Captured or Dead?

8:49 pm

Dead...to my understanding.

Dead, confirmed by DNA.

http://citiesofthemind.wo...aden-dead/

[This message has been edited by howdy (5/1/2011)]

I posted about 30 seconds before the info came out.

Now lets bring our troops home!!!

Woo hoo! I drank several beers in celebration (why did the news have to come during a homebrewers' club meeting?) and I feel both elated and buzzed.

Leave the troops over there until they clean out the rest of the vermin.

When will the long form death certificate be released?

They said they're already processing to start sending troops home. I'm sure it will take time to make it happen, but it's going to happen!

Now there will be no more terrorism .

you will never see terrorism disappear.

Ahh fox news. You never fail to amuse me.

One sure sign that someone is dead is a TV appearance by Geraldo. Funny how that works.

Love how Fox News spelled Osama...note the spelling in the bottom of Josh's picture above...

There is no universally accepted standard in the West for transliterating Arabic words and Arabic names into English, so bin Laden's name is spelled in many different ways. The version translation most often used by English-language mass media is Osama bin Laden. Most American government agencies, including the FBI and CIA, use either "Usama bin Laden" or "Usama bin Ladin", both of which are often abbreviated to UBL. Less common renderings include "Ussamah Bin Ladin" and "Oussama Ben Laden" (French-language mass media). The last two words of the name can also be found as "Binladen" or (as used by his family in the West) "Binladin". The spelling with "o" and "e" comes from a Persian-influenced pronunciation used in Afghanistan where he lived for a long time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._bin_Laden

At least now all those people we tortured can rest a little easier, knowing that their pain and humiliation wasn't in vain.

Osama won a long time ago.

"I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure." - Mark Twain

Mission Accomplished, bitches!

At least now all those people we tortured can rest a little easier, knowing that their pain and humiliation wasn't in vain.

Osama won a long time ago.

Did a single tear roll down your cheek while you typed this?

Did a single tear roll down your cheek while you typed this?

No, but I see little point in celebrating a Pyhrric victory.

Countdown until the wingnuts/birthers claim this was all a conspiracy and bin Laden is still alive

3....2.....1

Alex Jones went another way with it:

Red Alert: Government Had Osama bin Laden Frozen for Years

http://www.infowars.com/r...for-years/

Bridgier Norris-

http://seenow.com/result/...eba05aa4dc


FH

Does anybody know who got fired on "The Apprentice" last night?

Yes... Donald Trump.

My biggest surprise last night was that he had still been alive, as I had always thought he died from his ailments years ago...

Howdy, are you talking about Donald Trump?

No, OBL...LOL, had always heard that he had kidney failure etc etc and thought he croaked years ago...

I think that this is what Bridgier is getting at.

By David Sirota

"USA! USA!" is the wrong response
Bin Laden's death is a great relief, but by cheering it we're mimicking our worst enemies.

There is ample reason to feel relief that Osama bin Laden is no longer a threat to the world, and I say that not just because I was among the many congressional staffers told to flee the U.S. Capitol on 9/11. I say that because he was clearly an evil person who celebrated violence against all whom he deemed "enemies" -- and the world needs less of such zealotry, not more.

However, somber relief was not the dominant emotion presented to America when bin Laden's death was announced. Instead, the Washington press corps -- helped by a wild-eyed throng outside the White House -- insisted that unbridled euphoria is the appropriate response. And in this we see bin Laden's more enduring victory -- a victory that will unfortunately last far beyond his passing.

For decades, we have held in contempt those who actively celebrate death. When we've seen video footage of foreigners cheering terrorist attacks against America, we have ignored their insistence that they are celebrating merely because we have occupied their nations and killed their people. Instead, we have been rightly disgusted -- not only because they are lauding the death of our innocents, but because, more fundamentally, they are celebrating death itself. That latter part had been anathema to a nation built on the presumption that life is an "unalienable right."

But in the years since 9/11, we have begun vaguely mimicking those we say we despise, sometimes celebrating bloodshed against those we see as Bad Guys just as vigorously as our enemies celebrate bloodshed against innocent Americans they (wrongly) deem as Bad Guys. Indeed, an America that once carefully refrained from flaunting gruesome pictures of our victims for fear of engaging in ugly death euphoria now ogles pictures of Uday and Qusay's corpses, rejoices over images of Saddam Hussein's hanging and throws a party at news that bin Laden was shot in the head.

This is bin Laden's lamentable victory: He has changed America's psyche from one that saw violence as a regrettable-if-sometimes-necessary act into one that finds orgasmic euphoria in news of bloodshed. In other words, he's helped drag us down into his sick nihilism by making us like too many other bellicose societies in history -- the ones that aggressively cheer on killing, as long as it is the Bad Guy that is being killed.

Again, this isn't in any way to equate Americans who cheer on bin Laden's death with, say, those who cheered after 9/11. Bin Laden was a mass murderer who had punishment coming to him, while the 9/11 victims were innocent civilians whose deaths are an unspeakable tragedy. Likewise, this isn't to say that we should feel nothing at bin Laden's neutralization, or that the announcement last night isn't cause for any positive feeling at all -- it most certainly is.

But it is to say that our reaction to the news last night should be the kind often exhibited by victims' families at a perpetrator's lethal injection -- a reaction typically marked by both muted relief but also by sadness over the fact that the perpetrators' innocent victims are gone forever, the fact that the perpetrator's death cannot change the past, and the fact that our world continues to produce such monstrous perpetrators in the first place.

When we lose the sadness part -- when all we do is happily scream "USA! USA! USA!" at news of yet more killing in a now unending back-and-forth war -- it's a sign we may be inadvertently letting the monsters win.

Well said, Mr. Sirota! There is no fat lady singing yet.

There will never be a fat lady singing at the end of this play because it will not end. We will always have terrorism, and will always be "in the fight". In fact, this may well embolden the fighters to act out and attack America again.

While the cheering of the death of a person may be somewhat distasteful by some, it is a cheer of victory. Victory over someone evil. People cheered when Hitler died, and at the end of WWII. Having pride that America has eliminated one of it's biggest threats is not a bad thing. America has never seen Muslims as the threat, but rather individuals who hide behind the religion.

What was witnessed on 9/11 was cheering by a group of people that were happy to see innocents die in a sucker-punch attack. They were happy because they thought that it would bring an end to an entire country. An entire group of people they hated because of who they are as a group.

People did not cheer in '45 because the Germans were on the decline, but because a bad man was dead. We do not cheer, as they did on 9/11, because a group of people have been hurt, but because one very bad man's influence has been eliminated.

Two very different things.....

And here's hoping wherever he ended up in life hereafter, he enjoys the pleasure of dying another death for each one of those lives he stole from the world.

Unfortunatly given the state of world politics and our incesant <sp?> need to bury our noses in the middle of it; I fear this to be more like a battle between someone who never sees it as a "we're even" but more of the "well now I need to get even again." In short if we can't learn to keep out of Middle Eastern politics, there's going to be an all out war between us, not just a "War on Terror".

I hope he comes back as a rich, Jewish teenager in NYC who films an episode of My Super Sweet 16. America, f*ck yeah!

Cory - GREAT POST! Thank you!