I am extremely upset right now, but I will save my diatribe after the main message....

Tonight I received a phone call from my extremely upset 75 year old mother, who was attempting to fly from Miles City to Denver today. She had arrived at the airport over an hour before the scheduled departure time, before the TSA-contracted security personnel arrived.

She had presented her card to the contracted personnel that stated that she had a pacemaker installed (the result of a stroke a month ago), which of course sets off the metal detector. Although she is an elderly woman and is clearly no threat to anyone, the contracted rent-a-cops decided that she needed the full pat down. Given the options, she chose the private search in the tiny MC Airport bathroom.

After going through the humiliation of having all her private regions thoroughly handled by the contracted Transportation Security Administration hourly waged employees, they told her that she had failed their screening, and was not allowed to board the plane.

What next?

The TSA contractors did not know, for they were unable to contact their supervisor.

So, they called the sheriff's office. A deputy came and took her home. He didn't have a clue what to do next, never have encountering such a situation.

When asked to rebook a flight, mom was told the only one she can get on leaves at 5:00 a.m. tomorrow. So, she has to be at the airport tomorrow at 4:00 a.m. tomorrow, and there is no guarantee that she will pass through security again, event though she possessed all the required paper work.

I will now post this, and move to a reply to begin my diatribe.

WTF, Miles City!!!

TSA Rent-a-cops Lisa Baker and Kate Kale (I could be off on the second name), SHAME ON YOU!!!! Where on earth is your COMMON SENSE?!?!?!!

My SEVENTY-FIVE YEAR OLD MOTHER can barely walk....DO YOU THINK AL QAEDA WIRED HER TO BLOW UP A GREAT SHAKES COMMUTER?!?!??!!??? OVER EASTERN MONTANA!!!!

WTF!!!!! ARE YOU PART OF THE CHEMTRAILS CONSPIRACY? (that is the only thing I can think of that would explain your stupidity, and that is really stretching the credulity index).

TSA should be abolished.

Period.

Terrible idea to begin with....George W. Bush was and is an idiot.

Fly at your own risk. Must....resist....posting....more.....diatribes....

That is ridiculous! Why did she fail the screening groping? Did they find a bomb in her bra? Is she going to have pay for the ticket she couldn't use? What are the standards? I am mad for your mom because I like your mom and made about everyone else the TSA makes suffer unnecessarily.

Grrrrrrr. Words cannot express.

This TSA nonsense really worries me! My ex-husband takes our daughter to visit her family in Virginia about once a year. If an elderly woman can't pass their screenings... then how can a 7 year old child expect to?!

Before moving to Miles, I travelled for work. The security was pretty nuts already... and from what I've seen on the news and heard about lately, it's only gotten worse.

TSA definitely needs to be gotten rid of...

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Please Gunnar, go further with this story, send it to TV news outlets.

That is absolutely ridiculous! What part of the screening did she fail? Will the same TSA nimrods be there in the morning? Please let us know how we can help. If she can wait until Weds, I'd gladly drive her to Denver.

Sorry Gunnar for your mom. This situation stinks.

Gunnar,

Sympathies to your Mom and you for this horrible experience. We too have had family members "embarrassed" by this agency. Son and son-in-law both veterans, both extensively "examined" for reasons that were never revealed. Son-in-law has bullet wound shrapnel in his body still from one of his multiple tours, sets off the metal detector and even though he has the appropriate paperwork, it's as if he's the new Unibomber. Mind you, this is a decorated, wounded, multi-tour American soldier and he's treated with this kind of discourteous, shameful disrespect.

I completely agree with your sentiments. Send private email if your Mom needs assistance, I'll help out.

She had arrived 1 hour before boarding and told them she had a pacemaker at check-in. Security didn't start screening until 15 minutes before the flight.

Lisa Baker pushed her hard on the chest twice after she had notified them she had a pacemaker. That sort of blow can dislodge the wires.

Elderly ladies with pacemakeres UNITE!!!! You go girl...Call the press and make them famous!! Please fight this for all us older seniors that have the same device in our chests..

