This is definitely a pay-per-view thread. Larry could be pulling in the bucks if he wanted to charge admission.

If he charged admission I'd go watch wrestling on TV. About the same.

I think I would have to go with the poking a monkey idea.(Maybe replace the monkey with a bear..)

minus the pretty tights and big muscles.....

This is response to an earlier post about the mayor maybe not having enough money to cover his license/registration and insurance costs. I'm also broke beyond broke,living paycheck to paycheck, but I do keep up my license/registration and insurance costs. I can't afford a ticket or lawsuit if there ever were an accident. I guess it's all part of being a grown-up.

Dearest Webmaster: PLEASE, put the gag back on!

Rob,

You should edit your number out of there. Unless you want random people all over the country to call you.

Rob
You referenced Montana code 45-7-701.So i did some quick research on that code. Funny thing is in my limited skills on a computer i was not able to find a 45-7-701 but i did find allot of 45,s. So with your help and maybe some help from some that are more astute to searching.Here's what i did.
1. Googled Montana state code annotated 2009.
2.Went to search.Typed in 45
3.Scrolled down to Data.opl.mt.gov-bills/mca/45/7.
I thought you might have made a typo so i read any of the 45,s that seem pertinent to this issue.I couldn't find any on this issue but did find many that pertain to you.It seams that you have two sets of standards considering your stand on Dukart.So maybe you might want to research Montana cannons on judicial ethics too #4.

4. Avoidance of Impropriety.
A judge's official conduct should be free from impropriety and the appearance of impropriety; he should avoid infractions of law; and his personal behavior, not only upon the Bench and in the performance of judicial duties, but also in his everyday life, should be beyond reproach.

I found it 45-7-401.

Richard! You never had a Montana drivers license?

I had a MT license with all the endorsements necessary to drive a tractor-trailer and haul corrosive liquids. I didn't have my license with me when I was pulled over for expired plates and no insurance. It wasn't that I didn't want to buy insurance... I need to save up two or three pay checks to purchase it.

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Let me ask again:

Did the mayor have a MT license that was expired or did he have an out of state license that was expired?

Brian A. Reed: With the webmaster's permission, I perhaps would then advise you that you do need serious professional help.
FACTS are : 1. I never ever laid eyes on the IRS agent who blabbed to the feds I had threatened her. If you feel ashamed to confront me on this.........at least go to the Federal Record in the Battin Courthouse and check it out. You can also email Paula Saye-Dooper at "saye law" from the internet. She and her senior law partner,Rob Stephens, Jr., are in very very very good standing before the Federal Court in Billings. The facts in the Record of the case are that I never intended to threaten anyone, NEVER DID THREATEN ANYONE, and, was driven nearly mad by any decent standards due to the extreme lawlessness and oppression from the IRS. Read it. Check it out. Then perhaps be quiet.

Also, you may want to reevaluate this. My close friends in Miles City who went through my 315 days in jail with me....every step of the way......also are pleased that I ****twice***** all by my little dumbself.......exercised in the law (exercised in the law is a better terminology that "used the law") the PROPER LEGAL METHOD to *twice* have the IRS agent who illegally stole my entire 4Bs checks......June of 2005 and September of 2006.........return them to me............obviously the extreme admission of GUILT on her part.......and a STIFLING FOUNDATION to the total athiest communist lawbreaking by the IRS........not a U.S. federal agency.

Anyone in the USA.....any single private citizen........without the aid or assitance from an attorney nor a CPA.........who has ever made the IRS return stolen money to them.........and especially TWICE....the same amout........from the very same illegal IRS agent..........is quite decently not common in more than one in 700 or 800,000 cases the IRS has every year.

GOOGLE Ronnie Doitch of Taxmasters on the net.......email them...ask them if they have ever if 15 or 20 or 25 years EVER EVER EVER EVER heard of anyone forcing the IRS to replay stolen funds............it never happens. Period.

I did it ***** TWICE ***** because I was forced to.

Would I be a good mayor of Miles City for a measly $20,000 a year ?
You betcha. Because in the first place I don't need the taxpayer's cash........and in the second place I hold a great deal of respect for Judge Dukart,Judge Day, Mark Ahner, Jerry Partridge, my friend Meidinger and........surely Governor Brian Schweitzer........all of these decent good people little pauper joey has lied to repeatedly.

You are always wanting to be so smart.......place a petition for me to be appointed the interim mayor after joey departs.........see what results you may gain. Miles City good people who know me and have known my very wonderful parents before me might just SCARE you to death !!!!!!!

And, besides, as a very very very *nice* special benefit of my perhaps becoming mayor...........I do have actually well over TEN THOUSAND HOURS.........10,000.......of diligent internet study of the law........the U.S.Constitution......MCA 2009....and ofcourse the Holy Bible.

So, now, what say you about this, Mr. Reed?

Dave Roberts: Sir, you are exactly correct. Pardon my faux pas.
Mere oversight no malice intended. "Ship"

Kyle : Please go visit Butch Grenz. He is in the basement of the 600 every morning or early afternoon. He and I have been settling world issues there for 25 years or more. Do this. This will rilly rilly rilly rilly enhance your total viewpoint about pauper joey and the City Council and the whole Big Picture.
Ever think about what it was to the Etchemendy family when joey made his big deal foray to Hardin to ask that they trek to Miles City and spend their dough? Hmmmmm? After ofcourse one of their own kidnapped and brutally murdered one of our own? Do you ever see how truly RIDICULOUS it is to have an "Indian" blanket for all tense and purposes ever so proudly displayed on the City Hall wall to amplify pauper joey's linking with the Hardin Chamber of Commerce etcetera........OUT OF COMPLETE IGNORANCE of the brutal and HEINOUS kidnapping and murder of Marty Etchemendy?
I do know a great deal about all of this.
A. I was kidnapped at gunpoint out the back door of Earl Kelly's Range Rider's Bar March 9,1985.
B. I was at the Golden West (now the Golden Spur) the night some drunken mouthy Indian gave a ration of s*** to John Morford and they went outside (not at all very well to the liking of the Indian).
C. I know why the Hardin Indians came back to the Golden West....they were seeking John Morford.....whose name they didn't know.........(John Morford...initials JM.....Marty Etchemendy...initials JME...John Martin Etchemendy).
D. For the rest of the story please either contact Paul Harvey or the Public Records in the James F. Battin Courthouse in Billings.............OK?

