Constitutional Rights......Double Jeopardy
Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
On my way to Sidney where I am employed. MORE LATER.......Judge Dukart, Honorable Judge Day, and Miles City STAR have all been LIED to by City mayor and city prosecuting attorney.

Rob Shipley
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Posted by Kyle L. Varnell (+3745) 12 years ago
Are you going to post anything more than just INNUENDO and HEARSAY Rob? Try elaborating on your post before throwing out unsubstantiated BS.
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Posted by JCF (+393) 12 years ago
Kyle,

In Rob Shipley's world, whatever he says is FACT and TRUTH. Whatever anybody else says is HEARSAY and INNUENDO and LIES. Plus, there are lots of !!!!!!!! in Rob's world too. Oh, and the sky is a different color.
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Posted by bh (+193) 12 years ago
Mr. Shipley was fined for his yard being a pig sty. I say a picture is worth a thousand words. Would someone please post some? Then we can really see how much "lies" and "innuendo" there really was.
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4460) 12 years ago
I think those were posted a long time ago. I'm pretty sure Mr. Shipley is a convicted felon, too. Unconstitutionally, though.

[This message has been edited by Buck Showalter (9/24/2009)]
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Dear Buck and Miles City good People: Yes, I was convicted of a Category "D" felony in July of 1988.....primarily because my ex-wife had stolen *our* FFL (federal firearms license) out of our pawnshop- - - in direct violation of our divorce decree from the 16th District Court; and, I had inherited $99,640 worth of 222 rifles,pistols and shotguns who my federally licensed gun collector father had amassed over his entire lifetime. My ex-wife was upset because her divorcing me for being in her words "a jerk" had thereby disallowed that she could share in half of this $100,000 cache of guns.This was at that time she and I had been doing very well- - - LEGALLY- - - buying and selling in our local LICENSED pawnshop.....then the only one in town where she and I enjoyed 98% of all of that sort of business. ****(Since our pawnshop fell apart, in Miles City, four others have sprouted).****

If you readers do not know anything about a "category D felony".....it is truly a Mickey Mouse felony.....the least of federal felonies......and in the FINE PRINT of the law.....any person suspected of committing a category D felony upon arrest cannot be LEGALLY held in jail overnight in the United States of America.

One of the very very best attorneys in Miles City........good and close friend.....Terry Hanson.......advised me that a category D felony was no big deal and if I was to fight the federal government over the STING and ENTRAPMENT they had exercised against me would cost between $15,000 and $20,000.

Besides, that was 21 years ago. So if anyone thinks I am a criminal due to this Mickey Mouse felony. so be it. There are only a couple of hundred people in Miles City who know the W H O L E truth.....and they don't care.

I am not ever near or close to being like Jesus.......our Lord and Savior........in His persecution for His way ot telling the truth.....against the local government's TRAMPLING UPON THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE OF HIS DAY......he was crucified.

I am merely being fined, threatened with incarceration and red flagged to be doomed to become a failure only here in my own hometown because the mayor is ignorant of the law and is successfully LYING to all of Miles City in his vendetta against me......one single plain and ordinary fellow who justs wants to be left alone.........and who has told all his friends and neighbors......that whenever the despots of city government would ever cease ILLEGALLY PERSECUTING me.......I would better mow my lawn and find the time to take my three older Lincoln Town Cars to my bullpen on Belmont.

This is the truth. And, as per the Holy Bible of GOD Almighty.....the truth will set me free.

Thank you.

"Ship" 234-2477 anytime.....call me.....ask me.....visit like a CITIZEN......please don't continue to SHIRK your civilian citizen duty and believe or trust in all the LAWLESSNESS and ILLEGALITY of the local city government.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Dear Kyle: This is not unsubstantiated BS. I have already been ACQUITTED in a court of law.....the City Court of Miles City....by the most honorable Ralph J. Dukart, Jr. ****Google ACQUITTAL and DOUBLE JEOPARDY on your puter- - - -read, study, understand and know what THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA actually mean !!!!

In March of 2007 I was acquitted of maintaining a public nuisance.

From March of 2007 until I was cited again in August of 2008......a mere 17 months......NOTHING EVER CHANGED AT MY RESIDENCE. There was no increase in firewood, there was no increase in anything. Reasonably so, some stuff had actually been taken to Belmont out along Leighton Blvd.