How did she "fail" the screening? That doesn't even make sense to me if they didn't find something that wasn't allowed on the plane.

can you say lawsuit?

Did she fly out this morning?

Gunnar:

Your report warrants an investigation. I'll contact the appropriate authorities and demand that one be initiated immediately.

Joe

She made it to Denver this morning.

I would request a response, in writing, from the TSA detailing what standards were used and how she failed them. That would be the start.

I'm surprised they didn't just use the non-response of "Ever since 9/11..."

They like to pull that out like it magically explains things they can't.

I never heard of somebody "failing" a screening and not being told why they "failed."

Although I totally believe the TSA is an unnecessary and over-bearing agency, I think there is a missing piece of this puzzle. I don't think people should say TSA is totally at fault for this situation without knowing all the facts. Hopefully if an investigation is conducted the findings will get reported here.

FM...it's not the TSA...it's a contracted private company working under the TSA

It does not happen just to old ladies. I have flown alot in the past past decade both for work and pleasure. I seem to frequently be pulled out for added scrutiny. I was even pulled out for the added scrutiny by the Austrailians when I went over there on vacation. That being said, I believe in profiling and as almost every time you see a picture of a terrorist he invarably looks like an arab. I doubt that they will start recruting old ladies because they have more sense than going along with some stupid suicide mission. I suspect this is another example of someone given a little authority and it goes to their head. Keep us posted on the this story. Leif

Maybe if you weren't such a pothead?

That sucks, Gunnar. My mom has cut down on her air travel a lot since the new rules came into place. She ALWAYS gets a pat-down because of her fake knees, hip, etc. It's ridiculous.

When I was home on leave from Iraq I got stopped at the Denver airport. I was in uniform (DCUs) the same uniform I had worn on numerous missions in Iraq. Their little "explosive sensing detector" picked up traces of gun powder and explosives on my uniform even after washing the uniform several times and assualt pack I had as a carry on. So I had to go through their whole groping session with them. I told the TSA Gastopo that I was a Soldier returning to Iraq and of course he would find trace on me. While all this is going on I see an Middle Eastern descent couple just breeze through the security station.
For them to harass an elderly women and to assualt her by pushing her in the chest is out of line. Hopefully they will be dealt with.

Leif Ronning wrote:

every time you see a picture of a terrorist he invarably looks like an arab

Jeff Newby wrote:

I see an Middle Eastern descent couple just breeze through

So the complaint is that TSA is being unreasonable in their searches of honest Americans who happen to be flying with chunks of metal and traces of explosives in their clothing but failing to stop people who are clearly guilty of not being white.

When I flew out of Miles City to Gillette I was the only one on the plane, flying over some of the most desolate parts of the lower 48, and the TSA agents found "bomb residue" on my sneakers. I was detained, questioned, patted down and harassed before being allowed to board. During the flight I remembered I had fertilized my lawn a few days earlier and had been subsequently watering it thereafter and that must have been the source of the "bomb residue". In short the whole exercise was futile, unnerving, and just wrong. Anyways much respect to our soldiers, elders and our ethnically diverse populous (peeps who are not white) and boooo TSA quit wasting money and peoples time.

This situation is absolutely appalling to me! I cannot believe how your mother was treated. I would definitely shout this from the tallest tower and ensure that everyone knows about it. It is one thing to try to keep people safe an secure. It is another thing entirely to mistreat and violate people in the name of security. I feel sorry for your mother and her ordeal.

Stacie Miller

Anybody remember Johnnie Thomas and her on-going battle with the TSA?

Johnnie Thomas was a menace to society.

You will burn in hell for comments like that, Buck.

Any updates? Have you gotten a written response from the TSA detailing what standards were used and why your mom failed them? An apology? Anything at all?

Mom called me up and put a gag order on me.

And you are listening to her NOW?

Don't listen to her, Gunnar. I never listen to mine.

I don't know, Richard. A woman like Johnnie couldn't possibly sit idle while idiots like aaron bruce, daniel allen, and James "It's no coincidence my name is Lynch" Lynch continue to gain dumbass supporters. That would obviously be considered terrorism of some sort. Her very presence would strike fear into poor, little danny and isn't fear how terrorists win?

