Yesterday my family, including our kids, went out to Dodens Island out towards Kinsey. Not a few feet from the path while we were walking around we discovered a MURDERED mother dog, her 3-4 month old puppy, and a whole sack of newborn puppies dead. By the sight of them this injustice had occured only approx 5 to 7 days ago. This has been reported to the local police. Please if anyone knows of someone who owned a redish colored border collie mix, had a little redish colored border collie puppy, and the mother would have been pregnant please contact the local Miles City police department. This injustice should not go unpunished!!!!! And right before Mother's day!

Thank you NicoleB

Nicole, there is no next life. You can tell me there is, but there isn't. I say it with as much faith as you have. Anyway, maybe that was a special place to that person? Maybe they were scared a person like you would see them burying the dogs and report them on MC.com.

It would cost money for the dogs to be spayed and neutered, and it would cost money to put them to sleep. Couldn't the person have left them at the pound? Sure, they might have been put to sleep anyway but at least they would have had some chance. They wouldn't have suffered by being tied up in a bag to die.

Smiley seriously........wow. Have fun with that one

I would change your name though...I can think of a good one

NicoleB...very well and beautifully said! YOU have a heart and heart of FAITH! This is what might be separating some of us from the others.

Smily...all I can say it that was a pretty BIG statement you made about what happens when we pass from this earth. I feel real sad for you and pray for you. I agree with NicoleB who found the mother dog and her pups....the person/s responsible for this...did not have much of a heart. You seem very sure of yourself, Smily and what you have to say and that is your right. I just happen to feel sorry for you...something in your life has made you have a hardened heart.

This post is getting No WHERE! Thanks NicoleB for bringing this to everyone's attention. I am sorry you and your kids had to find this lovely sight....I just hope who ever is responsible thinks twice about owning a animal.

luvlife,

Who said, it was her and her kids? read again,

I think you are right though, these is getting know where, what is done is done, let it go. 54 replies wow ! people do have there own opinions or differences about things. animal cruelty happens everyday all day. nothing nobody can do about it or stop it.

JaDee....I was just going by the very first post by NicoleB....It DOES say her family...including her kids....found these dead animals while out for a family walk out at Doeden's.....just going by what I read.
I guess the whole purpose for this was just for people who wanted to make a stand for abused, neglected animals....and some people just took off with it and added some (HUMOR) to it.

Whatever....just refuse to see anything funny about it! I am done with this, too....just wanted you to read that the very first post of this topic does say...MY FAMILY....INCLUDING MY KIDS!!!!

SO DONE!

Luvlife,

don't get angry always remember luvlife.

sooooooo...

how about them Lakers??

animal cruelty happens everyday all day. nothing nobody can do about it or stop it.

Of course there is something that can be done about it if enough folks try and cheers to the folks that try daily to stop animal abuse of any kind...

Saying you are going to pray for me won't earn you any brownie points with your imaginary friend god. Last checked, Praying for apathetic, or argumentative, foes is NOT in the bible. I know it pretty well to make that statement.


Edit; too soon? p.s Dr. Demento sings this, and I really don't think he's going to kill a baby or a puppy even.



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Smiley, what precisely are you bringing to this conversation other than a fundamentalism which is no less obnoxious in its atheism as the christianist variety?

Yeah, I think some of the people here are a little overboard and somewhat overbearing when it comes to pet welfare - but on the other hand, discovering a bag of dead puppies is somewhat beyond the pale of pet care. We can probably find a happy medium, but really, in the grand scheme of things, obsessing over pet welfare is far less deleterious to the public good than, say, voting republican.

Whenever you realize there is no need to compensate for whatever you're compensating for when you drink that horrible yuppie beer, you have my vote for supreme fascist ruler.

What's the name of that terrible lye soaked fish poop Gunnar eats? I'll draw the comparison between that and dark beers next. That poor man must have been born a hermaphrodite or something.

I am doing exactly that, being obnoxious. I'm actually quite saddened by the passing of the puppies and their mother (for reals) but I couldn't care less about apprehending the suspect. I'd say it was fine reporting it to the police, but it's just the way of the small town people to cry about injustice on a public(well, private) forum.

