Posted by wild land fire fighter (+144) 13 years ago
we had a possible fatel shooting tonight at 602 Palmer her in Miles City at around 2115hrs. The victum was taken to Holy Rosery by ambulance with a weak pulse. The susspect was arrested within 45 min in the EOC lot by HP 161 and MCPD 14-22. He is in the Custer County Jail at this time. Any one with names of the victum and/or shooter can post them here. Would also like to know if the victum survived or not.
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Posted by wild land fire fighter (+144) 13 years ago
Update:The victum I am hearing was the shooters wife. The guy shot her and was then seen sitting on his balcony/portch smoking a ciggerette.
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2309) 13 years ago
I hear it was pat and hazel rickett. apprently pat shot hazel... not confirmed, but that's my 2s cents
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Posted by wild land fire fighter (+144) 13 years ago
It has been confermed that the victum died at the hospital. Still not sure of the names. Thanks for the input. Hope to have some confirmed names tomarrow for everyone interested. Watch channel 10 news for more info too.
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Posted by Kender Beeler (+70) 13 years ago
seriously josh do you think that it's procreateing smart to post names when you don't even know if family has been notified??!!!!!!are you that cold and heartless??? you idiot. think before you act that was one lesson you never did learn huh????
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2309) 13 years ago
Wow Kender, jump the gun? That is why I said it is UNCONFIRMED. Chillax.

Edit: I was told this from friends, and apparently a cousin to the ricketts messaged my friend saying they were pissed their uncle shot their aunt....

[This message has been edited by Josh Rath (1/9/2010)]
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Posted by Kender Beeler (+70) 13 years ago
are you procreateing kidding me????? no. think josh for god sacks think. is that so hard to ask???? apparently so.
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2309) 13 years ago
I am just trying to provide information. That's what people want. Like I said, Chill.

Edit: Considering no matter what I seem to say on this forum is criticized, I shouldn't be surprised someone had to rag on me when I provide something that isn't trying to start a fight.

[This message has been edited by Josh Rath (1/9/2010)]
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Posted by Kender Beeler (+70) 13 years ago
sometimes what people want isn't what the people involved want... patiance is key with poop like that. common sence. DUH!!!!! what if a relative read this first???? how would you feel reading that your aunt,mother, grandmother or whoever died on here then by someone who as the answers to your questions???? what if you read a relitive of yours died on here just to figure out the @$$ who wrote it got his fact messed up??? HUH????? then what. think josh for gods sake think.
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Posted by Anna (+336) 13 years ago
its proven it is hazel and pat rickett
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2309) 13 years ago
See, there you go. You people really do just come out to rag on me, no matter what I do. Do something better with your time.
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Posted by Kender Beeler (+70) 13 years ago
ya i know. i'm just saying maybe wait till tomorrow to say that here??? some desentcey??????
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Posted by Anna (+336) 13 years ago
my little brother texted the youngest rickett and got it from the horses mouth
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Posted by Kender Beeler (+70) 13 years ago
says you josh???????????? ha that's a laugh. god people seriously. think of the family (let alone who's involved). that's all i'm trying to say. makes me sick to my stomach.
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2309) 13 years ago
Technically, it is saturday. Not friday. So, it is "tomorrow", and I have a fair amount of decency in me.
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Posted by Brian A. Reed (+6122) 13 years ago
Josh, if you don't want to be "ragged" on or treated like a kid, just stop.
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Posted by Kender Beeler (+70) 13 years ago
i already knew that. but thanks.
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2309) 13 years ago
Oh, and I do feel very bad for the family. I am not heartless like some think. I know 2 of the 3 kids, and they lived literally next door to us for years. I am sad to hear that this has happened. But why should be just sit alone knowing, when others want to know. I like to share my information, unless secret.
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Posted by Kender Beeler (+70) 13 years ago
thank you brian. and josh if you had any decentcy at all you wouldn't act the way you do. once again common sence.
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Posted by Kender Beeler (+70) 13 years ago
your such an idiot josh. seriously. it pains me, i feel truly sorry FOR you.
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2309) 13 years ago
Whatever. I am who I am. You hate me, I know this. Brian also hates me, because of some unknown reason. And yes, I know I am such a bad person for reporting the news. So sue me.
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Posted by Brian A. Reed (+6122) 13 years ago
Josh - quit digging. Just stop.
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Posted by Brian A. Reed (+6122) 13 years ago
Josh - I don't hate you. I think you're bright. But I also think you're terribly immature. If I hated you, I'd be more than happy to let you continue to make an ass out of yourself. Just stop.
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2309) 13 years ago
Edit: Whatever. I'm done talking to you two.