I'm pretty sure that it's the same three people (plus the occasional troll) posting on mc.home. He's bringing in the top web designer from stormfront, so there's that, but I'd hesitate to use the term "gaining"" - perhaps "exposing" would be more accurate.

AND he is adding a counter. Three digits should suffice.

Bridgier, you're probably right, but it has become much more acceptable to bring their special brand of congenital defect into the light of day. Don't pretend you didn't enjoy James "It's no coincidence my name is Lynch" Lynch, either. You know damn well that Gunnar is right and really it just makes the fact that our Catholic skulls pave hell's roads worth the eternal fire.

Buck Showalter wrote:

it just makes the fact that our Catholic skulls pave hell's roads

Well, between this and the Washington School discussion, I think my long held theory that Buck Showalter == Billy Plowman is well and truly dead.

Gunnar--I was on that flight along with 2 other folks. I can tell you that the woman working for TSA (Trinity Technology Group contractors) that morning was beyond rude and full of herself. It was evident that she is not loved by too many of the other folks that work at the airport. The pilots were appalled with her behavior and made a phone call to report her behavior while we were waiting on the plane. It was simply absurd and I'm so very sorry for Betty. If I can be of any assistance to your family in trying to get this resolved please do certainly contact me.

Libby S wrote:

made a phone call to report her behavior while we were waiting on the plane.

That is good to hear. Maybe the pilots complaining will have some effect. There are some people who get off on the tiniest bit of power and this sounds like one of those cases.

The reason I put a gag order, was my lawyer said posting this on Miles City.com would make me a laughing stock. And yes, I'm still stressed over the incident. And I did figure out what was wrong with the process and why I failed twice the glove test Monday afternoonand passed Tueday morning at 4:a.m. The security officer was totally mystified. The Trace substance could be on any one of you, but more likely on a 75 year old lady.

I don't think 'laughing stock' is the reaction you got here. Here, you got sympathy.

I disagree, "laughing stock" is exactly what she should be. She came to a forum, posting her side of a situation (with extremely exaggerated details) and expected what?

This goes much further than your general rant towards something. She mentioned 2 real peoples names. That alone should be enough to have this thread removed. Think of the implications of someone posting YOUR name here saying very outlandish things. (not to mention that the 2 people mentioned probably have no clue that they are being slandered) That could cause very real safety issues in their real lives.

My next issue would be the extreme exaggeration of what happened that day as I was one of people in line right behind her AND I was also pulled for more screening. (which is not unusual, I travel quite a bit)
I was right there and I must say first of all, that lady waited until the very last minute to let them know she has a pacemaker (which is NOT why she was pulled) Withholding information certainly doesn't expedite the process now does it? The entire problem they were having was with some "chemical" on this woman's clothes. The detectors continued to go off, ITS THEIR JOB to not allow passengers with "alarms" to board. That is not even what makes me so mad about all this...

The lady Kate that was one of the names mentioned GAVE THIS WOMAN A RIDE HOME AND PICKED HER UP THE NEXT DAY.
I was there, I personally witnessed the professionalism exerted by BOTH women who were mentioned. They did not want to hold this woman up. Do you really think they like situations like this? Better yet, how would you feel if you were just doing your job trying to protect people, only to be ridiculed by COWARDS and LIARS....and you wonder why people from your area are considered "rednecks" and people who do very private things with farm animals???? Good job Miles City!!!
Keep it classy..

Edit: I forgot to mention the other lady that was named (had someone saying bad things about people there not liking her/the pilot something like that. Yes, she did in fact go talk to the pilot directly about the situation trying to PLEAD with him to wait. The pilot refused, the flight left on time, and you know the rest...



D. Davidson

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Dave Davidson wrote:

I disagree, "laughing stock" is exactly what she should be. She came to a forum, posting her side of a situation (with extremely exaggerated details) and expected what?

Maybe she expected a little fundamental reading comprehension. Look a bit more closely at the poster's names.