I'd prefer to discuss religion. I learn a lot more than some pointless gossip.

Smiley...I "AM" SURE THE BIBLE TELLS US TO PRAY FOR THE ENEMY!

You are a young person who thinks you know it all.....YET, has so much to learn.

I did NOT bother to watch your "IMMATURE" little video. Again, I will pray for your heart to soften and maybe you can have something worth while to add to this topic when you grow up.

Hey now, you didn't receive any ringing endorsement.

*Cough Cough*I did contribute to this discussion, search border collie mix HERE and you MAY find your culprit. Sheesh.

And additionally, why I MAY have "growing up" to do, that does not include finding a savior that after researching and stuff my brain has concluded to be non-existent(after being a jesus freak for 11 years at least). Furthermore, perhaps you should pray that the AWFUL MURDERER gets locked up and maybe even the death penalty... That would be very christian-like of you.

EDIT: I don't know it all. If I did, I'd gladly tell you who I am pretty sure did this. Actually like 94% sure. But remember, I don't know it all. And since I am a christless individual I am going to hold the name of the culprit to myself. Miles City's Finest are sure to do it...

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*COUGH-COUGH*....well, if you are 94% sure of who the culprit is...we'll just send "Miles City's finest" over to question you!

I don't appreciate you disrespecting the law enforcement officer's...there is NO need for that!

There was NO need to bring religion into it...YOU did that!

I think you are a angry, young person just looking for a arguement...thank you for ALL your positive input on this subject, Smiley. Your last comment sounded like a immature child...na, na....I might know who did it!!! UNREAL!

This is my last post on this....I am never on here and read a few other posts and see where you seem to offer the same kind of help and input....You must be a very unhappy person to try and create hatred when people are just trying to be helpful and positive.

Your last post did not even a deserve a reply....it was so immature!

To those of you who DO care about animal cruelty...Thank You!

Where's remnantsoul when we need him?

luvlife - If you go by PETA standards, shooting any animal healthy or not, it is abuse because it is inhumane. The animal could "feel" pain before it dies, or if you have bad aim and the animal don't die instantly ect..
But I am not gonna go there about peta.. yes its good they want better treatment of animals, but that organization is a bit to extreme in most aspects.
Who ever did kill the dog and pups, should be fined for it, but probably won't. Remember the kid who threw that cat in the fire at Kinsey.. did he get in much trouble... NO even though he should have

Feel free to send the cops. I'm sure they wouldn't mind driving 1500 miles to question me over some dead dogs...and PETA is a tad crazy.

Luvlife, not to call the kettle black or anything, but your last post was also immature. I hope you catch the person who did this. That way you and your 13 cats can sleep better at night knowing there isn't a crazy murderer on the loose. Peace

its forums like this that make me appreciate volunteering for the humane society here in Helena and greatly appreciate the volunteers who work endless hours to accomodate these animals. This is a no kill program, that people at least drop their pets off humanely with no questions asked. As a result the shelter is busting out of its seems and they are fundraising for a larger shelter. We have found what we hope are good homes for mama dogs and thier pups, but they are spayed and neutered before they are let go for adoption. There is a fee to adopt and an application process with counselors that talk about the dogs (and cats) needs. the fees help cover the costs of the spay/neuter/feeding/shots etc. The vets are very generous here. (of course there is a lot more here)

My daughter adopted a dog through the vet clinic in Miles City. The history was that our dog and its siblings were left on the pound doorstep and mama was dropped off in the country.

The poor dog had gone through at leadt two owners before we got her at 13 months. The mama we found out that another family in town had "found" and adopted. That's the only reason i know the story on mama. They both ended up with the same names. We did get our dog spayed and she is living happily ever after with my daughter and her beau.

I currently foster kittens and am so pleased that they survived and will find good homes, but again, they will be spayed and neutered. it is now possible through spay and neuter clinics in the state to have your animals fixed with minimal costs. The kitties who are now 8 weeks old will be able to be spayed when they reach two pounds, thus not contribute to the already large cat population.

it would be easy for me to be one of those cat ladies if i had the room and outdoor space, thus i have to let these little sweeties go.

