops want you to kill your selves. That explains why they only semi disassociate with cops that beat up old women instead of criminally chargeing them. Bottom line, fire the pigs use the cashg for the kids. RIGHTEOUSNESS!

[This message has been edited by cash (6/30/2011)]
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Posted by ABE (+421) 10 years ago
Wtf ? Who shook the stupid tree around here? Stupid nuts are all over this place.
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr. (+14950) 10 years ago
It appears that Cash has switched from Cannabis sativa to Cannabis ruderalis.
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4461) 10 years ago
Somebody could use a little Sociology 101.
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Posted by Chelsee (+91) 10 years ago
I find this thread ironic. You are arguing that (with Frost) Miles City is a great caring wonderful town filled with caring considerate people. Maybe you should go back and read your posts. The things you are saying and the way you are saying them are very contradicting. I by no means believe Miles City to be a horrible town. Having said that I also feel the proof is in the pudding. We obviously have a problem here and instead of fighting about who is wrong or who is right maybe we should come up with a game plan on how to fix this sad issue.
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Posted by Jade S (+153) 10 years ago
Cash gives me Aaron Bruce flashbacks.

At any rate, I am not convinced that suicide has anything to do with where you live. As a military wife, I have lived in my share of different locales. Suicide rates were higher on bases than out in town regardless of per capita numbers. The bases had more hobby, recreation and programs than their civilian counterparts, yet their rates are at epidemic levels. If a pool or gym or hobby center or bucket of cash was all it took to combat suicide, we would see a reduction in the rates of death.

I wish I had the answer.
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Posted by Kacey (+3159) 10 years ago
Cash,
Do you actually live in Miles City? If so go down to the mental health center. It's right by the hospital. Take anyone else with you that is spouting total insanity on here. Help clean up Miles City!!
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Posted by Skye (+381) 10 years ago
Agree with Chelsee, has anyone stuck in the 1950's heard of cyber bullying? HELLO!!! You are by NO means any better by making a rude comment to someone who your refer to as an "idiot." And you call yourself adults? Go ahead and bash me for it! Prove me wrong! Suicide/depression are very serious things! They are two things that just don't magically disapear.and bullying people may not be the cause of suicide/depression but it sure as hell doesn't make the person suffering feel any better!
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Posted by frost (+54) 10 years ago
Aww cyber bullying is a start and most just proved your point ten fold on me. And cash good points
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