Also! Since there are more than a few "Dave"s here already, I think that you should change your name to something more fitting, like "Custer"

Oops, look who's the laughing stock now.

Dave Davidson wrote:

She mentioned 2 real peoples names. That alone should be enough to have this thread removed.

SHE did not mention any names. Go read her posts again.

"Dave Davidson" expects us to believe the veracity of his eyewitness account at the airport but he can't read this thread (something he can study all day long if he needs to) and provide an accurate report of who said what.

I also like how he was in line right behind her, he presumably cleared security, boarded the flight (which departed on time), and can still vouch for the fact that TSA Kate "GAVE THIS WOMAN A RIDE HOME AND PICKED HER UP THE NEXT DAY". Perhaps he and TSA Kate are good friends and he got the story straight from the horse's mouth.

Yeah, nothin' screams "truth" like setting up an account a month AFTER the beginning of the thread, and posting immediately after the account was set up.

Plus, either "Dave" is lying about Betty's ride home or Betty and Gunnar are lying about Betty's ride home. Knowing Betty and Gunnar and not knowing "Dave," I am inclined to believe the Clan Emilsson.

Tell the old lady just be thankful that it was the TSA and not cop davis or the mcpd. They would just whipp her old ass, and ask wyatt to not send any complaints to helena. The good ole boys own you pesants, dont look for harbaugh to save you he is the ring leader.This is only my opinion. Why does wyatt or harbaugh not arrest and prosecute these tsa thugs, they raid people for having or selling a gun, and the constitution gives us that right. They probably wipe with the constitution, procreating as munches.

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What a classless a$$hole you are Cash!!!

cash wrote:

Tell the old lady just be thankful that it was the TSA and not cop davis or the mcpd.

It's not "the old lady", it's Mrs. Emilsson. Show some respect. The light is on but nobody is "home".

I understand it is Mrs Emillson, and my feelings go out to her, or anyone who has suffered degredation at the hannds of the authoritian rulers. If that ruler is a cop or a TSA agent or the CIA, I am on her side. Just as I am on the side of the judges wife that was assualted and scared half to death by a six foot five thug cop in miles city. I call her a old women, but that is a term of endearment from where I sit, because I am one of the only people you will ever meet that would have went to jail if I seen her get groped. You and these cops would tell her to be calm it will be over soon just don't upset them. You are right I am rude crude and socially unacceptable, but I will stand for the pesant come hell or high water or prison. This aggression on the people by the authoritain rulers must end. Mrs emillson, I wish I had been there to belt that communist agent in the head for you, sorry that freedom has gone stray. Maybe one day when a community member is harrased or otherrwise intimidated we can pull together to help bring them justice.

Yanno.. cash... Arizona and Nevada have a LOT of land that isnt habited.. might be a good idea for you to take your classless, moronic, angry ass out of town and put up a stake somehwere..

really.. why post your drivel when no one is gonna "follow" you.. at least no one with the ability to use only 4 percent of their brain.

I call it drivel, because your point is NOT being made with any objective intelligence that people need to accomplish the one thing you seem to want and yet to get: Understanding

geesh...

So we got cops in town that "beat people" and cover it up? ya think in a small town like this that maybe someone somehwere would actually WITNESS this? Or more people would actually SAY something about it.... so all a cop has to do is ask you not to tell, and ALL the people that have gotten "beaten" would stay silent...

you are an idiot who really needs to go..

And if I got this wrong, then I am an idiot who isnt going anywhere lol.. No one here wants to listen to you and that means no one is gonna go with you, at least the ones with half a brain...

so either shut the hell up or get the procreate outta my town...

had to say it .. i feel better now

aaaahhhh

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Do not feed the TROLL. It only makes the TROLL hungry for more. Ignore the TROLL until he goes away.

This is my town also, as it is the little hoodlum around the corner and the unemployed food stamp recipiant as well that rents from some one. I have been talking to many people and I can and will back my words up with eyewitnesses and first hand accounts. You do not own anything but your feeble words. If you think MCPD will not whoop your ass for no reason try telling them you have the right to privacy the next time they ask for more Proof of id than the jews had to show in nazi Germany. This is my town, and I will stay here at 815 n 2nd st untill I am good and ready to move on my 20 acres in eagle canyon.

cash wrote:

I have been talking to many people and I can and will back my words up with eyewitnesses and first hand accounts.