I already have a shelter doggie, and two adopted cats. (all fixed and well cared for- probably a little spoiled)

i realize that Miles City may be too rural to have such a program, but i do think that Dr. Lindley does her best to find foster homes and to place dogs and cats adoptively. at least if she does have to put them down, it is a bit more humane and with deep regret and with dignity to the animal. i am not sure what it would take to have a spay and neuter clinic stop in Miles City but if anyone is interested i can probably find out. They hold them at least monthly in this area.

my two cents worth.

I remember having a free spay and neuter clinic a few years ago. I volunteered and there were a hole bunch of animals that came. Lots of people volunteered to help and it was a blast. I would do it again in a heartbeat. It was Dr. Lindley and other vets from surrounding areas doing the spaying and neutering. I believe it would be a wonderful thing to have this happen again, and I would definately donate my time to help!

Michael LaFayette wrote:

If you go by PETA standards, shooting any animal healthy or not, it is abuse because it is inhumane.

PETA kills more pets than just about anyone. They have some sort of warped mentality concerning the matter.

Don't believe me? How about believing Newsweek?

Newsweek wrote:

Ironically, PETA has emerged as a strong proponent of euthanasia. (The group is better known for its public condemnations of everyone from fashion designer Donna Karan for her use of fur to the National Cancer Institute for its animal research.) In defense of its policy PETA has insisted that euthanasia is a necessary evil in a world full of unwanted pets.

http://www.newsweek.com/2...nasia.html

That's an old article. Their actions are worse now than mentioned there.

WOW ! ! PETA not so great, is it Michael LaFayette

Here comes the animal rights !

NicoleB

Are you going to protest now ?

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I also have a question hopefully someone can answer, Why is this forum still going when everything is done and over with??

Here comes the REPLIES ! !

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Well,however unwelcomed i guess.... i did try to offer a possible solution. the posts after mine decided to concentrate on continuing an earlier argument and to remind us that the post was done. Sad. maybe i am bit rusty with how the game is played now. possibly my post is coming through on a different language and it was easy to miss or no one is looking to rectify the situation for future pet populations.

oh well, probably one of the reasons i don't post as much as i used to.

sad to hear about the mama dog and her pups and for the children and family that had to come across them in such a state.

j stoeckel

ROY- Don't you have something better to do....like go clean the dog crap out of your yard!!!

Funny. Too bad that video doesn't have audio.

nicholeB. i should have read the posts a little closer to realize you were responding to mine. my apologies. i am always amazed how well the cliinics work up here and it takes a lot of manpower. i think if it was available, people would come from miles around and it may circumvent what seems to be a horrible waste to a beautiful animal. (killing them). I don't consider myself a radical animal lover and don't join organizations as a rule. but it does unnerve me to hear about this event and one about the cat being burned. i just don't remember people being so cruel there.

Maybe jean L. would know what is needed to set up another one. I know the ones up here can run close to 100 or more animals in a day. looks like a triage. what is sad is that 100 animals come through in a day with long waiting lists to get in. so, people are interested and it is affordable. it may be worth looking into and it is a great volunteer effort. I think Jean if she had the help and support would do it again.

Levi: Your video made us laugh. Reminds us of our youth. Thank you for submitting it.

