http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...family_guy

i do not agree with making fun of developmentally or physically disabled individuals.

however- the lady needs to consider the sources (family guy and creep-o letterman.) when fighting publicly. she may be a mommy but if her kiddo's do stupid $h!t (impregnated in high school) or she does (quit her job for 'fame') she needs to realize that in the public light she chose, this will all be called out.

What Palin needs to do is stop trotting out her kids for public scrutiny when it is most convenient to her and her pocketbook, a la cut-rate tabloid trash magazines such as "In Touch", and in the same breath denounce the media for focusing on her children.

She also needs to stop criticizing less-than-PC comments from anyone with a "D" behind their names, and glossing over those made by anyone with an "R".

Ugh. She was THE downfall of John McCain.

Edit to add: Please, please, please do not let her be the Republican Presidential Candidate for 2012. Pretty please with sugar on top?

[This message has been edited by Denise Selk (2/17/2010)]

...so making these wonderful, kindhearted people the butt of jokes is now a political issue?

[This message has been edited by souix (2/17/2010)]

Palin makes it a political issue by chastising those who are Democrats, but making excuses for those who are Republicans. If she would castigate every un-PC comment equally, then perhaps the subject would not be so political.

Regardless, she needs to stop the hypocrisy. She cannot continue to use her children as pawns in her political master plan, without opening them up for public scrutiny.

Are there in fact republicans who have recently made politically incorrect statements about her kids? Hard to equally castigate those who are keeping their mouths shut.

Rush Limbaugh used the term "retard" and Sarah was okey-dokey with that. Either the term is offensive or it isn't.

Richard, she publicly defended Rush Limbaugh's use of the word retard.

"They are kooks, so I agree with Rush Limbaugh," she said, when read a quote of Limbaugh calling liberal groups "retards." "Rush Limbaugh was using satire ... . I didn't hear Rush Limbaugh calling a group of people whom he did not agree with 'f-ing retards,' and we did know that Rahm Emanuel, as has been reported, did say that. There is a big difference there."

Huh?

Richard,
No she does not give out her criticism equally between the Republicans and Democrats.
http://www.bnd.com/news/s...17900.html
http://mediamatters.org/...002070015

Regardless it would be much better if we could use another term to describe those lacking in knowledge. http://www.r-word.org/

If Palin runs for President I'm going into stand-up comedy.

Might need to make it run-after comedy.


FH

Run, Sarah, Run!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

See, you rubes *COUGH* Ricardo *COUGH* are gonna be sorry you didn't take advantage when I was giving 20-1 odds. Betting window is closed. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

[This message has been edited by Bob L. (2/17/2010)]

I don't care if it is political or not, making fun of handicapped people is about one of the worst things you can do. I have been a special eduction aide for several years and this is one thing I don't condone. I have always taught my children to never make fun of people, especially handicapped people. I used to watch Family Guy once in awhile but won't again. I don't care whose child they were making fun of it was uncalled for.

She is a fine looking LADY!

Did any of you actually watch the episode? I did. There was a handicapped girl who said her mom was "the former governor of Alaska." I think it was a shot a Palin not at the handicapped. Further, I think the point of the episode ended up being that a mean girl is a mean girl no matter what as the girl was mean to Chris their whole date.

I think Sarah Palin has done a fine job of convincing middle America that she is the "average American" but sadly that is about all...She isn't really presidential material and those who think she is, need their heads examined...

WATCH THE EPISODE!!! The whole point of being offended by stuff is the ability to be offended without every actually SEEING what is offensive! It makes it so much easier to judge when your judgement isn't clouded by facts.

Sarah Palin is a nice, dim lady who has been seduced by the shiny and no good will come of it for her or anyone else.

Not to mention - righties are always the ones bitching about the PC crowd. Goddamn hypocrites.

Ya, what he said- retards I love those goofy bastards.

She is desperate to stay in the spotlight and I think she salivates at opportunities that present themselves that she can overreact to to get some air time.

yes, i actually watched the episode. i still don't agree with making fun of disabled people- but jerks are another story...(i'm sure there was more i was supposed to 'say' but i can't read the notes on my palm)

1. Yes, Sarah, in a political context needs thicker skin.

2. Is her bias in calling out democrats and giving republicans a "pass" ( no one has point out a case where she did that) any different than the multitude here at MC.com that wants to call into question her comments about being offended and yet give Rahm Emmanuel a pass for his use of the "R" word?