IN THE LAW.......the Order of ACQUIITAL from the City Judge meant that I was innocent and NOT GUILTY.

And because of the 5th Amendment to the U. S. Constitution and Article ll, Chapter One, Section 25 of the MONTANA CONSTITUTION.....I was *****protected***** from ever being illegally charged with maintaining a public nuisance ! ! ! ! !

IN A COURT OF LAW I HAD BEEN FOUND NOT GUILTY.


And now, because the people of Miles City allow the city government to T R A M P L E upon the Constitutional Rights of any person who disagrees with these despots..........I am FALSELY and ILLEGALLY being persecuted again and to an extreme degree.


+ + + + + All I ever wanted was for the city to leave me alone......so I could........NOT UNDER ILLEGAL PRESSURE as if Miles City was in a Russian gulag.........attend to my personal property........and thereby please the ***just**** and ***fair**** constructive criticisms of......Jim Lucas, Dennis Mullen, Denny and Chris Young, John Morford, Gene Riley,Jerry Doeden, Brent Certain, Vern and Linda Erlenbusch, Karen and Gary Morken and Craig and Deann Miller. + + ++ +


This TRUTH which Miles City government ACTUALLY RUNS AWAY FROM and FLEES like the Bubonic Plague was never good enough for them.

They had to illegally persecute me until I was nearly insane.........and......LIE to two proper sitting most honorable judges........Ralph Dukart and Gary Day.........to.........under the.........*color of law* (Google this too)........get their evil accomplished against me.


Thank you.

Rob Shipley
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
JCF : Your reply is not actually valid. That is because you do not know the truth. The truth is.....you have a right to know. Call me....anytime....24-7-365.....234-2477..I will decently visit with you and remind you Y O U R Constitutional Rights are being subjected to being completely voided by the tyranny of local and national government. You also as a citizen have the duty......the real duty....if you desire to READ and KNOW every letter and every word of the truth......as it is all PUBLIC RECORD at the City Court and the 16th District Court.

I am being persecuted. I am being persecuted because the GOODNESS of good men like Ralph Dukart and Gary Day is being wasted by the illegal operations of the mayor of Miles City and the Deputy City Attorney.


********They hold no LEGAL jurisdiction upon my personal property nor upon your personal property.......even though they will lie to you that they have. Ask of Mr. Argenbright (spelling and name not known to be correct......please excuse this slight error). He was told to me to have been ILLEGALLY subjected to several WARRANTLESS searches from the desire of the mayor.......seeking asbestos in his several trucks or pickups.....and IT IS HIS LIVELIHOOD TO REMOVE ASBESTOS......this is what the fellow does for his living !!!!! And Miles City's illegally operating mayor had police or deputies make ILLEGAL SEARCHES of this property !!!!! *****

This is EXACTLY what the mayor had the MCPD do against me. MCPD was directed by the mayor to *illegally*.....WITHOUT a PROPERLY OBTAINED (and very very very easy to do) Search Warrant......go on to and inspect and photograph my personal stuff.........every single step of it ALL ILLEGAL.

Would the *real* City Attorney ever get involved with such a bizarre......goofy.......diatribe? I doubt it. Call him. Ask him.

I think, like his wonderful father before him.......a very very fine attorney........some other D E C E N T compromise would have been worked out.

This is merely my opinion as it is my First Amendment Right to state it.

Rob Shipley
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Posted by spacekace (+895) 12 years ago
Hey...has anyone seen that new TV show on A&E I believe... HOARDERS??? I stayed up all night watching a Hoarders marathon... I think we may have a nominee for this amazing real life television show...... Anyone want to help with the nomination packet?
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
BH : Please know there exist forty (40) photos of mine that I used in my defense before City Judge Dukart in 2007 that did in fact justify that there exists a great great many other residential properties within a 6 block radius of my home that are actually....specifically......more cluttered....more in offense etcetera.

In the last three weeks I also have taken another 27 of the very same sort of stuff that has not been.......HAS NOT been subjected to this persecution.

Thank you.