[This message has been edited by Josh Rath (1/9/2010)]
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Posted by Brian A. Reed (+6122) 13 years ago
:shakes head at Josh, a la Lee Trevino in Happy Gilmore:
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Posted by wild land fire fighter (+144) 13 years ago
every one just calm down. I asked for info and he gave what he had. Don't blame it on Josh. And I see where Kender is coming from too. As to Ann saying that it is confirmed to be the people that Josh said it is than we will know from news sorces. Like I said watch the ch 10 news for more info and read the local paper.
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Posted by Kari (+103) 13 years ago
I just recieved a text about this. It's sad. Especially knowing the family involved. My Sympathies to the family and everyone involved. She was confirmed dead at the hospital. RIP. I really hate tragedies like this in small towns. I just hope the kids get through it.

[This message has been edited by Kari (1/9/2010)]
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Posted by life in full color (+53) 13 years ago
People PLEASE remember this is a family from our community and the kids go to school with our kids. Be kind and understanding PLEASE
Lets show compasion. We have not walked in their shoes, we are not to judge. Lets use the forum to help and support not criticize and condemn.
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr (+15419) 13 years ago
Wow! Just wow! If only we had the 911 tape.
http://milescity.com/foru...903#123134

Pretty foolish to even ask for names in a situation like this, let alone give them. How about a little decorum?

My prayers, sympathy, and condolences are with the victim's family.
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Posted by Emilie Boyles (+249) 13 years ago
Official information:

On January 8th, Friday night at approximately 8:25pm the Miles City Police Department was dispatched to 602 Palmer Street in Miles City for reports of shots fired. Upon further investigation officers located Hazel Rickett at the scene injured with apparent gunshot wounds. She was transported to an area hospital and later pronounced dead. The suspect, Richard Rickett, Hazel's husband, was later apprehended and charges are pending.

Information received from Acting Miles City Chief of Police Doug Columbik.


If you hear of such events, please call the newshotline 24/7 at 406-939-3378 or email [email protected] Thanks!


Montana East Regional News
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr (+15419) 13 years ago
If you hear of such events, please call the newshotline 24/7 at 406-939-3378 or email newsdeskkxgn.com Thanks!


What...you don't own a scanner?
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Posted by Barb H (+28) 13 years ago
yes it was Hazel and here is another time when a woman was trying to get a restraining order and could not because the police said that her husband had done nothing to endanger her life now she is dead, just like a friend of mine Marie Sparks years ago, what does that say?
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2309) 13 years ago
Just shows how great Miles Cities Finest are. The best in the US. BAHAHAHAHA
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Posted by life in full color (+53) 13 years ago
WOW Josh....You just do not know when to stop....
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Posted by howdy (+4947) 13 years ago
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Posted by eeyoor (+52) 13 years ago
I have to agree it is very direspectful to post an address and/or names of victims or etc., before you know if the family even knows first that is why they don't give names and exact addresses out. People need to wait until they are posted in the paper or the family post something.
Just my thoughts.
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2309) 13 years ago
I'm glad the Billings Gazette now has it. Monday the star will. On a side note, did anyone hear about something happening at Stabler Trucking? Someone apparently got crushed also last night?
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Posted by Beth R. Riggs (+299) 13 years ago
I'm really sad by this shooting and do believe that the news should not have included an address and names until the family could have been notified. I think we need to support the surviving family with love. Prayers please.
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Posted by Tori (+200) 13 years ago
Are Josh and Shipley related?

[This message has been edited by Tori (1/9/2010)]
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2309) 13 years ago
I do feel remorse for what I had posted last night, because yes, it would have been more appropriate for me to hold off. I appologize. But, apparently people are big people and call my voicemail with an unknown number, and leave me messages like this...

http://www.joshrath.com/voicemail.mp3

^That was just left on my voicemail.... 10 Minutes ago? Something like that.

[This message has been edited by Josh Rath (1/9/2010)]
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Posted by Diane Emeney (+496) 13 years ago
I wonder how some of you would feel if this were your family?

My heart goes out to the kids and all those involved with this. I hope and pray that you will get through this and to please ignore those who just like talking.

This isn't just something to discuss!! This is a tragedy that happened to a family here in town and should be treated with respect and consideration for the families involved. This should be a place for posting sympathies and nothing more.
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Posted by Bridgit Morrison (+98) 13 years ago
the voicemail link didnt work for me.. hm.. sad lol
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2309) 13 years ago
Works for me. You may need quicktime installed. If not, here's a transcript...