3. Is the "R" word always offensive or does it depend on the context? I say it depends on the context. If you were to call my brother Brian, who has downs syndrome, the "R" word that is offensive. If you are referring to an "unlearned" idea, say in the political arena, it may not be offensive because it is not a personified use of the word.

I cannot speak for anyone else, but, I, for one, have not given anyone a pass, which is my point exactly. Castigate equally, and there would be no issue. However, there is one very big difference between Sarah Palin and the posters on milescity.com. She has presidential aspirations, and, aside from Ship, I'm pretty sure the people on this site do not.

As I stated earlier, my biggest bone of contention with Palin is her using her kids when it is convenient for her political purposes and her wallet, and then crying foul when the media scrutinizes them. You cannot have it both ways. You cannot trot out your daughter and son for an In Touch interview, your daughter for an Oprah interview, etc. and then demand that the media leave them alone. Say what you want about the Clintons, but in this one regard, they were really the epitome of how to raise a child in the public eye. Demand privacy for your children, and then live your life by that creed.

Anyhoo, I guess I just plain don't understand the appeal of Sarah Palin. Would a Palin supporter who reads this site mind explaining it? I know there are some of you out there. I don't want a golly-gee, I'm a soccer mom, moose huntin' kind of gal running the greatest country in the world. It frightens me. I know that she has an "R" behind her name, but honestly, there are sooooooo many more qualified Republican choices out there. For me, and a whole lot of other Independents out there, a party nomination for Palin would certainly mean no "R" vote, either because of a vote for another party or abstaining from the process entirely.

Denise, I think "Denny" answered your question for about 50% of the Sarah supporters:

She is a fine looking LADY!

David, truth at last.


Along this same train of thought, I once had someone tell me, when I expressed doubt as to Palin's abilities during McCain/Palin's run for office, that she was smarter than anyone in that room. Now, when someone tells me that my president is more intelligent than anyone in the room, I want to feel and believe the truthfulness of those words. Instead, in all honesty, I couldn't help but feel offended.

MORE COWBELL!

howdy,
Palin is just as much presidential material as the one in office now.

frank hardy- that is perhaps the scariest thing i have ever seen!

the appeal of sarah palin is a hot-momma-outdoorsy-hanging-with-the-guys, from what i gathered. it has nothing to do with her intellect, her goals or what she's actually accomplished; aside from getting made-up that day.

It would be impossible to kick her out of bed for eating crackers!

Richard - When Rahm Emmanual(sp?) used the term "retarded", Palin wanted him fired. When Rush used the word, Palin gave him a pass. I thought you were an expert googler(like Rick). Palin's excuse for Rush was that he was using "satire".

Here's an article on Colbert's response:
http://www.nydailynews.co...etard.html

[This message has been edited by Bob Netherton II (2/18/2010)]

Rush was simply talking about Rahm Emmanuel's use of the word. Pretty hard to comment on a subject without telling people what you are talking about.

Emmanual used the word in the heat of the moment. Rush used the word 40 times to bash Emmanual. Was Rush using the word satirically? I suppose he was. But 40 times!? Palin originally called Rush's use of the word "cruel". But like all good rightwing-nut soldiers, she backed off, bowing to the big fat slimebag like every other right wing chickencrap. She wanted Rahm Emmanual fired. You don't see a double standard there, Richard? Of course not.

So I assume you want Rush fired?

Yes, perhaps there is a double standard, but it there are many situations like this where a double standard exists and on both sides of the isle. This situation is not unique. Bashing Sarah is apparently some form of liberal visual verbal paintball.

Palin is just as much presidential material as the one in office now.

I am the last one to defend the one in office now, however, on the subject of intellect, Palin falls far short of anyone on the political stage today IMO...America can do better if only we will...

Palin is just as much presidential material as the one in office now.