Get my drift?

Ship

PS. Plus, now that pauper joey dint get his little waise.....ah shucksydoodle..............too bad........there is sickness and poverty all over the world.

I know. People need money. I am a very bad wabbit for evening mentioning this in such an awful depression time as this.
Wob the bad Wabbit.......hmmmmm....maybe I ought to VOLUNTEER to serve as mayor at the people's gain by LEGALLY contracting to serve without remuneration........wowowowow.......would I still be then a very bad wabbit?

Brian Reed: Once again. In the VERY VERY VERY first instance......IRS agents are merely A G E N T S....precisely what the word implies. They have BY LAW no more legal authority or purpose than a County Extension AGENT or a Licensed Insurance AGENT or a USED CAR SALESMAN who acts and buys and sells cars for a dealer as an agent being GOVERNED by the full force and effect of AGENCY LAW. OK? Or is this as usual way way way over your head? Sorry.

Google has only..........TENS of THOUSANDS of websites that BLARE OUT this truth..........IRS agents are not *federal officers* at all!!!!!!!! Officers in the federal system OR the state system all MUST swear an Oath of Office.....to uphold and defend the U.S.Constitution !!!!!!!!!!!

IRS agents never have to do this...........this is why they get away with all their heinous and specious and terrible crimes the way they do. Period.

pauper joey by the way also had to SWEAR an Oath of Office......to act ACCORDING to the laws of Montana...........which SPECIFY owners and operators of motor vehicles being used upon the public right-of-way MUST be operated BY A LICENSED driver !!!!!!!

To do otherwise is a PREMEDITATED BREAKING OF THE LAW.

Uno 21: Please rest easy. We are all going to be WORSE than broke when the feds get done with this.........if a blood revolution does not engage and stop it all.
By the way...............there are over 26 million cars and pickups and trucks in California.........the biggest state in the Union already BANKRUPT due to lawless UNACCOUNTABILITY........39 per cent..........2 of ever 5.........DO NOT HAVE *mandatory* (meaning made LAW against the will of the people) liabilty insurance BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY ARE SUFFERING AND CANNOT AFFORD THE....s*** !!!!!!!

Alaska.....17 years ago.......put this mandatory (UNconstitutional) insurance crap to a statewide referendum and DEFEATED it ENTIRELY.
In Alaska you can LIVE FREE and DRIVE FREE....because Big Brother........cannot FORCE you to buy his insurance salesman cousin's insurance !!!!!!!!!

Potatohead or Spaghettihead or whomever: Pleases me to see your insipid remark. Like little pauper joey..........you well express your lack of common sense and decency. Thank you so much. "Ship"

poison : I doubt to beat heck that an egomaniac such as yourself ever could reach down deep enough into your guts to ever evince a real American name like 99.8769 % of all real Americans use? Just a thought. Ship

Yano Rob, instead of Double, Triple, Quadruple and farther posting, why not Just make each section separate in one big post? Saves time.

[This message has been edited by Josh Rath (12/6/2009)]

poison: You did not do so bad. You do remind me of the latent need of people like you who M U S T remain and thrive in anonymity. Precisely like pauper joey......trying so stupidly to FORCE City Judge Ralph Dukart and District Judge Day to come to actually.........BELIEVE.........he had received....."anonymous" phonecalls about me..........all of which is EASILY EASILY EASILY provable and easily shunned and DISMISSED an a court of law.......as it exhibits NO SENSE......and no purpose........in the law.......plus........openly VIOLATES the Rules of Evidence as specified in MCA 2009 and the Montana Constitution.
Thanx again, Goofy. "Ship"

Jeremy : Thank you,Sir, for your good thinking in such perilous times as these. Assuredly there are thousands and thousands of instances where Identity Theft and corruption lurks everywhere in our nation. Thank you for your well thought tip.

(Not to pass up the chance to restate.....pauper joey ORDERED both warrantless searches of me and Bruce Ingraham.......violating Montana and U.S. Constitutional law).

pauper joey....."Wob, you is a bad wabbit"
Bad Wabbit (me)......."I sorry,joey......I try will will will hard not to expose your abject toopidity anymore,ok?"

What a nuckin' fut.

Richard, the article in the 12/4/09 Billings Gazette states;

"State attorney general's office spokesman Kevin O'Brien said Friday that no record that Whalen had ever been a licensed driver in Montana could be found.

Whalen, who has been mayor since May of 2006, declined to comment Friday on the status of his driver's license."

Which is what made me curious as to how he could have been in Montana for the last 7 years and not needed a valid license; to write a check, get on a plane, drive a vehicle, or one of the other mulitude of things a license comes in handy for. Nothing accusatory just pure curiosity. And most likely none of my business.

Caylor: Like me or hate me..........does not matter. I have read,reread,studied and PRINTED the Canons of Judicial Ethics of both Montana and Wyoming.....and have dutifully compared both of them and each of them to other states. This exploration was all mine to do....and ENJOY.

Suggest you GOOGLE to Laramie Wyoming Municipal Court......BECAUSE YOU CAN as your constitutional right to do so.......ask them,demand of them the TRUTH...........that....did or did not corrupt municipal court judge....R.D.Copenhaver.....actually NOT have his 2007 (July 1st) contract reapproved by the City Council owing to the FACTS of the LAW that Rob Shipley demanded he be removed from the bench for his many many many violations of the Judicial Ethics of the State of Wyoming.

You see,Sir, copenhaver was an attorney (part time).....at the very SAME TIME he was municipal court judge....................does this SMACK to you of being IMPROPER.....and perhaps.....grossly ILLEGAL???????

Tim Hale, Laramie,Wyoming....call info ,get Tim's tele#....call him.....he will tell you....EXPLICITELY how Rob Shipley caused a STIR and COMMOTION ever so grand that Laramie had to remove CORRUPT JUDGE copenhaver................see what I like about KNOWING everything about judicial ethics in the law?

Caylor: I too know this only too well. But,judge Dukart admits freely to friends he has a drinking and weight problem. He actually STRUGGLES with this on a daily basis..........but he does not ever...........P R E M E D I T A T E to break the laws !!!!!! He never has been living in Montana for EIGHT years........never having legally obtained a Driver License as he ABSOLUTELY LEGALLY MUST DO TO DRIVE A CAR.Period.