"You are a stupid Fu*k*r."
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Posted by K.Duffy (+1824) 13 years ago
It is human nature to be curious ~ especially when something this shocking happens. The family and close friends are going to have to endure the pain and suffering, whether or not the incident is discussed on mc.com. I don't think talking about it is particularly disrespectful, unless there's unfounded speculation. Yes, you could question the discretion in naming names, but not putting them out there isn't going to make it any easier on those left behind. I think by airing feelings on violence and the problems that lead up to them, may help prevent future instances, and make more people aware to the potential storm that may be brewing inside someone you know.
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Posted by B. Hunter (+108) 13 years ago
Am I wrong in assuming that there are or should be privacy laws in place to protect the victim, victim's family, and the possible perp?

In my line of work, I'd NEVER be allowed to just post this type of information to a public forum.

It would be considered protected information until a public information officer was notified to contact the media.

Plus... common courtesy to those affected. Come on people.
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2309) 13 years ago
B. Hunter, if the newspaper has released it, it is fine.
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Posted by life in full color (+53) 13 years ago
Common sense is not very Common
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Posted by Dave Golterman (+246) 13 years ago
Josh, I believe B. Hunter was referring to the earlier posts, before KXGN-TV & the Gazette had the information. You and Wildlands Firefighter were awfully quick to post "information".

BTW, it is Federal offense to disclose publicly what is overheard on the scanner without the permission of those you have overheard.
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2309) 13 years ago
I didn't hear anything on the scanner, because I do not own one.. Well, I don't anymore. My scanner died about 2 years ago.

[This message has been edited by Josh Rath (1/9/2010)]
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Posted by LaRae Matzen (+25) 13 years ago
Orders of Protection are not obtained through the police. They are filled out by the petitioner and signed by a Judge. They are enforced by law enforcement.
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Posted by Tom Masa (+2180) 13 years ago
Josh don't sweat it. Let it be.
Kender, learn how to spell or Wendy will be after you.
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Posted by tholmes (+416) 13 years ago
I really feel sorry for the children at this time. Instead of giving the horrid details lets all take a minute to mourn the loss of a wonderful woman and the horrific loss the children are feeling at this time.
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Posted by Christen LeBlanc Ramsey (+275) 13 years ago
wow, just reading the responses makes me a bit sad- this murder/shooting isn't about any of you. it is so very unfortunate for a person to have their life ended in a domestic dispute at the hand of someone who once proclaimed to love them. no human relationship is perfect, however no one deserves to meet an ending in this fashion. i am thinking positive thoughts for the family members left in this wake; good luck and grace as you all move forward. may her memory be for a blessing.
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Posted by Smiley (+851) 13 years ago
Is this the Hazel who worked at Walmart? I know there is a hazel there who would always greet us at the door and always was sweet to my daughter.
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Posted by Barb H (+28) 13 years ago
I know how orders of protection are given but she tried to get one and she was told no because he had not threatened her life,but then again so did Marie Sparks and now they are both dead..And I realize it is only a piece of paper but it may be the difference between being alive and being dead..Also my heart goes out to her children to know they have to live with her death and also to know that their father was the one who took her from them..
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Posted by Just Me (+741) 13 years ago
FYI - Wildland Firefighter is NOT a part of Miles City Fire Department nor Rural. He shouldn't be referring to himself as such as he has a record and quite honestly I have been appalled at some of his postings. Please don't let what he posts reflect on any of the actual professional firefighters in this city or county.

You're right. . . he SHOULD NOT be using this site to gather information nor spread it. If he was truly in the local Firefighting System here . . . he would have known all the information he is trying to glean here.

To Wildland Firefighter . . . GET A LIFE! Go back down SOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUTH where you came from.

Like somebody else said . . . this is not about you. Think about the family.
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Posted by Steven Williams-Dey (+253) 13 years ago
Come on guys, somebody just was murdered! Why are we all fighting and arguing with each other? This isn't our time to feel bad for ourselves. It's time to help the family that this happened to, to get through this tough time.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6168) 13 years ago
My sympathies to the Rickett and Zuelke families. Hazel was a close friend of mine in high school although we've not kept in touch since. I just can't believe it.
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Posted by Steven Williams-Dey (+253) 13 years ago
do u know who ezara's aunt is?
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Posted by eeyoor (+52) 13 years ago
first off my prayers and thoughts out to the family and second to call someones phone and do that was very immature and unnecessary that person needs to be charged with harrasment or something. we all make mistakes and that is why I do not post my number anywhere. The caller needs to apoligize and you can trace that call all you need is the exact time and than call the phone comp. they will trace it. Sorry some people are stupid like that to call you that was very childish.