Probably more so - she, at least, was born in the United States. I mean really - "Certificate of Live Birth"? I think I could make one of those down at Kinko's...

http://www.newshoggers.co...NewsHog%29

My name is Andrea Fay Friedman. I was born with Down syndrome. I played the role of Ellen on the "Extra Large Medium" episode of Family Guy that was broadcast on Valentine's day. Although they gave me red hair on the show, I am really a blonde. I also wore a red wig for my role in " Smudge" but I was a blonde in "Life Goes On". I guess former Governor Palin does not have a sense of humor. I thought the line "I am the daughter of the former governor of Alaska" was very funny. I think the word is "sarcasm".

In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and votes.

If you were to call my brother Brian, who has downs syndrome, the "R" word that is offensive. If you are referring to an "unlearned" idea, say in the political arena, it may not be offensive because it is not a personified use of the word.

You don't call retarded people retards. It's bad taste. You call your friends retards when they are acting retarded.

-Michael Scott

Case closed

I think Sarah Palin has done a fine job of convincing middle America that she is the "average American" but sadly that is about all...She isn't really presidential material and those who think she is, need their heads examined...

Now there's Presidential material. Yeah baby.

Here's a nice quote...
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My name is Andrea Fay Friedman. I was born with Down syndrome. I played the role of Ellen on the "Extra Large Medium" episode of Family Guy that was broadcast on Valentine's day. Although they gave me red hair on the show, I am really a blonde. I also wore a red wig for my role in " Smudge" but I was a blonde in "Life Goes On". I guess former Governor Palin does not have a sense of humor. I thought the line "I am the daughter of the former governor of Alaska" was very funny. I think the word is "sarcasm".

In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and votes.

--------------


French Bread. Heh.

I would like to offer a few comments to this debate, I wish Pallin would have held Rush's feet a little closer to the fire, he meant it as an insult and thats wrong, but I think we're comparing apples to oranges. Limbaugh is a shock-jock entertainer, Emmanuel on the other hand is high up in our current government and should be held to a higher standard. I believe Obama would do well to send this foul mouthed jerk and his gystapo ways down the road. The American people pay his wages and we deserve better than this bedsore. Lastly, I would like to offer this, I have found the mentally challenged to be some of the most caring and compassionate people I have ever met and think we would all do well to be a little more retarded.

great comment GCC..I agree...I have always said that the mentally challenged means that God left out the mean and cruel gene...

Come on Ricky, you've got to have the accompanying article. Geesh.

http://www.theonion.com/c...rans_am_in

GCC:

Are you a Karl Rove fan?

Your friend,

Bob

Wow. Quite the thread, just now viewed it for the first time.

If Palin is the Republican nominee for 2012, then Obama is absolutely 100% guaranteed another four years. I don't know if that is good or bad, since there is basically no difference between the R's and the D's -- other than Palin, who is a certified idiot.

The R's really need to look at what they are doing to themselves, and find the proper solution. I'm starting to actually respect Mr. Reagan, which makes me feel weird and dirty.

I don't think Sarah will be the nominee in 2012. I don't believe that her purpose is anything more that to be a cheerleader and fire up the conservative base. A race between Sarah and Obama would be interesting and a lot closer than most people think. I don't think Obama will be the democrat nominee in 2012.

Personally I am hoping for John Barrasso - Scott Brown republican ticket. Doubt it happens.

It is really amusing to listen to people who think Obama is a moderate like GW Bush tell the republicans how they ought to run their party. The problem with republicans to-date is that they have listened to such voices. Hopefully, the era of moderates like McCain and GW Bush is over.

[This message has been edited by Richard Bonine, Jr (2/19/2010)]

I don't believe that her purpose is anything more that to be a cheerleader and fire up the conservative base.

top shelf!

Who cares what the website number is? This is definitely presidential material right here. Downright Clintonian.

If only there was a word to describe some peoples grasp of politics.

There is: 'Moran'

Actually, Bruce, I think the adjective form would be: "moranic"

I don't understand all the hoopla about Palin's looks. To me, she looks like a man in drag.

Since when did this become a "Biden needs thicker skin" thread? Honestly, I think the man has had this mastered for decades. He has been mocked since the beginning of time (and usually rightfully so). Debating Biden's ignoramus status does not have one bit to do with understanding Palin, and the Republican party if they are willing to support her as their nominee.