You do not own anything but your feeble words. If you think MCPD will not whoop your ass for no reason try telling them you have the right to privacy the next time they ask for more Proof of id than the jews had to show in nazi Germany.

This leads to the question of WHY you have interacted with police that lead for them to ask for more id stuff... what are you doing that causes the police to HAVE to interact with you? Most resident of ANY city have no interaction with police other than just seeing them around town doing their job.. what makes them single YOU out for these "beatings" and these "show me your papers" incidences?

Of course, if I am drunk or drugged out on who knows what or even just deranged in some sort of mental state, and cause trouble, the police are going to get involved. And when interaction to them in response to my behavior causes me to become either physically or VERBALLY violent, then yeah, I would expect the police to amp up their tactics in order to calm the situation down. SOunds to me that you think that them needing a little extra force to put those handcuffs on your, or anybody elses struggling to avoid that, is "abuse."

TLDR: you WANT and WELCOME some sort of violent interaction, either physically or verbally... hence the reason you listed your address.

cash wrote:

This is my town, and I will stay here at 815 n 2nd st untill I am good and ready to move on my 20 acres in eagle canyon.

What can we do to help facilitate your relocation?

To Amorette: hehee There is a TROLL in ALL of us

I figured someone needed to get to the bottom of this so I filed a FOIA request for the airport security tapes so we could all find out what really happened on the night of Feb. 28th.

Northsiders.

HAHAHAHAHAHA........arent the libs the ones wanting bigger government? it is all we hear from your democratic pie holes....well welcome to bigger government.....i hope the one who did not let her fly was tenured union, and i hope that your taxes are paying her wages, retirement and bla bla bla....hehehehehhehhehe......welcome to obama land......

You are giving credit to the wrong people. TSA was created as part of HomeLand Security, the biggest increase in recent federal government, by George W Bush. Now it was in response to the 9,11 terror attacks so some think it was a good thing. If so, give credit to where credit is do. If you hate bigger government and think it was a bad idea then place the blame where it belongs. It is wrong to use someone else's actions to credit or blame others.

true that, however bush is not in office is he...was gunnars relative abused by tsa under bush? or was she abused under obamas reign? when i argue with my liberal friends their most often used rebutal is "well, it was ok when bush was doing it"

there is no difference in the two. dems repubs...all the same...

the reality of it all is that you are either constitutional or communist. those are the choices, obama and bush are not constitutional.

My God! I can't beleive I grew up in Miles after reading some of the stupidity posted here. It's all Bush's fault. I think some of you people need to buy Kazinski's cabin, it is for sale or maybe you should move to Jordan and start the Freeman thing backup. Dave posts here as to what he saw and experianced and you basically call him a liar but beleive every word that Gunnar posted as honest to God's fact even though it was second hand. I know if I was one of the 2 TSA agents I would be talking to a lawyer about suing Gunnar ( yes I did say Gunnar as I read this whole thread and know who said what) for slander on a public forum. Although he probably doesn't have a pot to piss in since he blames Republicans for everything. And since I just signed up today you can disregard anything I say even though I have been reading a lot of the stupidity on here for months. It is nice to know there are some level headed people on here but they are few and far between. Others here like Amorette. I am sure if you went to their home you would find a closet full of tin foil helmets. http://milescity.com/forums/emoticons/lol.gif

Gomer, you need to read the instructions on posting.

I always thought the tin foil helmets belonged to the conspiracy theorists and the chemtrail nuts. We certainly have gotten a few of them lately. Sigh. We used to have intelligent conversations. I miss them.

I also think a son defending his elderly and ailing mother is a noble thing but then I respect the elderly.

The problem with Miles City airport security will be dealt with. It's been delayed because my attorney is not well. I wish I could tell you more.