He drove the first time after he'd been drinking because the other fellow did NOT HAVE A LICENSE !!!!!!!! OK? He made a PERSONAL DEMAND DECISION...........he thought it BETTER that he drive other than his *friend* (word having NO meaning whatsoever in the limited mental capacity and language of pauper joey).

Duh? Hello? Dukart took the fall for his erred decision,Period. He hired a very wonderful Miles City attorney (T.Hanson). He admits freely he made a mistake and AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL he surely surely should not have made such a mistake !!!!!!!!! But he did it......accidentally......sans PREMEDITATION..........and he feels very badly about it now..........call him,ask him like a man...ok?

For driving - you need a driver's license. For everything else, a state ID works.

Josh Rath: Just my way. I have idiosyncracies of my very own that I enjoy. When I get drunk I like to get so smashed the cat won't even sleep on my bed with me.............no big deal. When I go into the Outer Limits (the real Highway to the Danger Zone).....I like to be gone for years and years.......just the way that I am. Wob the bad Wabbit

Ms. Kiltie-Losing : Sure it is your business if you want it to be. Memory serves there was another Montana fellow who did not live according to acceptable laws of the state or the federal constitution.........but ofcourse he didn't L I E to get appointed to any OFFICIAL OFFICE...........he just sent little eensy teensy bombs in letters to people so they could blow themselves up.....Unibomber Ted from up west.........you remember him don't you? The guy who had not alot of cash (pobbly dint have liability insurance for his "bombing spree" either ) so he lived in a cabin on the mountainside and invented weird and scary stuff.

Ah, isn't he in prison now for breaking the law?

Ship

Josh Rath and all others: Whether any of you like me at all matters not; I absolutely ,completely and physically could never care less.

But.....for those of you who might want to ENJOY the funniest ever EMAIL........Google to "whattacharacter.com"......there they have a zoom-in to a muslim jihadist....reading a Christmas type muslim order to children of the world about the falselhood of Christmas.....and other insanely goofy muslim s***..........when the muslim creep finishes his missive.......Santa Claus from the distance has been training his scope on his head and BINGO....Santa assassinates the goofy muslim cleric............one bullet.......sweet clean shot right through the head...........as the muslim PUKE is dead on the floor with his blood oozing out onto the floor.............Santa exclaims........"Like that you slimy muslim bastard....ho ho ho"

Beautiful..absolutely beautiful.

If you cannot find it in WHAT TA CHARACTER .com....email me and I will FORWARD it to you......it is priceless.[email protected] Shipley

Ok, here my vote to regag Rob. I forgot how he is. This is a very good reminder..

IS mister Rob Shipley's Job Conspiracy Theorist? I think it would fit greatly with all he EVER posts.

I don't know if this happens to you all, but ever meet those people that just lie, and lie, and lie, and lie, and that's all they do? He seems like one of those. Nothing they say is the truth.

Sandy: Thanks for pointing out that detail.

Shipley
I really don't have an opinion of whether I like or dislike you. All I was doing was what you asked everybody to do, that's Google. And in doing so it seems that I have hit a nerve judging from your response. It is evident that you harbor allot of animosity for our major,law enforcement,and other depts. And in my opinion there are 2 reasons that come to mind on why you keep siting all your victories in Wyo etc. One is an attempt to get your message to them without really involving yourself. And the other is just plain bragging. Cause you know they read these threads. And yes I am standing for the mayor on this for the very simple reasons are that what he did was nothing short of what most people would do depending on their situation and I personally feel that he's done a stellar job for our community as well as Dukart if I were to research that. You and your crew are trying to paint a picture that he's an outlaw on the run. Hell man in my 52 years on this earth I've been in some pretty tight situations to where I have had to sit down and stretch my pay and prioritise where my money goes and this process sometimes depending on the situation took quite some time .Unlike you I wasn't blessed with a large inheritance since you seem to judge people on there net worth or whether or not they served.Father served 25 U.S.A. Korea/ Vietnam me U.S.N. And the other reason is he is not from this town and was able to put a wrench in the good old boy club that is so prevalent in our city and county governments. Which to me has the main agenda to stifle the working people and maintain the big fish in a little pond syndrome. You keep referencing ethics and conduct in case you haven't noticed both of them are damn near extinct as well as understanding in a good percentage of people, government and businesses. And as far as my manhood is concerned I would be happy to meet with you, Ralph, or Joe to discuss matters Cause honestly I am allot better face to face as I am trying to type. Haze grey and under way! I eagerly await an e-mail

Smiley: Seems painfully obvious...you may need to seek mental health help......joey the pauper is a pathelogical liar.......google..."pathelogical"......study to understand WHY and HOW losers like him lie as they do.......for years and years and years..........they cannot help themselves.....they do not know what they do to others by LYING all the time.............they think they're cool.............they think they are alone and aloof and on the level..............but, they harbor a real need to LIE and keep LYING all the time..........very very similar to cleptomaniacs and their need to steal. Do not trust what I write here..........go to the library......or internet and STUDY their craziness yourself.

Caylor: In the event that you may wish to KNOW THE TRUTH.....the whole truth....and nothing but the truth.............here it is.
A. Someone or several people who do not like me because I am not nearly as good a person as my parents were or for other reasons .....and who cannot ever muster up the guts to speak to me face to face......have *used* pauper joey the pathelogical liar to do their bidding for them.

B. In August of 2006......only a very few months after the City Council appointed him mayor.........he selected to think he could throw his weight around........and informed MCPD to cite me for being a Public Nuisance.....because my home sits close to the golfcourse and alot of highminded lunatics drive by and don't like me....don't like my stuff......whatever.

C. You see.......not a one.....never a single person has ever stopped by my home and ever ever ever ever ever....spoken to me....as a free American expressing their rightful opinion about the three older Lincolns or whatever it is or was that upset them.........all the queers and faggots ever did was....complain to joey the pauper..............who has NO LEGAL AUTHORITY to trample upon my Constitutional Rights.......nor yours.

D. Soooooo, MCPD did their thing. I defended myself SUI JURIS in City Court........and made attorney Noble look like a fool. It took Judge Dukart less than 11 minutes to contemplate I was NOT GUILTY !!!!!!!!