Okay there is a group here-Custer County Fund for Animals-that is working to do spay/neuter here in Miles City. No, we do not want (and the local veterinarians don't want) the group we had in the past to come here again. There were too many animals that contacted infectious diseases at the clinic-with some of them dying. Also the local veterinarians had to take care of some emergency aftercare for dogs and cats that developed medical problems with their surgeries. We want to organize the spay/neuter using our local veterinarians. The group has already supplied several thousand dollars to the clinics for spay or neuter. We want to raise more funds to continue to do this. The local veterinarins are on board with us on this-Thank you to East Main Clinic and Miles City vet Clinic. Most of the money has gone to East Main, because they take in the pound animals and try to adopt them into good homes. So we as a group (Custer County Fund for Animals) is paying for some of their care until adopted into qualified homes. The animals are not free from the clinic because the adoptor needs to take some responsiblity for the animal. Any money collected when the animal is adopted goes back into a fund to provide care for the next animal(s) from the pound. Animals from the pound are kept until they are adopted even if it takes a year or more; unless there is not room (at East Main Clinic or through the few foster homes) and then the animal is euthanized. Statistics show if you can spay or neuter 70% of the animal population then the population remains stable. So if you want to help with the over population of pets spay or neuter your animals!! Remember kittens as young as three months can reproduce and littermates will reproduce if kept together. Don't have a litter to let you or your children "experience the miracle of birth". And don't think that it is easy to adopt puppies and kittens into homes when you have a litter. Some dogs can have up to 13-15 puppies! It is hard to find homes for that many animals. Also think of the expenses of raising that many animals until they are ready for new homes. Even if you have a purebred animal they are hard to place in homes. There are many purebred animals that are in pounds and euthanized everyday!
So don't blame the veterinarians or city dog catcher if a dog or cat is euthanized. The blame belongs to the "owner" who turned the animal loose or didn't train the animal. Only 10% if dogs in homes are ever trained. Yes, there are some validate reasons to euthanize animals, but not because "my 6 month old puppy can't be house trained"; I just got my carpets cleaned and the dog has accidents; I can't find homes for this litter;my dog sheds;my dog is too unrulely; I have a new puppy and the old dog is not wanted any more;
I'm moving; my pet keeps having litters (get them spayed or neutered-much cheaper than litters)-------these are all reasons that people have given to have their animal euthanized. Amazing! Remember if you adopt an animal it should be for the life of the animal notwithstanding some unforseen catastrophe. Animals are not cheap they cost money for vaccinations, food, medical problems---Don't get an animal unless you can afford the expense. And if you do get an animal it is your responsiblity to rehome that animal if you have to rehome it. Don't expect other people to do that job for you. There have been so many nice dogs (house trained-not over active-people and animal friendly) and cats (litter trained-declawed(!)-affectionate) come through the local pound you wonder why they were abandoned. Also many puppies and kittens come through-Think before you adopt a puppy or kitten--they are active, untrained, and unruly--maybe you need a older animal that is already calm and trained.
Further information about Custer County Fund for Animals can be found on their facebook and website (new and ongoing).

Or in other words, "Okay there is a group here-Custer County Fund for Animals-that is working to do spay/neuter here in Miles City." ... "Further information about Custer County Fund for Animals can be found on their facebook and website (new and ongoing)."

This message brought to you by the ultimate compactor, the one where you simply take the first and last sentence and 0wn it.

Hey now Mr. "Compactor"... I like search-a-word puzzles.

Not a bad idea, fatass. I think the rules explain themselves.

Okay, that entire post is worthy of an award. What would we do without you Buck?

Something about nirvana, probably.

Wow... This whole post has turned completely ridiculous! Do you realize how pathetic and unattractive you make this community look by posting the crap you do? Anyone considering moving here will definitely change there mind after looking at these kinds of topics. Plus those of you who don't even live in this community but yet find it necessary to get involved, is your community really that boring that you have to keeps such close tabs on Miles City? Wow people, real classy!

Do you realize how pathetic and unattractive you make the human race look? 85% of the Earth's population must fall into the oversensitive whiner category.

We all hope KARMA gets them in the end !

Umm...that very wish tosses you right into the "gonna get it in the end" group, doesn't it?


FH

Are you saying it's bad karma to wish bad karma on someone? Uh oh.

Agree with LT

86%

Normally I wouldn't reply to these sort of things but, I am a dog owner and I lover her just as much as my kid but just the same I think, could the female dog have been sick? or attacked by another animal? yes i hate hearing that people would abuse their animals and show hatred on them but there seems to be variables to what may or may not have happen. It does disgust me and i do feel sorry for the poor girl. but if it MAY have been to the point that she was sick and the owners put her down so she wouldn't hurt then that could be a possibility.

WOW ! ! PETA not so great, is it Michael LaFayette

Naw never seat they were great, I said they were a bit to extreme for my liking..
If you were refering to
People
Eating
Tasty
Animals , then yes it is great

I really just love the people like luvlife that have an opinion, but do not use their real name! I still say that people using an alias really do not have a valid opinion! OWN IT PEOPLE!