[This message has been edited by eeyoor (1/9/2010)]
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2309) 13 years ago
eeyoor, if you are referring to the voicemail on my cell phone, i know the exact time, within 10 seconds. But, I use Google Voice, a free visual voicemail service from Google. So it is not able to be traced. Plus, the number which he/she/it called is readily available on MilesCityFeed.com's Homepage. 406-204-4407. My Direct-To-Voicemail number.
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Posted by Dave Roberts (+1509) 13 years ago
My sympathies to the Rickett and Zuelke families.


Wow am I dense sometimes. Can't be that many "Hazel"s in Miles, but it took Wendy's post for it to dawn on me.

One of my earliest childhood memories is Ray and Grace's piranha.
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Posted by uno21 (+69) 13 years ago
I'm so sorry to hear of this terrible tragedy. I think instead of fighting and name calling we need to focus on more important things. I'm praying for their families as this has to be a horrible time for them. Correct me if I'm wrong, she had been trying to get a restraining order? I would like to know when we are going to wake up and help women who feel they are in danger? Why do we have to wait until we have a bruise, broken bones or God forbid killed? If a women feels she is in danger then we really need to listen! Even if nothing happens at least no one was hurt. It just makes me so sick to see some women in this town who have cried out for help and they can't get it because they haven't been "hurt yet". We need to get the laws changed to protect the victim instead of the criminal!
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Posted by T Brown (+481) 13 years ago
Hazel Rickett was my friend and my co-worker at Wal-Mart. She was not the people greeter, she worked in the back of the store.

Over the past three years I'd grown to know her very well. She was one of the nicest people I've ever had the pleasure of meeting. She had such a wonderful personality , an amazing sense of humor and beautiful smile. Her kids are three of the most respectful, well behaved, smart, nice and happy kids i've seen in a long time.

As a community, we need to pull together and show this family the love and respect they deserve. They are going to be going through some tough times and are going to need all the support and love everyone of us can muster up. My thoughts and prayers are with the Rickett and Zuelke families at this very sad time. God Bless you all.
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Posted by julieinmc (+521) 13 years ago
Well said, Terri. My feelings exactly.
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Posted by angelsfy (+417) 13 years ago
does anybody have a picture of hazel or did she have paper route with the milescity star?
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Posted by wild land fire fighter (+144) 13 years ago
To just me:If you know who I am than you will know I am a firefighter. And you need to leave me alone.

I was the one that started this posting here. If it is because of me that some wrong or bad info got out I am deeply sorry for that. I too have been wondering if it was the Hazel from wal-mart that is/was always so nice to ALL. I truely hope that it is/was not her. That would be a BIG loss to this community and her family. My wife and I pry for her family and friends, that they will get the help they need from GOD and this community. If there is any thing that I my do for this family all that they need to do is get an email to me through this posting.

Note: to just me if you have a problem with me you need to come to me and not put BS on this posting.
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Posted by bh (+263) 13 years ago
that was hazel b this was hazel r
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Posted by bh (+263) 13 years ago
sorry i havent had much sleep,the 1sthazel is the people greeter
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Posted by Brian A. Reed (+6122) 13 years ago
Anonymous Voice Mail Guy wrote:
"You are a stupid Fu*k*r."

QFT.
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Posted by Bart Freese (+930) 13 years ago
I read today's story on the Billings Gazette web page.

Very sad indeed. It is hard to understand these things. She was a wonderful person and my thoughts and prayers are also with her and family.
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Posted by howdy (+4947) 13 years ago
According to her brother (in the Gazette article) she had filed for divorce, and statistically that is one of the most dangerous times for domestic violence victims (when the abused tries to leave the situation)...this nation needs more tools to help out domestic violence victims IMO...
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Posted by Steven Williams-Dey (+253) 13 years ago
The comments that Anna made in the top of the post was not her. It was me and i was at her house on her account and she didn't know i wrote anything on her with her account. Thanks, Steven
P.S. Im her brother

[This message has been edited by Steven Williams-Dey (1/10/2010)]
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Posted by Toni Campbell Tivy (+147) 13 years ago
Hazel was a classmate of mine back in the 70's and early 80's. She was fun and sweet and very quiet so I don't think people always realized what a clever and outstanding person she was. This deeply saddens me (and all of the people who knew her I am sure). I pray for strength and peace in the coming days for her friends and family...especially their children. Now they have pretty much lost both parents at the same time. I cannot fathom how someone could do this....
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Posted by bh (+263) 13 years ago
this mcdc is read by a lot of people including the younger should the foul language happen or even b allowed?
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Posted by Laura Sevier (+1825) 13 years ago
Does anyone know the name of the person, who would not give Mrs. Rickett a restraining order.
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Posted by howdy (+4947) 13 years ago
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Posted by Smiley (+851) 13 years ago
Anyone can break through a piece of paper, but as for the question about who wouldn't give a restraining order. Well, I have a restraining order in place. To get one USUALLY you have to go through CNADA, they are the ONLY PEOPLE IN TOWN with the paperwork. Then you have to have them APPROVE IT, then, I believe they advocate for you at city court.

