Enlighten ME Please!!!
Posted by Skye (+381) 11 years ago
Can someone please explain why the United States flies the American flag on Columbus Day, but not 9-11? I realise Columbus discovered American 200 years ago. But 9-11 is a terrorist attack on our country. Shouldn't we fly the freedom flag????
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Posted by Denise Selk (+1670) 11 years ago
I realise Columbus discovered American 200 years ago.


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Posted by Maryann McDaniel (+249) 11 years ago
I am sorry but I am confused. We -- schools, including universiies, public high school, etc. -- all fly and respect the flag. I am referrng to numerous localities and states.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6165) 11 years ago
I realise Columbus discovered American 200 years ago.


In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue. And he most likely landed in the Bahamas. Either you are ignorant of history or you have a severe lack of mathematical skills.

I despair.

I flew my flag on 9/11 but not on Columbus day. Does that make me a Communist?

[This message has been edited by Wendy Wilson (10/14/2010)]
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Posted by Lorin Dixson (+596) 11 years ago
Skye have you been watching Faux news again?
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+17328) 11 years ago
Come now....cut Skye some slack.

I, for one, am more than willing to cut Skye some slack, as Skye is obviously a stripper name. And I always am very nice to strippers, and strippers can attest to how well I tip.

Pictures?
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Posted by Rick Kuchynka (+4463) 11 years ago
Could be worse



All in the name of lecturing someone else about historical accuracy.

Lincoln/Douglas? Never heard of it. But this Angle lady's not too bright.
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Posted by Denise Selk (+1670) 11 years ago
Wendy, I also do not fly my flag on Columbus Day. My knee-jerk reaction above has nothing to do with the fact that Skye is off by more than 300 years, but the fact that Columbus Day is a Federal holiday. What is it we are "celebrating" exactly?
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11757) 11 years ago
Because Columbus Day is a holiday which was first recognized about 100 years ago. It took many years after that before it became one of those "official" holidays i.e. paid days off for government employees. Then later still, it became one of those three day weekend holidays that mean nothing to most of us but give government workers a day off. (I'm a city employee but I don't work on Mondays! Plus I'm part time so there goes paid holidays. Anyway. . . )

If you want September 11 to be some sort of holiday, start at a grass roots level and try to get it declared a local and/or state holiday. I think it would make a whole lot more sense for someone in New York or another state actually effected to begin the effort but who's to say. After a few decades, then try to get federal action to make it a "holiday" and in another generation, it will fall on a Monday.

Now, for days like Thanksgiving or Mother's Day, which always fall on a certain day of the week, flags generally aren't flown then, either. I don't know why.

Oh, and Skye, both your history and your math are equally weak. You might want to brush up on them.

At any rate, I was always under the impression you could fly a flag any day you wanted to? Does Skye mean why do the VFW only put the flags out on official holidays? If so, ask the VFW. I suspect they are just following those official holiday guidelines, ignoring big dinners and parents for some suspicious reason.

[This message has been edited by Amorette Allison (10/14/2010)]
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+17328) 11 years ago
Hmmmm.....is Rick really watching Olbermann to pounce on his faux pas....or is Rick merely following the Blogosphere of Right Winga Paranoia to find such stuff?

I think I will wager:

Rick watching Olbermann: no wager.
Rick watching hate-filled blogosphere: I'll place $100 and give 50:1 odds on this one.

Which means a goodly profit of $5000 is at stake.....should someone cover my initial wager.

Bob L......will you be my bookie?
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Posted by mtgman (+94) 11 years ago
Amorette you are so rude!
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Posted by Bridgier (+9195) 11 years ago
Angle was running around telling everybody that Dearborn MI and Frankford TX are currently under sharia law.

Which came as a surprise to the citizens of Dearborn, but not those of Frankford.

Mostly because it doesn't exist.

So no, Sharon Angle isn't very bright. But I'm sure she's got her head screwed tight in regards to the 17th amendment.
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Posted by stephen (+250) 11 years ago
Skye. . . . I think everyone knows that little phrase about the founding of our country. You sir, are dumb.
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Posted by David Schott (+17055) 11 years ago
I think everyone knows that little phrase about the founding of our country. You sir, are dumb.

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Posted by Smiley (+847) 11 years ago
It was a joke David. I posted it under my hubby's account.