E. This was March of 2007.

+++Pay attention here,please. If the cops and the goofy ignorant-of-the-law mayor had done this to you.........and you had gained a LAWFUL ACQUITTAL in the City Court from the Honorable Judge who the mayor does not like.........would you do *anything* different at or upon your residential property...........for any reason? Why ofcourse not!!!!! You had just been acquitted in a COURT OF LAW of no wrongdoing...........everything was scrubbed!!!!

F. So, with NOT A SINGLE EENSY TEENSY thing ever changed at my residence...............seventeen (17) months later............pauper joey who was pissed about losing his first drafted FRAUDULENT case against me.........****did it again**** he AGAIN BROKE THE LAW......acting as mayor......ILLEGALLY directing the MCPD to cite me again.....for the very same misdemeanor ....of the very same ***unchanged in any way property******..............which is ALL ILLEGAL as per the 5th Amendment to the U. S. Constitution and Article II, Section 25 of the Montana Constitution......DOUBLE JEOPARDY. Google both constitutions and then you can READ and KNOW........the double jeopardy clauses in each are SAFEGUARDS to protect the citizens FROM THE GOVERNMENT and prohibit subsequent prosecutions for the same offense.

G. So, this Second Time Around.........after having his fat ass kicked in court by me.........NOT AN ATTORNEY......little pipsqueek Jeff Noble who is despised by alot of people in Miles City over the Dick Hay fiasco.......ACTUALLY recruited two Miles City cops and schooled them how to testify AGAINST me........a resident of Miles City since 1947!!!!!!!! And in doing all of this......joey had the Chief of Police order the two cops ON TO MY PROPERTY....without a Search Warrant....which is so very easily easily obtained.........POLICE CANNOT come on to your property nor mine without a search warrant UNLESS they are in pursuit of a felon or there exists an element in the law known as EXIGENCY !!!! Period.
Anytime they do.....without a Search Warrant as per the Constitution.......that becomes a "warrantless search"......and that act is ILLEGAL and negates or VOIDS or vitiates the entire proceeding!!!!!

H. Then he(attorney ignoble) LIED to Judge Dukart.........stating to the honorable judge that Double Jeopardy did not apply here in this case WHEN IN ALL ARENAS of common sense and reason IT DOES !!!!!

J. After I appealed to the District Court.....attorney Ignoble.....***LIED***** to Honorable Judge Gary Day !!!!!!!!!!

K. And.....all the while............when I made a REQUEST FOR DISCOVERY of eight eight eight (8) certain informations attendent to the charges against me.............joe whalen and jeff ignoble............NEVER EVER furnished but ONE......a copy of the City Court ACQUITTAL of March 2007!!!!!!!!!!!

You readers do not KNOW how badly your rights and the laws are TWISTED every day in Miles City by the likes of ignoble and liar joey.............you simply do not know.


A good attorney......any decent attorney......when presented with the LYING LUNACY of the now resigning LAWBREAKING mayor.........would have...should have......said "No. I can not and will not prosecute Shipley AGAIN......because it violates the statutes ......in particular....."res judicata"....."estoppel"....and"double jeopardy".

But these thugs all get away with all of this.......because NONE of YOU ever make them ACCOUNTABLE. This is 2000% truth.

The very same reason why several years ago......the Fire Chief....wasted.....absolutely wasted.....$1135....eleven hundred and thirty five dollars.......on a DELUXE CHROME grill guard for his personal FD pickup !!!!!!!!!!

I just had Greg Kmetz of Nolley's Welding build mine for my Chevy Duramax 3/4 ton crewcab 4x4 two weeks ago......for $225.00 !!!!!!!!!! One fourth as much !!!!!!!!!

Now however, I am suing whalen, ignoble, all four cops........and a City Council member who FALSELY testified against me and BROKE THE LAW.

We will see................ok? Ship

Sandy Kiltie-Losing : Don't you think it way more than just a slight oddity that pauper joey......in living in Montana now eight years......was never questioned about his true identity? In the last eight years I have flown on no fewer than perhaps 20 or 25 airliners and each time TSA sees my Dr Lic and tickets and luggage and everything. Does he *do* all his *official ident * with a Birth Certificate? Or is there something bigger here than any of us know?
Several of you good people have asked the solid question...."What about his driving City vehicles?" Very very very good question for sure.

I am curious (as is Bruce Ingraham who is also suing joey for his unauthorized and ILLEGAL ordering of a warrantless search) why.....the State did not require his TRUE and LEGAL identification when he was appointed to the DEQ Commission.....a State Board?

Rob Shipley

Mr Shipley- I really think your excessive use of periods could warrant mental health. Googling words is not usually something I have to do. The only thing I think I'm good at is vocabulary and spelling. My husband posts on my name and makes errors. That irritates me because I think if you post in a public forum, you should have great grammar. You sir, do not. You make spelling errors occasionally and your misuse of the "." is very very annoying. I don't care about "pauper Joey." I looked up the definition of pauper for you.

- pau·per·ism \-p?-?ri-z?m\ noun
Pronunciation: \'po?-p?rFunction: noun
Etymology: Latin, poor - more at poor
Date: 1516
1 : a person destitute of means except such as are derived from charity; specifically : one who receives aid from funds designated for the poor
2 : a very poor person

- pau·per·ism \-p?-?ri-z?m\ noun

So basically are you saying poor Joey? I mean either you could be using that term sarcastically, or you mean he is literally poor. Eiter way it's not a very good insult. I think "transgressing Joey" would be a better term. Mr. Shipley, I'm sure there are plenty of people out there off of MC.COM that like you ad care about what you have to say.

I suggest you stop trying to seek approval of these people like the unpopular band geek in High School. It's not going to happen. You have screwed yourself in the approval department. I guess you get a thrill from having others read your posts. Mostly, I skim through to get an understanding of who you are so I can verbally assault you.

I think we all get it. You were f***ed over by every government official and their mom, and you want revenge, paypack, justice?

Interesting. Well my better advice for you is - Stop Bitching and get use to it like most of us have done. Life is never going to be fair, period.