I hope Richard is right that she will not be the 2012 nominee, and I also don't doubt his statement that an Obama/Palin race would be much closer than many think. However, is this really what we want? A choice between these two? I know the Republican party can do better, so why even entertain the idea of Palin?

On a related topic, anytime the discussion of Mitt Romney comes up, the first thing, and usually only thing, I hear is an analysis of the Mormon religion. Is this really going to be his downfall (again)?

After Obama, I think not.

Romney's not really much of a Mormon by Mormon standards.

Something, quite obviously, anyone outside of Utah does not understand.

I sort of saw the Family Guy episode (DH was watching it and I was in the same room but I was on the Internet and didn't watch it closely) It was about a mean teenaged girl that Chris had a crush on, not a baby boy with Down's Syndrome, so you'd have to make a pretty big leap to say they were actually talking about Palin's son. Family Guy is SO over the top and politically incorrect that I have a hard time believing everyone doesn't just see it as a parody. To take it seriously would be pretty crazy! They have made fun of so many groups/nationalities/people-how could anyone make it into a political rant any more!


I have met someone that lives in Wasilla part of the year and he said that Sarah Palin isn't thought of as "a nice person" in Wasilla, where people actually know her. Apparently she is a pretty awful person and he, for one, was glad when she bowed out of local politics and went onto "bigger and better things", far away from there!

Toni, I know someone who lives in Wasilla who would say your remarks are correct.

My fun is mostly aimed at the people saying stuff like you'd have to have your 'head examined' if you thought Sarah Palin was Presidential material.

Listening to that coming from the people who just got done putting Cotton-head Joe just a heartbeat away seems like there might be a slight double standard.

Maybe Democrats really just want a Hennessy man.

But hey, at least he never called her the first Estrogen-American who is articulate and bright and clean. Then maybe Democrats would think more of her.

[This message has been edited by Rick Kuchynka (2/19/2010)]

Listening to that coming from the people who just got done putting Cotton-head Joe just a heartbeat away seems like there might be a slight double standard.

No.....more a case of damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

I can't imagine any scenario whatsoever where I could cast my vote for Sarah Palin.

A write-in candidate from a list of great minds such as Beevis, Cartman, Al Bundy, Rev. Jim Ignatowski, Woody Boyd and Homer Simpson would be more likely.

I don't understand all the hoopla about Palin's looks. To me, she looks like a man in drag.

She certainly doesn't give me a stiffie. On the other hand...Tina Fey dressed like Palin.....mrrrooowwww!!!

Must make you want to chuck her into a snow bank.

She certainly doesn't give me a stiffie. On the other hand...Tina Fey dressed like Palin.....mrrrooowwww!!!

Who knew lil' Gunnar was a card-carrying Democrat too.

My aunt lived in Wasilla and actually knows Sarah. From what I understand, she doesn't like her either. It's kind of strange, because I've noticed of most people that don't like her -- they tend to be female. I guess they know something that the guys don't.

I'm personally adverse because I consider her an idiot, and I don't see her ever achieving any office higher than the one she already quit in Alaska.

I was aware of Tina Fey on SNL, but she seemed rather uninteresting in the entire scheme of things, until the whole debacle occurred. Then I started watching 30 Rock -- and it's actually a pretty good show. I can see now why it has won so many awards, it is witty and smart, although it is below the top 10 on my TiVo list.

Larry; this may have something to do with why more women dislike her.

Maybe if she had been intelligent enough to use an apostrophe, we wouldn't dislike her so much. Some parallels to be drawn...

It's kind of strange, because I've noticed of most people that don't like her -- they tend to be female.

Jealousy is a strage phenomenon. :ducking:

Would this phenomenon also explain your dislike for Bill Clinton? He had quite the female fan base.

The effigy building does continue at full pace, Richard, even after she lost the election.

Meanwhile Plugs "Run for your lives, it's the Swine Flu!!!" Biden, the sitting VP, gets a pass because I guess his jacket and tie make him seem more up to it.