I guess I should have done a rolls eyes....
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Posted by Bob L. (+5095) 11 years ago
Everyone's always asking me to book for them...
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Posted by Skye (+381) 11 years ago
Thank you everone for you're nice compliments. You have proven your selfs to be very mature. There is no need to be rude? If I may try again.
Why don't we fly the American flag on 9-11?
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4461) 11 years ago
You have reading issues, too?
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Posted by Cheryl Gaer-Barlow (+474) 11 years ago
I understand Minnesota refused to fly a flag on Columbus Day because they said there was now sufficient proof the Vikings discovered America long before Columbus. In my opinion, this is true.
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4461) 11 years ago
I heard the Chinese crossed a land bridge well ahead of any Vikings. I'm flying my PRC flag this week.
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Posted by Jeff Denton (+763) 11 years ago
I fly the American flag every day. Sometimes at half mast if I want to or have heard that it was ordered. It is lit at night in accordance with the rules. When one gets tattered it gets replaced, the old one is folded up properly and stored away for a future use that is kind of private.
As far as honoring Columbus goes, it seems to be a ritual or tradition. Like honoring another historical or religious figure's birthday or anniversary of death. Who cares what the facts are, celebrate what you believe in!
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Posted by Steve Allison (+981) 11 years ago
I am confused about this issue, one can fly the flag any and every day. Schools, Government offices and other place fly them every day they are open or in other works there to put them up and take them down. If you feel a day needs special decoration, buy a flag and fly it, it's not against the law and you can even put up a sign that says why you are flying it, like 'in memory of those who died from Sept 9 attacks'.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6165) 11 years ago
Why don't we fly the American flag on 9-11?


How the hell should I know why you don't fly the flag on 9/11? Who are you talking about when you say "we"?
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Posted by Bridgier (+9195) 11 years ago
PRC flag? Splitter. Fly the ROC loud and proud...
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4461) 11 years ago
That's interesting, Bridgier. I guess I grew up thinking Taiwan relied heavily on the US and GB to ward off the evils of communism... then I made friends with a bunch of people from Taiwan.
We've been spoonfed bullpoop and people don't understand why you call the flag a fetish object? Don't get me wrong, I love the US and I wouldn't trade my white male, US citizen status for any other, but don't tell me to love it or leave it when all I ask is that you make sure everything is truly as you believe.

In conclusion I will give you my observations of the Taiwanese:

Taiwanese like the New York Yankees (Chien Ming Wang)
Taiwanese like the Chinese (Wave PRC flags on Chinese New Year, love Yao Ming)
Taiwanese don't like South Koreans (who does, though?)
Taiwanese don't like black people (I'm convinced it results from the lack of an Asian history month)
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4461) 11 years ago
Just so you all know, whenever China's Red Tide decides to arrive, you're going to want to be as close to me as possible. One man procreateing envoy, here.

[This message has been edited by Buck Showalter (10/15/2010)]
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Posted by Bill Freese (+479) 11 years ago
Why don't we fly the flag on 9/11? For the same reason we don't fly the flag on 12/7! We don't fly the flag to celebrate the victorious sneak attacks of our enemies!
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Posted by Smiley (+847) 11 years ago
I don't fly a flag for fear that someone will post my address and pictures of my house when there is a vicious wind storm and I don't have a chance to save it 5 minutes later.
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+11757) 11 years ago
Clever boy, my older brother. MUCH older brother.

Anyway, another interesting thing about Columbus Day. It was created partly in response to anti-immigrant/ anti-Catholic bigotry in the United States. It was not so much about Columbus per se but the contributions non-Protestant Europeans had made to the country.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6165) 11 years ago
We don't fly the flag to celebrate the victorious sneak attacks of our enemies!


I fly it on 9/11 in honor of the people who lost their lives on that day. Isn't that the same reason it's flown on Memorial Day?
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Posted by Rick Kuchynka (+4463) 11 years ago
Sorry, Gunnar. My reply was intended for Lorin, who I'm sure came up with 'Faux News' not from the Kos or Huffpo, but after intensive hours watching Hannity and O'Reilly forming her own opinions.

Bridgier, I'm sure the Frankford thing was just a mixup, as it actually resides in the 52nd of the 57 states, lying somewhere between the non-bordering states of Illinois and Kentucky.

But let's not pretend there's not at least a kernel of truth in the Dearborn thing.

http://michiganmessenger....-amendment
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Posted by Bridgier (+9195) 11 years ago
Yawn.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6165) 11 years ago
But let's not pretend there's not at least a kernel of truth in the Dearborn thing.


Uh, a possible violation of first amendment rights does not equal sharia law. At least as far a reasonable people are concerned.
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Posted by Kacey (+3159) 11 years ago
Wendy,

Rude, just plain rude.


How the hell should I know why you don't fly the flag on 9/11? Who are you talking about when you say "we"?
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4461) 11 years ago
Kacey,

Waaah, just plain waaah.
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Posted by Rick Kuchynka (+4463) 11 years ago
I didn't say it was defacto sharia. The idiom used was 'kernel of truth'

Anyway, just interesting what happens when a mobile church of 4 moves itself a little too close to a Muslim 'Ground Zero' so to speak.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6165) 11 years ago
Kacey,

Skye has been asked several times on this thread what he meant by "we"? He hasn't or won't answer the question. He just keeps repeating his question. How can anyone answer HIS question if we can't figure out what he means? I don't think that's rude at all.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5095) 11 years ago
There is also a "kernel of truth" in the following statement: Rick K. is a bed wetter.

[This message has been edited by Bob L. (10/17/2010)]
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Posted by Tyler R (+62) 11 years ago
9-11-2010

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Posted by Rick Kuchynka (+4463) 11 years ago
Rick K. is a bed wetter.


Hey, beats Depends.
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