That's NOT how I obtained mine, because the kind lady at CNADA told me I didn't have enough "evidence." Two police reports and threatening phone calls were enough for Judge Dukart thank god. SO that is who I would guess.
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Posted by mercy me (+130) 13 years ago
Laura the only person who can issue an order of protection (restraining order) is a judge. I myself have never heard of one being denied. Who knows if she applied for one or only thought/talked about it. Law enforcement can only do so much. They do try. You know as well as I that an order of protection is only as good as the paper it's written on. Doesn't stop a bullet. If someone is gonna getcha they are gonna getcha order of protection or not. There is no one that knows what was truly going through these peoples hearts or minds when this happened. Just so sad. God be with them all.
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Posted by mercy me (+130) 13 years ago
I beg to differ with you Smiley. You need only see a judge. CNADA neither issues nor denies. They are only there to help and offer guidance.
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Posted by howdy (+4947) 13 years ago
what is CNADA
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Posted by mercy me (+130) 13 years ago
It's like Custer County Network Against Domestic Violence. Very dedicated and well needed group.
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Posted by pooh (+26) 13 years ago
Not that the police in this town would do anything anyway.I called when my husband hit me & because by the time the police did arrive & the 45 minutes they spoke with him, I didn't have a mark anymore so I was arrested for filing a false police report. I wouldn't trust law in this town to protect my goldfish. I'm sure they brushed Hazel off just like every other battered/abused woman in this town. MCPD is a joke.
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Posted by howdy (+4947) 13 years ago
thats terribly sad to hear...Hope someone can push for changes if true..
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Posted by mercy me (+130) 13 years ago
Pooh there are two sides to every story. I don't know, for some reason I trust them. What else have you got? Ok, besides a 38.
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Posted by howdy (+4947) 13 years ago
A very cowardly man...
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Posted by Just Me (+741) 13 years ago
Pooh - I am very sorry to hear how your situation was handled. I think some in authority think "women deserve it" to a certain extent.

However, I can say . . . in my case the MCPD was a great support along with CNDA. In my experience it was when it got to the City Attorney that everything was discounted and dismissed. I don't think that City Attorney is there anymore.
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Posted by MeganLynn (+133) 13 years ago
Ok seriously people. Leave. Josh. Alone. I realize that you're all upset cause he posted something that hadn't even been public yet. Maybe he was in the wrong. But the topic poster WANTED TO KNOW so Josh told him. What's done is done. Do you really think Hazel would've wanted you all to cuss at him and yell at him? Maybe she wanted people to know. I knew Hazel very well and she was a very respectable woman. She would NOT want people fighting over the news of her death! Why don't you all be respectful and leave this topic alone. What you're doing and saying to Josh can be filed as harassment charges. I would've done it already if I were him. I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just trying to stop this riduculous nonsense.
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Posted by Smiley (+851) 13 years ago
I think this MeganLynn joined just to defend Josh. Wow, I wish I had them kind of friends.
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Posted by Toni Campbell Tivy (+147) 13 years ago
Well obviously Josh is a great guy and that is why he has great friends. He seems like a fine, intelligent person and very grown up for his age. I don't understand why older people don't cut him some slack on some things here. I personally don't know him so that is just my 2 cents. I don't understand why people would be snide about how he has so many friends like it's a bad thing.

Honestly, I heard about the shooting and all of the details over on Facebook by a friend of the victim's long before Josh posted anything. My Aunt heard it on the scanner when it happened (she did not post anything). She also heard that Mr. Rickett's son persuaded him to turn himself in, and it sounds like the rest of the family found out about it right away.I am sorry if this was a terrible shock to someone in the family that wasn't in the loop, but news travels fast (I live over 1300 miles away) and that is just the way things are these days.

Also, as far as Milescity.com, it is a pet peeve when people try to be all coy with the "I know something but you don't" type of postings about tragic events. It is especially annoying when they keep making leading statements without giving any names, leaving everyone reading the posts to wonder if maybe something happened to one of THEIR family members.
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Posted by Josh Rath (+2309) 13 years ago
I am fortunate to have great friends such as Megan Lynn. They all look out for me, as how i look out for them.
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