Posted by (+846) 16 years ago
I just painfully suffered through quite possibly the worst meeting of any body I have ever observed in my entire life.
This would be the public safety committee meeting of this evening.
First of all, the meeting was never actually called to order, and there was no roll call.
Furthermore, we droned on for nearly 3 hours and conducted, quite astonishingly, nothing. - those will be some interesting minutes for the stenographer to write... What shall she say? Everyone went on and on for 3 hours and said nothing? At least she won't waste much paper.
I must point out that there is a popular 12-step program for some of these folks. It's called on-anon-anon-anon. They meet, apparently, at city hall several times a month!
I am very sad to report that it is my observation that Joe Whalan appears ostracized by his co-councilmen. With the exception of motions which do nothing substantial - such as accepting minutes which are more a matter of fact than anything else - Joe's (quite clear, objective, appropriate and germain to the topic) motions seem to repeatedly die for lack of a second. This is very disturbing to me because this is a new behavior that I have not observed for the year and half I have been attending these masochistic events. This causes acute gastric gyrations within me because Joe appears to be the only one who actually cares - or for that matter - understands what is actually going on. This is really really sad I must say. Perhaps they hate him because he is not an idiot? Could it be jealousy? - That's my bet.
Joe, Keep up the good work - the people are watching.
Back to the title - lest I be committed to join the aforementioned 12-step group myself...
[f] "Bring on the law suits..."[/f]
First of all - YOU MUST FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE MEETING! - YOUR DECISIONS CAN BE CHALANGED AND COST A LOT OF MONEY!
Second - YOU CANNOT DISCUSS DISCIPLINARY SUBJECTS ABOUT EMPLOYEES IN A PUBLIC MILIEU UNLESS THAT EMPLOYEE WAIVES THEIR PRIVACY. THERE ARE LAWS AND UNION CONTRACTS HERE PEOPLE! YOUR DISCUSSION CAN BRING A LAWSUIT AND COST A LOT OF MONEY!
Third - YOU CANNOT DISCUSS AN EMPLOYEE'S PRIVATE MEDICAL CONDITIONS IN A PUBLIC MEETING UNLESS /THAT/ EMPLOYEE HAS WAIVED THEIR RIGHT TO PRIVACY!!!!! HELLO - IS THERE ANYBODY IN THERE!!!!! AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE? SURELY I'M NOT SOME SORT OF MEGA-GENIUS HERE - THROW ME A BONE PEOPLE! THAT CAN CERTAINLY BRING A LAWSUIT AND COST US A LOT OF MONEY!!!!!!!!
There was a lot more - I must add - but you'll have to watch the video - it will be online this weekend - sorry - no time this week.
One last thing - as Mr. (dis) ahner made so clear. He WAS elected by the people - and I was not. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE MARK! You sit in a padded chair, not a golden thrown. I would not recommend making directed attacks at your subjects - it's really bad form, and could cost us a lot of money... GOVERNMENT BY THE PEOPLE MEANS YOU'RE A PEOPLE TOO. If you're trying to be the Mayor - I suggest you shape up - the people are watching!
Oh, and yet another last thing - Mr. Grenz, sir, you cannot have the video camera removed from the meeting unless you change the Montana Constitution - trust me - don't even go there - yup- that's on the tape too. THAT would definitely cost us a LOT of money!!!!!!
Besides, Butch, what are you trying to hide anyway? If you're so embarrassed about your bad behavior - TRY CHANGING IT!
Mr. Partridge was right - it's a clown and circus show. They (the world) is all laughing at US! Perhaps some of you will remember the letter I wrote a year and a half ago where I mentioned that. Perhaps you would enjoy the video of a meeting where a citizen comes bouncing down the isle after the meeting singing circus music?
The organs are grinding folks... Can you hear them? Perhaps the cheap tickets have blinded us to their true value - but they are playing and they do require quarters to keep running. I recommend we stop playing them - but then - who am I - after all, I am not an elected (exalted) ruler.
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Here's a famous quote that I made up myself...
"Ignorance is bliss...
[f] - there's a looooot of f'n happy people out there!"[/f]
(and I'm beginning to think we're on the wrong side of the gate!!!