Biden is the male version of Palin, except he's a drunk and actually has managed to stay in office for quite a while. The whole VP thing, if you watched that John Adams show on HBO, points out it is basically the most useless job in the entire government. Luckily Obama doesn't appear as if he's going to drop over dead at any moment soon though.

Larry,

I'd agree with you for the most part, Larry. Except I keep wondering why Palin's name keeps coming up.

She's not going anywhere in 2012. Everyone knows it.

But I guess if they just keep beating that pinata long enough they never have to realize that everyone else thought their birthday party sucked and left.

I think the reason women are put off is that she has a grating voice, drama queen behavior, and tries to be one of the guy (moose hunting, quad running, truck driving, swaggering, you betcha). She also tries too hard when it comes to looking sexy with the hair, makeup, fashion, nails etc. Kind of a Jessica Simpson type, if you will--sugary sweet, but Daisy Mae at the same time. Most of all we don't want her representing the average woman's intelligence.

[This message has been edited by polar bear (2/20/2010)]

She's not going anywhere in 2012. Everyone knows it.

Really? I don't think a lot of people got that memo.

From your lips to God's ears.

I'd agree with you for the most part, Larry. Except I keep wondering why Palin's name keeps coming up.

I think her name continues to come up because she is one of the first to have a chance at representing women in the highest political office. Joe Biden is just another man in a long line of men, some intelligent, some not. There is nothing spectacular about him. However, as a woman, I do not want our first representation in the office to consist of mediocrity. She will affirm long-held beliefs about women and their abilities to make smart political and financial decisions.

Kind of like if you are Robert Kraft and have to pick which Patriots team from the history of your franchise to send in to the Super Bowl of all Super Bowls, the 1985 Patriots wouldn't even make the list. Sure, they made it to the Super Bowl in their day, but what an embarrassment. Just because you can make it to the field doesn't mean you should play.

and tries to be one of the guy (moose hunting, quad running, truck driving, swaggering, you betcha)

Hang on a second there Polar. So are you saying that she shouldn't be doing those things? It seems rather sexist to suggest that a woman shouldn't be doing something that a man does simply because she IS a woman.

I'd wager that there's a lot of women like Palin that enjoy those activities.

[This message has been edited by Kyle L. Varnell (2/20/2010)]

Some women around here like hunting Polar Bears.

No, I am saying she is doing it to project an image. She needs to fit in with the part of the population that is earthy, so to speak. I think women can do all those things, but they don't post for pictures all the time doing it while running for the highest office in the land. It is all part of her commercial image. When she went to Dillingham for the photo-op as a "fisherwoman" she spent only a few hours on one day on the boat. Real commercial fishermen work round the clock for 2-3 months. She just put on the suit like a kid playing cowboy.

i'd like to point out that palin didn't run for the highest office in the land, she ran for second place. thank you fellow concerned voters- she didn't get that. i was concerned that mccain would drop at any moment and we would be left with a politician that can't even lie properly about a possible reading list.

LOL, I still think she thought she was running for President.

This was pretty hilarious.

It's all part of her commercial image.

Kinda like this?

I'm sure this was contrived. Just not very well.

When the horse is dead, the proper thing to do is dismount. But I suppose the liberal savages here will continue to whale away until Gen. Terry and the cannons arrive.

I'm sure this was contrived. Just not very well.

You mean to tell me Rick that people don't go bowling in a suit & tie?

Perhaps they buy ice cream.



Or doughnuts.



[This message has been edited by Kyle L. Varnell (2/20/2010)]

Not just a photo-op, but 100 grand baby!

By the way, politicians don't like ice cream? Didn't know that.

Better than the reason the last Democrat VP candidate who lost ended up on the cover of all the tabloids.

Perhaps the sibling rivalry can continue down at Benasky's newsstand.

Agreed Ricky. He is what you see when you look up the word "douchebag".

I doubt you will find anyone defending Edwards. Total jerk!

Denise for President in 2012!!

agree with douchebag totally...

You complain about beating dead horses then post images of john Edwards and John Kerry? Fits well into the hypocrisy thing.

And the "We're Glad We Chose Life" title? This from someone who wants to remove the choice.

All I need to know about Palin is that Kyle and Rick got the hots for her.... Explains a lot

And the "We're Glad We Chose Life" title? This from someone who wants to remove the choice.