Smiley: You seem so high and mighty in your address......"Eiter...." and such....perhaps you ought to better edit your missive? Makes absolutely not one iota of difference to me however.........I simply and I do mean simply could NOT EVER be moved to ever ****care***** anything about what you think of me or ever write about me...........Lady, you should read some of your stuff...........you ain't never seen the ball since the kickoff !!!!
You do not have an inkling that pauper joey has enjoyed an......ILLEGAL.......vendetta against me for over three years. Twice he has sent the cops after me to embarrass me with Public Nuisance BS. The first time was OK. I beat his goofy little prosecuting attorney in a COURT OF LAW !!!!! That ends it......as per the Montana and U.S. Constitutions which each hold statutes that PROHIBIT GOVERNMENT from subsequent ONGOING or NEVERENDING persecutions !!!!!!!!
I was born and raised in Miles City. I grew up in the Pauley family that gave Miles City ((( and the world)))the ONLY ANNUAL BUCKING HORSE SALE in the cosmos!!!!!!!! I love Miles City. There for years and years was a popular slogan that Miles Citians enjoyed.......(way before your time)......"Meet anyone in Miles City at the Beacon, the Bison or the 600". My folks owned and operated Beacon Carter Service and W&S Propane Company from 1945 until 1982.

Trivia you may want to remember......the Beacon in Miles City,Montana (population 10,000).......became the LARGEST AREA-WISE EXXON JOBBERSHIP in the entire Rocky Mountain Region of EXXON USA !!!!!!! Hello? Way way way over your head,right?
In 1976 Beacon Carter Tire Department sold and delivered so many many many heavy equipment tires to Long Construction Company and Western Energy in Colstrip we bought a new $36,000 service truck( a Ford F700)with all the bells and whistles- - -air compressor,hydraulic boom, generator etc- - - -we enjoyed such high revenue from all this tire business (usually well over $200,000 every MONTH)......we leased the F700 to Long's for a mere ONE DOLLAR A YEAR !!!!!!!!! This is $ucce$$ and this $ucce$$ arrived in Miles City because Miles City has a GREAT MANY very very wonderful industrious people here !!!!!!!
Here in little Miles City in 1953 when my mom and dad reopened the Beacon after the 1952 fire........that Opening Day cut a W O R L D R E C O R D in gasoline and fuel sales- - - a WORLD RECORD !!!!!
Twelve years later when "Ship and Mary" opened in May Interstate Enco (now the Town Pump).......they BROKE THEIR OWN W O R L D R E C O R D !!!!!!! ****The mayor of Miles City made the front page of the Star gassing up his car and........HIS...lawnmower *****
Doc Balsam of Northern Tank Line redirected eight (8) of his petroleum transports that day through Miles City just to enhance the total WORLD RECORD fuel sales of the Opening of Shipley's Interstate Enco !!!!!!!
These are highlights and points of why Miles City is such a great- - - -GREAT- - - place to live.
From that enterprise which employed over 40 people for over 40 years came substantial success........none of which should ever be marred by the likes of California transplant little joey pauper whalen. He can take all his lawlessness and penchant to corrupt and stick it all you know where; that way,you see, he will always know where it is. I LOVE MILES CITY !!!!!!! It is my home.........and I can buy and sell joe whalen!!!!
Why would anyone with any real intelligence ever think I would ever lay down and play dead for the likes of a screwup like joe whalen?
Duh?
If your curiosity drives you to ever do your citizen's duty.....you are privileged to read the Public Record at both City Hall and the County Courthouse of all that pauper joey has ILLEGALLY tried to foist off on me.........ok?
I as born here. I realize full well that my parents being tasked to spend $65 at the old Holy Rosary Hospital for my birth was perhaps a waste in your opinion on May 16th 1947. Think whatever you wish. My opinion of little joey pauper was that he slithered out from under some hot rock in the Mohave desert of Californa.......unannounced and surely UNLICENSED !!!!!!!

Richard Bonine : Sir, I disagree with you. Our mayor nor anyone else's mayors should not be accorded "slack" for willingly and knowingly breaking the law. Period. The mayor has to be accountable to each of us in Miles City, and, for certain Judges Dukart and Day as well as Governor Schweitzer. He has committed perjury into each of the judge's courts against me, and, LIED on his application to the State of Montana to become appointed to the DEQ Commission last January.
His lies are of the same basis as Robert Eddy's drinking- - - neither could help themselves. Robert Eddy suffered grave physiological discrepancies and alcohol soothed the flames of the fire of life for him...much much to an excess. That was all sad....just sad.
pauper joey lies because he is most assuredly a pathelogical liar......he has done it his whole loser life and now....at this late juncture cannot help himself.
Cleptomaniacs steal because they cannot help themselves. They need their *fix*.
My *fix* is that I enjoy.....truly enjoy the $ucce$$ and complete operation of St. Vincent's de Paul......Linda Fisher before and Charlie Carranco(sp?) now.

****** In I believe 2007 Linda Love told me St. V's donated $77,000 to charity in Miles City.....from profits......that's over $6,000 a month or $200 each and every day!!!!! Yet another PROOF of why the GOOD or GREAT people of Miles City do not need a California pauper at the helm of city government********

Linda Fisher was a year ahead of me at Custer. We have been friends for 45+ years and her $uccee$ there was phenomenal. Charlie's family has been for 40+ years also in well standing with mine. Tom Carranco worked at Interstate Enco back in the 60s before he went to complete a most honorable career in the Montana Highway Patrol.

pauper joey's *fix* is that he loves trying to get away with s***.

Smiley" Once more. Your sad advice about you thinking I ought to just "get over it" or "deal with it"......sadly so...."like most of us"......is basically despicable. It *is* because none of you ever ever ever stand up against the TYRANNY and DESPOTISM of the likes of pauper joey that we have nonperformers just like him laced all over and through government at every level. City Water departmeent persons are good people. There is no PRACTICAL way anyone could ever compare joey with Linda Wildman's direct professionalism..........nor Bille Burkhalter's pleasant manner........nor Sandy Kuchynka's pleasant business ways.....nor the
similar business appropriateness of Jennifer Boschee or a whole raft of good men and women who work for the City of Miles City. Now retired Jerry Kaiser would be a TWELVE TIMES better mayor than pauper joey..........because he has never had to lie in his life.....because if anyone didn't ever believe him.......whenever he told them a windy story..........he could beat the stuffing out of them.

pauper joey couldn't whip his way out of a wet paper sack.

