Rant about something...ugh.
Posted by Smiley (+853) 13 years ago
Ok, I don't care if you are Christian, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, Hindu, dead, etc...

I used to go to a church youth group. I was on a Christian dance team, and the leader was named Frank. Frank always seemed really nice, and he was always worried about people thinking him giving me a ride home would be inappropriate.

The guy was overall good, leading the youth of this particular church. THEN something happened (I don't know what) and he suddenly cut all ties to my church. He started a YOUTH group in a town about thirty miles away. This was all happening when I was 14 and he was 23. Years later, like yesterday, I was browsing through facebook, and I found some serious dirt.

He got married to a girl, from youth group, when she was 17, (she's 18 now, still younger than me.)

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing to say about age gaps, teen marriage, etc... but I still think taking a woman to be your wife who you were supposed to be teaching the bible to is wrong. I know love is all over, but seriously? I don't know, maybe it is because I knew him personally.

I wouldn't have posted here, but they are both facebook friends and I really don't want to piss them off.

Anyone else see the inappropriateness?
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+18492) 13 years ago
What I find to be inappropriate is the term, "Christian Dance Team."

Jesus didn't intend for you young Christians to be frolicking about to Satan's music. You should be sitting around a table, fully clothed from the neck down, studying the Bible.
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Posted by Bob Netherton II (+1911) 13 years ago
You're going to run into this kind of crap. Especially if you go around thinking every one who calls themselves christian is actually living up to a higher standard. For instance:

http://www.huffingtonpost...79938.html

And, yeah. It's the Huffington Post. That doesn't mean its not true.
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr (+15494) 13 years ago
*** Yawn ***
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Posted by Kelly (+2857) 13 years ago
Is "facebook friend" an oxymoron?
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr (+15494) 13 years ago
On second thought:

This was all happening when I was 14 and he was 23. Years later, like yesterday, I was browsing through facebook, and I found some serious dirt.

He got married to a girl, from youth group, when she was 17, (she's 18 now, still younger than me.)
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Anyone else see the inappropriateness?


All I see is an algebra problem with all of the ages.
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Posted by Maryann McDaniel (+255) 13 years ago
Looks like an Algebra problem to me also...So much more creative and real life than those darn "Train A leaves the station at 7 a.m. ..." problems.

By the way, very real life...I am the math coordinator for a school district in the Houston, TX area and my Algebra I teachers will enjoy this humorous exchange here at the end of the school year. They need it. I do too, but I work year round. They get to go home, take off, chill. May be at all 1960 reunion as district is closed July 4th week. Depends on whether the $ add up and align with the stars and moon that week.
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Posted by Steve Allison (+975) 13 years ago
When I was in high school,there was a young male teacher, one maybe two years out of college, who started dating a senior. They got married shortly after she graduated. It seemed very inappropriate at the time and I believe he transfered to another school to continue his teaching carrier. When I went to our 30 year class reunion, they were still married. The lesson I learned is it is hard to judge other people's hearts, what we may see as inappropriate now may turn out to be others love of their life finding each other. There are laws setting limits for engaging in sex that vary from state to state. Generally I think, not a lawyer, one has to be under 16 and the other more then 6 years older. If the man didn't violate these laws, one should not judge until time tests the relationship.
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Posted by Kacey (+3153) 13 years ago
First of all, a guy giving one of his youth group a ride home shouldn't have raised any red flags for Frank. The fact that he was being so concerned about it should have made you wonder then! You said something happened. Don't know what. Then he ended up married to a young lady. HMMMM.

You've learned an important lesson in life. Just because people are in a job where they are ministers of any kind doesnt mean they're decent people. Many have those positions only for control over others. They love the power.

I guess my question is why are you even Facebook friends with them? Waiting to see how the story ends?
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+18492) 13 years ago
An algebra problem! Excellent! I'm good at math.....

Step 1: State the problem.

This was all happening when I was 14 and he was 23. Years later, like yesterday, I was browsing through facebook, and I found some serious dirt.

He got married to a girl, from youth group, when she was 17, (she's 18 now, still younger than me.)


Step 2: Identify the variables.

yg = Year of the Youth Group

Smiley(yg) = 14
Frank (yg) = 23
Girlx(yg) = ? (>14)

Girlx(2010) = 18
Girlx(marriage) = 17
Marriage = 2009

Smiley(2010) = 18 + x
yg = 4 + x
Frank(2010) = 23 + (4 + x) = 27 + x

Step 3: State the Results

Smiley is older than 18.
Frank is older than 27.
Frank met Girlx in the Youth Group when she was less than 14 years old.

No other conclusions can be made from the existing data set.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6171) 13 years ago
When a teacher dates a student it is inappropriate. Period. It doesn't matter that they eventually marry and live happily ever after. A teacher-student relationship is not equal. If they develop feelings for each other it is up to the teacher to put the relationship aside. If, after the student graduates, they still want to have a relationship, good for them. Until then, no.
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+12616) 13 years ago
Anyone read about the senator from Indiana who was a big evangelical Christian, promoted abstinence only, blathered on about family values, and had to resign because his part-time employee mentioned they were lovers?

The lesson is, someone blathering about being "Christian" does NOT make them Christian. Someone espousing family values does not mean they actually believe in those values. The more someone claims to be morally superior, the more likely they are actually a scum sucking pervert.
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Posted by Steve Allison (+975) 13 years ago
I agree with Wendy that the student/teacher relationship was wrong. I mentioned that he lost his job over it. What physical happened between them I have no idea. The same applies to the first post. Did they just meet at the church group then years latter discover feeling for each other? Did he start a relationship when she was 14? Was he married and dumped his wife for her? Judging people without knowing the actual history is wrong. Saying someone involved in a religion meeting and marrying someone through their shared beliefs is wrong, is wrong. According to Christian ideals,what better foundation for a marriage could there be then a shared faith and devotion to God?
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