I like to think of it as correcting a 40-year old Supreme Court mistake.

[This message has been edited by Kyle L. Varnell (2/20/2010)]

To be fair, Silky ran again (for the top slot) in 2008, so he's just as game as Palin.

And if you guys would let the Palin thing die for once, I'm sure we'd be happy to give the (D) male bimbotry a well-deserved rest as well.

All of you are pretty damn funny. I actually agree with Polar Bear, Denise, Howdy, and crowd on this issue. Oh, and John Edwards actually is a douche bag. He was someone I originally supported, but you can't do what he did and expect to receive any respect in return. Ugh. Also Glenn Beck is fricking nuts. He makes Rush Limbaugh look like an angel.

Nice to see Sarah Palin is still everyone's favorite discussion topic around here

Particularly on Ricky's end....man, he has some wood for her.

The palinistas remind me of this "guy". Caution! Tears and bad language.

http://www.theinsider.com..._Her_Alone

I just enjoy how Rick keeps trying to turn this thread into a Joe Biden thread - as though anybody cares about Biden.

I just enjoy how Rick keeps trying to turn this thread into a Joe Biden thread - as though anybody cares about Biden.

Gives new meaning to the "Lonely Joe" thread.

http://milescity.com/foru...fpid=58078

Nice try, Kyle.

Why do we never see Trig in public wearing his hearing aides and his glasses?

How do you know that he actually has hearing aids and glasses?

But if he does maybe it is a form of protection so that he can't see or hear all of the insults being thrown his way.

to answer...

http://breepalin.blogspot...asses.html

So far I haven't seen insults being thrown at the Palin boy and even if they were, at his age, no matter what his disabilities, he isn't going to understand them. This claim that the child is insulted are ridiculous. The child has no clue, no two-year-old would. He just wants to chew on plastic keys and enjoy life. The problem is his mother and her using her children for political gain.

A child this age who does not wear glasses and hearing aides at all times while awake, is losing very important input to his development during a window of time that cannot be replaced. Just trying to figure out her motivation for doing this.

This claim that the child is insulted are ridiculous. The child has no clue, no two-year-old would.

An insult by any other name IS an insult Amorette, regardless of age.

I remember one time years ago I was in swim practice and called this one kid a retard. This one mother (the coach of course, just my luck) acted like a kicked bee hive and reamed me out for a couple minutes. As it was I had forgotten that her nephew was retarded.

I think it's safe to say that she took it as an insult.

You're probably correct in saying that Sarah Palin's child had no idea what "retarded" means.

His mother did and that is an insult.

Richard said the child wasn't wearing hearing aids or glasses so he couldn't hear insults. I pointed out it wouldn't matter TO THE CHILD. And it doesn't. But the kid isn't the issue. His mother using him for political fodder is. Some day, the kid will know that "retard" can be an insult but right now, he doesn't.

Yes, she does. She can be insulted by it but she can't be insulted by it one day and fine with it the next unless she is just using it as a political ploy.

[This message has been edited by hat_3275 (2/22/2010)]

I am a huge Family Guy fan and I was watching the episode on Valentines day, I found it funny and commented to my Valentine that it was going to cause problems. That was the intention of the writers of the show, to cause problems and to get a dig at Palin.

I say Palin and Roberts in 2012.............because paybacks are a bitch.

On a similar note can anybody explain American Dad's Roger to me?

"Family Guy" is about the stupidest show ever. But, I have to give you kudos for:

"Palin and Roberts in 2012" ... now that's one of the funniest damn things I've ever read.

I am still holding out for, Sarah Palin & Michelle Bachmann 2012. Much more political humor.

Just curious. Did anyone read "Sarah Palin"?

Just curious. Did anyone read "Sarah Palin"?

No. I quit two hundred pages in.

Kyle:

Was it because
(a) There were too many big words or
(b) Not enough pictures or cartoons?

Just curious. Did anyone read "Sarah Palin"?

i am going to borrow it from my buddy when he is done molesting the pictures and properly disinfects it. (his parents purchased it for him as a joke.) i'd like to read what her ghostwriters had to say for her.