I did read the posting rules. What rule did I break? If you can name some let me know what they are and I will remind you of the rules that Gunnar broke and you did not chastise him. i.e. rule #1 the one about liable and defamatory. So until you enforce the rules equally don't enforce them at all. I also respect the elderly but also know that elderly do not always see things or remember things the way they actually happened. My mother is 77 and I am smart enough to know that sometimes the wheat needs to be separated from the chaf. My point is many of you were so quick to call Dave out, who supposedly is an eyewitness to what happened but you jump on Gunnar's side and he was a second hand account as to what happened

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Goober, Amorette was simply trying to point out that you didn't read the instructions for properly putting a in your post.

Take some time to study up on "libel" and "slander" and then come back and tell us how each pertains to this discussion.

What is the deal with TSA Kate's circle of friends here? Is the low I.Q. representative of the TSA as a whole?

Gomer wrote:

My point is many of you were so quick to call Dave out, who supposedly is an eyewitness to what happened but you jump on Gunnar's side and he was a second hand account as to what happened

Did you even read the thread?

Libby S *was* an eye witness, nothing "supposedly", and posted about it 3/6/2011 12:24:28 PM, about halfway up the page if you're lost. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I think that "lost" is putting it nicely.

I question your motives, defending a one hit wonder who also can't read very well.

Yes Dave I did read the whole thread. Did you read what I said? I was talking about Gunnar and his second hand info and Dave and his supposed eyewitness account. I say suppossed because I do not know any of the people involved and I have no motives, I just do not like people who are quick to condemn someone just because what they say does not agree with what others believe. Who's to say Libby S is telling the truth. Ever think about that? There are 2 sides to every story and these forums almost never have the complete truth on them about anything. Is TSA a pain in the butt? Yeah but hey they are here to stay and you better get used to it. Do some of them have attitudes? yeah but get used to it. Is a 75 year old woman from MC going to blow up an airplane? More than likely not. But what are you people going to do when TSA stops checking 75 year old women and a 75 year old woman blows up a plane? I can hear it now, Boy that TSA is a joke, why weren't they screening 75 year old women? Trust me I have to go into airports and get on the concourses to do work I have been finger printed and background checked by the FBI so I can do this and I hate the TSA more than probably anyone because of the hassles I have been put through by TSA agents who know me by name, but they are just doing their jobs. Get used to it. And by the way it is not Bush's fault. And to the guy about the emoticon mistake I made. That would be instructions not rules. When Amorette asked if I read the posting rules it was safe to assume she meant posting rules as agreed to when I signed up not emoticon posting instructions. And where are these emoticon posting instructions? So that the next time I feel the need to use one I can do it correctly just for you.

I could build a house with bricks like that.

Just one question for Elizabeth. Did the TSA agent named Kate give you a ride home and bring you back to the airport the next day? A simple truthful yes or no is all that is needed.

Amorette Allison wrote:

Gomer, you need to read the instructions on posting.

Funny, the word "rule" does not appear in my post. Nope. Not at all. Not even once.

Aside from learning from the INSTRUCTIONS on how to POST (which are below the posting field, just scroll down) may I suggest you learn to use the return key. Throwing in some regular paragraph breaks by using the return key always makes a post more readable.

My rule is if it is one big ol' block o' text, I read the last sentence or two, if that. So, learn how to post and you will find your postings much more readable.

You're right on that, it does say instructions. Any other forum I belong to, you just click on the emoticon you want to use and it shows up. Why yours is different is beyond me.


I also see no instructions for posting emoticons at the bottom. Only youtube, google, pictures and link instructions. I am sorry my computer skills are not up to yours, but I'd bet if you walked into my world you would be lost there.


I am also sorry my grammar disappoints you but I had Mr. Boe as an English teacher and either skipped or slept through most of his classes.


But it is also obvious that you read my entire post even though it was not in proper forum.


Is that enough paragraphs for you?


How's my spelling?

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This "legend" appears at the bottom of the "Compose Reply" page:



http://www.flickr.com/pho...591291630/

Gomer wrote:

Did you read what I said? I was talking about Gunnar and his second hand info and Dave and his supposed eyewitness account.

Who do you think the we're supposed to believe?