******Be advised also,Lady, I do not do or act or defend as I do solely for myself...........I am 21.....I can handle just about anything life sends my way........I also fight government sloth and judicial tyranny and oppression for each of you.....just like Patrick Henry......."....give me liberty or give me death."

Rob:

Feel free to disagree if you like...

My initial understanding was that he had an expired MT license, expired plates, and no proof of insurance. Since then, it was pointed out that he never had a MT license and the expired license was from out of state. For me, that raises additional questions about who this guy really is and if he is trying to hide anything. It seems a little odd that you would become a part of a community and not get new drivers license. There is no law that says you must have a drivers license, unless you are going to drive. Frankly, his reasoning for no having a MT drivers license is no one else's business as long as he has a clean record.

Joe has stated that he will plead guilty and will make complete restitution. That is good enough for me.

When I said we should cut him some slack I had a couple of thoughts in mind:

- I have learned the hard way that jumping to conclusions based on what is printed in the newspaper or posted on the internet, should be taken with a truckload of salt. No reason to rush to judgement until the charges are presented in court.

-As long as the mayor doesn't have a criminal background he is trying to hide (I have absolutely no reason to believe he does) the charges against him do not rise to the level of needing to resign. I believe that he has been a very effective administrator. I believe he genuinely cares about Miles City and is trying to appropriate the available resources in an equitable manner. I believe he has demonstrated a maturity in leading MC that others have lacked.

Frankly sir, your constant berating of local government and your refusal to cooperate with local government in an attempt to do what is necessary to change the culture of MC, so that it can grow economically, makes the job of the mayor much more difficult. You might consider becoming part of the solution, rather than part of the problem.

I stand by my original statement: unless the facts presented in a court of law reveal new information we should cut the mayor some slack.

Make it stop. Please, please, make it stop.

Richard: But he PREMEDITATED a way to BREAK the law!!!! He did not just *accidently* not renew his Driver License.....he has NEVER had a Montana DL and has to!!!
His application to the Governor of Montana is an ILLEGAL FRAUDULENT document..........period............he LIES to any and all people he can.......for as long as he can get away with it. Period.
Lying is his modus operundi.

His going after me TWO TIMES.........is all B S.

It was all ilegally executed in the first instance and was put to rest with a L A W F U L acquittal in a Court of Record.........from honorable City Judge Dukart.


But.....it was pauper joey BY HIMSELF who directed the Miles City Police to once again try and prosecute me for a crime I never did commit and did put to end with a legal acquittal!!!!!!

joey did this.....all by his LYING little self.

Like the FOOL that he is..........he still believes that his relating to the MCPD he had received "anonymous" telephone calls about me being a public nuisance......is all within the legal confines and parameters of the Rules of Evidence of the Montana Code Annotated..........and it is NOT !!!!!

There has never been a one.....not ever a SINGLE SOLITARY Miles City person come forward and ever SIGN an official COMPLAINT that my residence has ever caused them to suffer any R E A L injury as per the law. NOT A SINGLE ONE......yet pauper joey......knowing he is well ABOVE the law.......had to puke up all this crap.

Miles City nor Missoula nor Butte nor Terry cops can ever just walk onto your property and take photographs to PERSECUTE you with.....at their leisure.......just because they're cops.........without following the EXACT steps of the Due Process of the Law- - - - - which DEMAND first the obtaining from a judge a REAL SEARCH WARRANT due to the possible and provable probable cause.

This is chiseled in granite !!!!!! They cannot do it!!!!!!

Yet, against me, and against Bruce Ingraham, pauper joey thought myself and Mr. Ingraham had to take his brand of California hippe B S........and neither of us has to or will.

He is a fool and he broke the laws......many many many many times and needs to go on down the trail.

Ship

Totally agree with you on all you say Rob!!

Eventually God will punish you for this, Larry.

It seems to me that one can do most things without a driver's license if one has a state ID or a valid passport. But who wants to carry his passport around all the time? I guess it must be easier living in a small town. Here in the big city I have to show someone my driver's license 2 or 3 times a week.

Larry, I agree with Gunnar. You will probably rot in hell for this.

I stand behind you Rob. Please know that many people here in Miles City feel the same as you do. Miles City needs you!

But he PREMEDITATED a way to BREAK the law!!!! He did not just *accidently* not renew his Driver License.....he has NEVER had a Montana DL and has to!!!

You only NEED a drivers license if you are going to drive. He got caught without one and will pay the price.

As to the rest of your allegations, I am sure there are two sides to the story. Maybe you have been "wronged", I don't have enough information to know one way or the other. MC.com is NOT the place to try the case.

What I do know for certain is that if life were fair, horses would ride half the time.

[This message has been edited by Richard Bonine, Jr (12/7/2009)]

Julie: Thank you again. I see here where a couple of the "regulars" are trying to strike a nerve with the websmaster ( I don't even know him- - -Larry?). That is OK.....if they can't handle TRUTH and lots of it..........like in a sworn LEGAL oath......"...to solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God".......then it is not our problem.

* * * joey pauper got here by completely exercising ways.....(plural meaning many)...to circumvent the WHOLE TRUTH......and that is why.....fate....itself has now given us all this miracle that he just fell on his sword.

Ship

I see here where a couple of the "regulars" are trying to strike a nerve with the websmaster ( I don't even know him- - -Larry?). That is OK.....if they can't handle TRUTH and lots of it..........like in a sworn LEGAL oath......"...to solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God".......then it is not our problem.

I can handle the truth. I am not sure we have heard the truth, though. It's pretty obvious you have an axe to grind. ( and frankly you have nearly gone through the metal and are at the handle.)

You know how Ship always claims he never pays any taxes, and he never did anything wrong, and he was acquited of the charge of threatening an IRS agent. Well, he is TECHNICALLY correct, but reading the June 13, 2008 Billings Gazetter article, one gets a little different perspective on why the Court "acquitted" him. Its worth the time to read. Bold is added by me.

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A federal judge has acquitted a Miles City man accused of threatening an Internal Revenue Service employee in an e-mail to a tax firm he had hired to resolve an inheritance tax dispute.