Rob Shipley
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Spacekace: If my suspected hoarding of older Lincoln Town Cars which is my CONSTITUTIONALLY guaranteed R I G H T to do upsets you......I will ask your forgiveness. Now that Loyd Ketchum and John Scanlan have been weeks and weeks clearing my Belmont Bullpen I can and will remove these older Lincolns to there.
When the government enters your home and steals your gold,silver and guns, please then, remember me as just an ordinary fellow being subjected to the FALSE intent and operation of the law....ok?

"Ship"
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Spacekace: If you consider "hoarding" being over 100 typed pages of the LAW and specific instances where the prosecuting attorney has blatantly LIED to each of the most honorable judges......call me, ask me.....I will show them to you.

***As is my CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT......I have every guarantee to be ...."safe and secure".....in my papers,etc....*****

Rob Shipley
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Posted by Kyle L. Varnell (+3745) 12 years ago
Dear Kyle: This is not unsubstantiated BS.

Rob, this is what you put in your post that started this thread:

Judge Dukart, Honorable Judge Day, and Miles City STAR have all been LIED to by City mayor and city prosecuting attorney.

There was nothing more than that which lead me to my comments. I would like to thank you for explaining it in further detail and only wished you had done so to start off the thread is all.
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Posted by Tony Manero (+98) 12 years ago
Wow, Ship. You really are fired up and I like that. I am just a little confused on your case exactly. Are they reinstating the charges from the previous case in which you were aquitted, or are these new charges? If they are new charges you are not protected by double jeapordy. DJ only protects you from being charged by the same offense that you committed, and were tried, and aquitted from. for example, If you got a DUI in march of 2004 and went to court for it and got aquitted somehow, they couldnt take you back and charge you for it again. But just because you were aquitted from that DUI charge doesn't mean that they can't ever charge you with one again if they caught you driving drunk.
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4460) 12 years ago
They're just mad because the rich folks don't like you by their golf course, Ship.

I wish I had some gold, silver, and guns for them to take away.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6165) 12 years ago
Just clean up your freakin' yard, Rob. Have some consideration for someone other than yourself for a change.
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Posted by spacekace (+895) 12 years ago
Then it is my constitutional right to express MY opinion...and IMO you're property might as well be the city dump, house condemned and burnt by the mayor, while the citizens of Miles City have a weeny roast in the disgusting flames.

Just using my constitutional right to express my opinion. Please forgive me if this upsets you.

[This message has been edited by spacekace (9/25/2009)]
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Posted by BLT (+92) 12 years ago
having any kind of argument with ship is like a gunfight with an unarmed man. Same as the freeman were, they talk...talk....talk...yell and never listen to the facts.

He believes just in the holy world according to Rob, just ignore the idiot and let him get locked up again. Best place for him.

His folks were good people wonder waht happened to him.

Bob T
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Posted by Kyle L. Varnell (+3745) 12 years ago
You posts got me thinking about something else Rob.

You say this:

Yes, I was convicted of a Category "D" felony in July of 1988

and in your next post you say this:

I have already been ACQUITTED in a court of law

I'm confused. Either you were convicted, in which case you are a felon until your record is expunged, or you were acquitted in which case you seem to be just making noise. In my experience Rob a felony is serious business, regardless of its classification.

Again I'm not saying what you are saying is incorrect or anything. It's just that I'd like a little more clarification.
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4460) 12 years ago
f*ck these guys Rob
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Posted by Brian A. Reed (+6014) 12 years ago
Nut.
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Posted by Kyle L. Varnell (+3745) 12 years ago
Brian, where've you been?
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
I think you are right on 100%. And the mayor of course is enjoying his first time in his life $20,000 a year job......da,da,da.

Thanx.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Wendy Wilson: Very good point. However, my thinking is this( that is if you believe I am capable of intelligent thought).......I had just been persecuted for 10.5 months in Billings by the feds where everyone in southeatern Montana knew the feds tried and tried and tried and tried rilly rilly rilly rilly hard to put me in prison to serve their hign minded lunacy as an example.......and then I was acquitted......of a crime I did not commit !!!!!! Done deal.

I arrive home from jail on the 11th of June............in two months and one day......August 12th......Miles City ignoble mayor sends the MCPD to cite me for being a public nuisance. Of course I was immedieately HOT about more illegal government persecution!!!!!!

I had just been ACQUITTED by Ralph Dukart which has rilly rilly rilly pissed them all off 17 months previously!!!!!!!!!!