I form opinions given information from reliable sources, how do you form yours? A random stranger posts a dissenting (and erroneous) statement and you not only buy it, you have to sign up and spout off about it? Defending an obvious troll and we're supposed to take you seriously?

I'm dumbstruck that you could actually be called for a jury.

Who the hell is "Dave" and while we're at it, does anyone know you? Motives and agendas are questionable for both.

From my view, you're playing Reno to "Dave"'s Custer with the same results.

Amorette, why are you arguing form and not substance?

Kate did not give my mom a ride to the airport the next morning. It was Kathy who checks in the customers who gave her a ride.

Gomer--Much better! See, with a little practice, you can get the hang of it. Larry's forum really isn't that hard to use. And no, I only read the last few sentences. Sorry.

Philip--If the form is terrible, the substance can't be determined. I really don't read those posts that are big blocks of text, no matter who posts them. If you make your argument readable, I will read it. If you can't be bothered to make it readable, I can't be bothered to read it.



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You forgot one...

Seems like some of you (Arron, cash, CP) could learn from this:



http://thisisindexed.com/

OK David, I know the legend is there, I can see it, but I cannot click on a emoticon and attach it to my reply. It does not work. I have tried and tried. All other forums I use I just click the emoticon and it goes
on the reply. WTHeck am I doing wrong? I am on a Mac, does that matter?

Gees Roberts just because you know one poster and not the other you call the one you do not know a troll. Every body on here started with post #1. Even you. There are some on here who would know me if I so chose to give my name. As I said I grew up in MC. But using your mentality I should not beleive any of the Emillsons or you or even the other Dave because I do not know any of you.

Have you never heard of the Devils advocate? That is what I am playing. And yes I would be very good on a jury because I will listen to both sides without any preconceived notions because I may know someone who would be testifying. And I will make decisions based on what is presented to me no matter what. You obviously do not because of the way you so quickly dismiss what Dave said.

I suppose you think no one you have ever known has ever lied to you? Boy are you naive.

hahahaha...hey amorette....get over yourself

Gomer, you have to type the text that's shown in the key. For the laughing out loud emoticon you have to type : lol : (but without the spaces between the colons and the l's). Savvy?

HOLY POOP Why does it need to be that way Why not just click on it It must have taken Amorette 20 minutes to add all the ones to her last post By the way, Got it.

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Steve Allison wrote:

You are giving credit to the wrong people. TSA was created as part of HomeLand Security, the biggest increase in recent federal government, by George W Bush.

Ahh, the infamous King George rears his head again. There were a few hundred Democrats around at the time. I wonder how many of them voted against the legislation that brought us TSA? (Hint: less than one)

In fact the legislation's chief Senate sponsor was Fritz Hollings(D)

And let's not forget the fact that the newest, (most intimate ) revision to TSA policy was the Obama admin's direct response to the underwear bomber.

I'm no fan of TSA. But to keep trying to mint fresh political credit out of it seems kinda disingenuous.

Hmmmm....where to begin? Lets start.

1. I agree with Rick K.'s last post. That does not happen very often.

2. Gomer, seldom has an mc.com poster chosen a more appropriate pseudonym.

3. "Dave Davidson"'s post isn't worth responding to.

Yawn.

Gomer wrote:

Have you never heard of the Devils advocate? That is what I am playing

You're playing something alright.

OOOOOOOH Gunnar that hurt. NOT!!!!!!

Rick, I made no claim one way or the other about the TSA and the system in place. I simply said it is wrong to blame Obama for it's actions. This complaint has nothing to do with any political party actually, it is local people and a local situation no matter how things turn out to have been. My comment was triggered more by the fact that if something they don't like happens, it is somehow related to the party they hate. Both parties get slammed by this and I get tired of seeing it. It was no relevant point and just adds blind anger fog to a conversation. As for the TSA itself, they have good and bad points. They have stopped things being on planes that should not be there and most of the complaints I have heard against them are caused by the person's own arrogance. The old 'I should not have to go threw this, I am a white male so should be exempt' attitude. So I would tend to give a thumbs up to this President Bush program, personally.