Robert Shipley, 61, buried his face in his hands as Chief U.S. District Judge Richard Cebull ruled late Wednesday afternoon that he was not guilty of threatening communication. Shipley was the last witness in the three-day bench trial and gave emotional testimony. He had been incarcerated since his arrest more than 10 months ago.

Shipley admitted that he wrote and sent an e-mail last June to employees at Quantum Financial Solutions in Colorado in which he complained about Quantum's handling of his case and threatened to get a baseball bat or club and beat in the head of the IRS officer assigned to the matter.

But he never intended to communicate a threat or to harm the officer and was ashamed of the language he used, Shipley said. In the e-mail, he referred to Sandra Welch, the IRS officer, as "superbitch Welch."

"I was a mess," Shipley said. "I was angry."

Shipley also said he had no idea his e-mail would be disclosed to the IRS.

Cebull acquitted Shipley shortly after his testimony and without hearing closing arguments from defense attorney Robert Stephens or Assistant U.S. Attorney Marcia Hurd.

Cebull said there was reasonable doubt whether Shipley specifically intended to communicate a threat to the IRS officer. The judge also found that Shipley was suffering from a diminished mental capacity at the time of the incident.

Cebull reminded Shipley of his obligation to pay taxes "whether you like it or not."

"Do you understand?" Cebull asked.

"Yes sir, I do," Shipley replied.

"The defendant is free to go," Cebull said.

Shipley had been incarcerated since Aug. 2, 2007, when he was arrested on the indictment. If convicted, Shipley had faced a maximum of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

Shipley's tax problem stemmed from an inheritance received in the late 1990s. Trying to resolve it became an obsession for Shipley, who offended everyone in the IRS he dealt with on the matter, said Stephens. The dispute eventually ensnared two of Shipley's business associates with whom he jointly owned property that became the target of an IRS lien.

Shipley further complicated the matter with his belief that the government's taxing authority was unconstitutional and that the IRS was acting fraudulently, Stephens said.

Shipley became emotional on the stand, saying he never meant to hurt his longtime business partners and friends who tried to help him.

The tax problem consumed him and he got angry and depressed, he said.

Shipley said he refused to sign a batch of tax returns that had been figured by a Miles City accountant because of a dispute over the amount.

Shipley, according to Hurd, was responsible for the problems because he had not filed tax returns since about 1998 and the IRS had to estimate the amount of taxes due. Shipley rejected the advice of both the Miles City accountant and of Quantum to file his returns as a step to solving the dispute, she said.

Government witnesses said Shipley had been warned by a Treasury Department agent in 2005 against making threatening statements to the IRS. The agent referred his investigation to the U.S. Attorney's Office, which declined to prosecute the case.

Welch, the IRS officer, testified that she got a call last June from a Quantum employee who told her he was concerned for her safety and sent her a copy of Shipley's e-mail, she said.

"Needless to say, I have a loaded .45 on my night stand now," Welch said.

Under questioning by Hurd, Shipley admitted he espoused views that he didn't have to pay taxes and that he typed "American Patriot" under his name. But he denied joining any tax protest group.

"Absolutely not, and I never would," he said.

Earlier this year, Shipley filed his tax returns and resolved his case with the IRS.

I wonder if it was Ship's reading of the Holy Bible that taught him how to threaten to smash in the head of an IRS agent, or to call her a "superbitch." What would Jesus do, Right?

From the article:

"I was a mess," Shipley said. "I was angry."

My question: Why the past tense?

I do not like dealing with private matters in public. But, as with my recent posts about my Vitamin D deficiency, sometimes the scale tips in favor of doing exactly that.

Therefore, here is an email exchange that Rob initiated with me today. The email addresses have been redacted, but the profanity has not. It is what it is... Just be forewarned. (NOTE: Hahaha - the mc.com program changes profanity to less profane words - e.g., sh** to poop. I haven't reread the text yet, but this could be VERY funny. Just know that where there is a cute little term, the original text from Rob to me was about as raw as it gets. ~ Steve)

Steve


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From: Rob Shipley <ship>
To: Steve Craddock <stevebob>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 10:59:47 AM
Subject: Tough poop

Sorry to have recently reoffended you,Sir. Such is life. Deal with it. OK?

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From: stevebob
To: Rob Shipley
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Tough poop


Rob,

I'm not sure why you think you offended me. You cannot offend me because I am convinced you suffer a mental illness caused by a traumatic injury to your brain from your auto/truck accident years ago. I understand your good friends, of whom you have many, have encouraged you to get help and treatment at different times over the years, but you have always refused. That's unfortunate, but it's your decision and I respect it. I just think it's sad that you don't realize that when you post your tirades on milescity.com, you damage your own standing in this community more than you harm the reputation of those you rail against.

I hope you have a Merry Christmas.

~ Steve

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From: Rob Shipley <ship>
To: stevebob
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:55:45 PM
Subject: Re: Tough poop


Steve,huh? Hmmmmmm. Well I don't know you and do not ever care to. It is a complete waste of time....and I mean a COMPLETE waste of time to try and explain anything.............ONE SINGLE THING to 95% of you mental midgets on milescity.com..................COMPLETE like in NOT POSSIBLE.

First and foremost..........I could not ever give a procreate if I offended you.............we are not friends..........and therefore.......your procreateed up opinion of me is useless, absolutely useless...............no one gives a procreate about you.....nor me.............so, no one cares what you think or like...........and me neither for that case.

Why even mention it?

I don't give a procreate what you think you know about the head-on collision 40 years ago...............and no one else does either. I am tremendously smarter than you..........a procreateuva lot tougher than you........plus, I can buy and sell your useless dumb ass...................so? Just procreate off and die......that would please be greatly..........

I know you will never ever....like in 10,000 years ever be man enough to meet me and introduce yourself.............because you are probably a pelican. So, then, just leave me the procreate alone,ok?

None of my good friends you even know..........so just shut the procreate up.

"tirades" is your pelicanheaded opinion..................but ofcourse you do not ever know that..............ALOT of people.............who NEVER log on to .com..............because it is so very very very procreateing dumb.............thank me from time to time............for a great many things I stand up for.............and for what I think and know and do.

Let it go...............

Get this straight...............I cannot,absolutely CANNOT *damage* my standing in the procreateed community with anything in .com...............not physically possible here on the small planet.