)
(bring on the comments, I know you can't resist...)
This would be the public safety committee meeting of this evening.
First of all, the meeting was never actually called to order, and there was no roll call.
Furthermore, we droned on for nearly 3 hours and conducted, quite astonishingly, nothing. - those will be some interesting minutes for the stenographer to write... What shall she say? Everyone went on and on for 3 hours and said nothing? At least she won't waste much paper.
I must point out that there is a popular 12-step program for some of these folks. It's called on-anon-anon-anon. They meet, apparently, at city hall several times a month!
I am very sad to report that it is my observation that Joe Whalan appears ostracized by his co-councilmen. With the exception of motions which do nothing substantial - such as accepting minutes which are more a matter of fact than anything else - Joe's (quite clear, objective, appropriate and germain to the topic) motions seem to repeatedly die for lack of a second. This is very disturbing to me because this is a new behavior that I have not observed for the year and half I have been attending these masochistic events. This causes acute gastric gyrations within me because Joe appears to be the only one who actually cares - or for that matter - understands what is actually going on. This is really really sad I must say. Perhaps they hate him because he is not an idiot? Could it be jealousy? - That's my bet.
Joe, Keep up the good work - the people are watching.
Back to the title - lest I be committed to join the aforementioned 12-step group myself...
[f] "Bring on the law suits..."[/f]
First of all - YOU MUST FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE MEETING! - YOUR DECISIONS CAN BE CHALANGED AND COST A LOT OF MONEY!
Second - YOU CANNOT DISCUSS DISCIPLINARY SUBJECTS ABOUT EMPLOYEES IN A PUBLIC MILIEU UNLESS THAT EMPLOYEE WAIVES THEIR PRIVACY. THERE ARE LAWS AND UNION CONTRACTS HERE PEOPLE! YOUR DISCUSSION CAN BRING A LAWSUIT AND COST A LOT OF MONEY!
Third - YOU CANNOT DISCUSS AN EMPLOYEE'S PRIVATE MEDICAL CONDITIONS IN A PUBLIC MEETING UNLESS /THAT/ EMPLOYEE HAS WAIVED THEIR RIGHT TO PRIVACY!!!!! HELLO - IS THERE ANYBODY IN THERE!!!!! AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE? SURELY I'M NOT SOME SORT OF MEGA-GENIUS HERE - THROW ME A BONE PEOPLE! THAT CAN CERTAINLY BRING A LAWSUIT AND COST US A LOT OF MONEY!!!!!!!!
There was a lot more - I must add - but you'll have to watch the video - it will be online this weekend - sorry - no time this week.
One last thing - as Mr. (dis) ahner made so clear. He WAS elected by the people - and I was not. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE MARK! You sit in a padded chair, not a golden thrown. I would not recommend making directed attacks at your subjects - it's really bad form, and could cost us a lot of money... GOVERNMENT BY THE PEOPLE MEANS YOU'RE A PEOPLE TOO. If you're trying to be the Mayor - I suggest you shape up - the people are watching!
Oh, and yet another last thing - Mr. Grenz, sir, you cannot have the video camera removed from the meeting unless you change the Montana Constitution - trust me - don't even go there - yup- that's on the tape too. THAT would definitely cost us a LOT of money!!!!!!
Besides, Butch, what are you trying to hide anyway? If you're so embarrassed about your bad behavior - TRY CHANGING IT!
Mr. Partridge was right - it's a clown and circus show. They (the world) is all laughing at US! Perhaps some of you will remember the letter I wrote a year and a half ago where I mentioned that. Perhaps you would enjoy the video of a meeting where a citizen comes bouncing down the isle after the meeting singing circus music?
The organs are grinding folks... Can you hear them? Perhaps the cheap tickets have blinded us to their true value - but they are playing and they do require quarters to keep running. I recommend we stop playing them - but then - who am I - after all, I am not an elected (exalted) ruler.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Here's a famous quote that I made up myself...
"Ignorance is bliss...
[f] - there's a looooot of f'n happy people out there!"[/f]
(and I'm beginning to think we're on the wrong side of the gate!!!

(bring on the comments, I know you can't resist...)