Where did you get the idea...........(you were probably spoon fed it).............that miles city.com was ever important for any reason?

Has your cheese slid off your cracker? No people of ANY intelligence whatsoever think anything of Miles City.com other than it is a piece of poop.................where the procreate have you been?

You most assuredly don't even live here anyway.....................

My mental illness that you pride yourself with knowing all about is sufficiently a great deal more worthwhile in EVERY facet of any human existence than your whole useless dope-ridden totally procreateed up body.....................so just leave me alone and do not ever ever ever email me another of your SICK threats ever again..................

I retract my offhanded previous apology...............please procreate off and die with your idiot opinions of me.

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From: Rob Shipley <ship>
To: Steve Craddock <stevebob>
Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 8:15:04 AM
Subject: Re: Tough poop


Rob,

Thank you for writing. Apparently what I said upset you. I didn't mean to do that. I simply applied to you the same principle I always apply to communication - Honesty. An honest opinion is all you're ever gonna get from me.

I apologize if I stated my opinion so abruptly that it offended your sensibilities or hurt your feelings. But you seem like a straight-talker and so I cut thru the BS and got to the meat of the matter because I thought that was what you would prefer.

I only used the word "tirade" because you use a lot of capitals and exclamation points when you write. That signifies heated emotions, which in turn are usually associated with tirades. It was an easy mistake, and it would probably be a good idea to use less capitals and exclamation points in your writing if you don't want others to make the same mistake.

Bottom line: I will take your advice and "let it go." I hope you can do the same because, as I said, I never intended to offend or hurt you.

~ Steve


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From: Rob Shipley <ship>
To: stevebob
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:55:45 PM
Subject: Re: Tough poop

Steve,huh? Hmmmmmm. Well I don't know you and do not ever care to. It is a complete waste of time....and I mean a COMPLETE waste of time to try and explain anything.............ONE SINGLE THING to 95% of you mental midgets on milescity.com..................COMPLETE like in NOT POSSIBLE.

First and foremost..........I could not ever give a procreate if I offended you.............we are not friends..........and therefore.......your procreateed up opinion of me is useless, absolutely useless...............no one gives a procreate about you.....nor me.............so, no one cares what you think or like...........and me neither for that case.

Why even mention it?

I don't give a procreate what you think you know about the head-on collision 40 years ago...............and no one else does either. I am tremendously smarter than you..........a procreateuva lot tougher than you........plus, I can buy and sell your useless dumb ass...................so? Just procreate off and die......that would please be greatly..........

I know you will never ever....like in 10,000 years ever be man enough to meet me and introduce yourself.............because you are probably a pelican. So, then, just leave me the procreate alone,ok?

None of my good friends you even know..........so just shut the procreate up.

"tirades" is your pelicanheaded opinion..................but ofcourse you do not ever know that..............ALOT of people.............who NEVER log on to .com..............because it is so very very very procreateing dumb.............thank me from time to time............for a great many things I stand up for.............and for what I think and know and do.

Let it go...............

Get this straight...............I cannot,absolutely CANNOT *damage* my standing in the procreateed comm

Question for Patti Hughes:

Earlier today, somewhere in the midst of all of Rob's rantings, you stated that you "agree with EVERYTHING" (emphasis mine) that Rob says.

Well, I ask you to read everything he wrote above and tell me, please, if you still want to make that statement.

And don't worry - it's no big deal. It's only your credibility that's on the line...

So I googled "pathelogical" and it suggested another word - pathological - whatever that means. Brian - your idea for Mayors Joe's consequences was great! And Ben - I think Larry should charge for this site. I havent laughed this hard in ages! WOW!

I love:

"pelicanheaded"

and I am totally using the phrase:

"Has your cheese slid off the cracker man?"


Oh, then in the other post, which I read afte leaving this....

"You write now as if you too have not seen the ball since the kickoff."

[This message has been edited by Cory Cutting (12/8/2009)]

"You write now as if you too have not seen the ball since the kickoff."


Or, maybe it was another way around? It makes these threads make a little more sense, if so.

"Pelicanheaded" wasn't in the original post. When rendering for public display, the site automatically filters certain words.

- The four letter C-word is replaced with "pelican".

- The four letter F-word is replaced with "procreate".

- The four letter S-word is replaced with "poop".

Etc.

Although he didn't attack me directly, Rob's emails are very similar to the ones he sent me earlier in the year. I asked him to cut out the obscenity but he continued to send me obscenity-laced emails. So I blocked his email address. Very simple to do.

my credibility? You dont know me then...

Patti Hughes wrote:

Totally agree with you on all you say Rob!!

Patti, it appears to me that Shipley blames every Native American for the murder of Marty Etchemendy. That strikes me as a racist remark. Do you agree with him on that?

Patti, Shipley also delighted in telling this joke that disparages Muslims:

http://milescity.com/foru...146#121571

Do you agree with and share Rob's apparent Islamaphobia? Do you love "hate speech"?

- Dave

"Pelicanheaded" wasn't in the original post. When rendering for public display, the site automatically filters certain words.

Given the randomness of Mr. Shipley's posting, complete with periods and spaces, that must be some incredible chunk of code you have as a filter.

"Ask not what your pelicanry can do for you, ask what you can do for your pelicanry" - JFK

Just wanted to try out the pelican filter....

[This message has been edited by Gunnar Emilsson (12/8/2009)]

Wouldn't we have all gotten a shocker if it hadn't worked?

And I'm still using the phrase.... it's too rich to pass up.


MY GOD MAN, HAS YOUR CHEESE SLID OFF THE CRACKER?!

Hey! It works it also works for images!

We're doing pelicans again??

http://milescity.com/foru...=all#88132

Hal. In this context, a pelican eating a pigeon...never mind.

I haven't used my MC.com account in years, but I could not help myself from signing in and commenting upon this thread.

If one reads it with a plate of food in hand, it is truly dinner and a show. This show is marked by humor, tragedy, fantasy, grace, ill-manners, triumph and melancholy.

Bravo to each actor and to the over-used elipses. May you rise again for Act II, or perhaps we had best let the curtain fall.

What does Native Americans and Muslims have to do with this post? I am not a racist, I hate everyone equally. Deb,Gina, Crystal there you go.