I thought I could TRUST and BELIEVE in the Constitution.

Just because some MCPD police cat tells someone they must do so and so.......is more bullpoop than just tyranny!!!!!!!!!

Cops have no authority to order citizens around like errant school kids. THIS IS A NATION OF LAWS and not of egomaniac mayor's whims !!!!!!!!!


Ok?

I would have responded to my friends' very decent...."friendly" criticisms............a long time ago.....a very long time ago.........but the mayor had to perseceute me first.................sooooooooooooo.........we have.....you people electing him....not me.........da,da,da.


OK?
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4460) 12 years ago
The Shipley house thing is like a Martha Stewart job - don't tell me that's even among the top 20 eyesores in MC. I can't really decipher the nonsense right now, but I find it hard to believe Joe Whalen would gives two squirts of piss about this nonsense, unless...

Joe, you been bought out?
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Buck, you are right. None of these whiny bitches could afford to buy my cluttered driveway. And, none of them could ever pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel.......so, I will retire from this website.......satisfied that the SMART people in Miles City are also satisfied this whole lawless affair was no big deal and we will all just go right on as each of us are free Americans. Thank you, Sir.
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Posted by Kyle L. Varnell (+3745) 12 years ago
None of these whiny bitches could afford to buy my cluttered driveway.

I think the correct word might be WANT not afford.
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Posted by ABE (+420) 12 years ago
"I will retire from this website"



Maybe?

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Posted by Bob L. (+5094) 12 years ago
Buck & Rob: You guys should get a room.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6165) 12 years ago
Rob, the Constitution doesn't give crap about your messy yard. Your neighbors do because they have to look at it every day. You just like the attention and exploit the Constitution, a venerable document, for your own megalomaniacal purposes. It's pathetic and frankly, unpatriotic.
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4460) 12 years ago
F*ck you, it's awesome (not you, Wendy - Bob L.)

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Posted by Bob L. (+5094) 12 years ago
Buck: No thanks, "Ship" would get jealous.
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Posted by Jody K (+106) 12 years ago
I don't know if Rob has really retired from this website but I would like him to post these photos of the 6 block radius of his home which are "specifically more cluttered" than his. I live within those 6 blocks and I can't think of that many, seeing how he now has additional proof.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Buck : Answering your question about Joe Whalem being sold out to someone? YES, he is. Absolutely so. He is not man enough to have ever asked me..........to come to his office in City Hall and say...."Rob, your residence situation upsets people, Would you please just attend to it?" Hell no. Being a mousy little jerk, he has to hide behind the skirts of several police officers whose very lives he now controls like Lord Fauntleroy. I even appreciated Joe when he operated the book store. I am a book worm. I own over 4,000 books (the vast majority of them were my wonderful mother's pride and joy when she taught at Custer). He and I used to visit about literature and such. But then he became the mayor and I became the Public Enemy #1 of the People.

Absolutely there are people who drive by my home on their way to the golf course. They don't like me or my stuff. So, instead of being DECENT and VALUABLE people like John Morford or Dennis Mullen and Jerry Doeden or Gene Riley......and just TELL ME their minor disgusts...........like the little mice that they are......they make anonymous telephone calls to the mayor....because they also like the heavy hand of the law binding other people who do not live exactly like they wish them to do.

And, because I couldn't care less about all this snafu ( WWII GI slang....."situation normal all f***ed up").............that also upsets alot of people who never can do anything except bitch and whine.

Buck. You know the truth. I know the truth. 75% of these other bitchers and whiners are in La-La Land.

"Ship"
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Bob T: I do not know who you are......and because you seem to be some gutless wonder...........I sincerely do not care. But I know a great deal about The Freemen. I hated and loathed their RADICAL....truly misguided GOOFY events. And when they threatened District Court Judge Ken Wilson ( who lived as VERY CLOSE FRIEND and next door neighbor to Ship and Mary Shipley and me for 27 years)like they did.........THAT rilly rilly rilly upset Mary Shipley and me.

OK? Whenever wimps like you bitch about me and the Shipley family in Miles City, get your facts at least straight.

REAL PEOPLE in Miles City know the truth. They know I never do anything criminal in the very first place. And they know and respect that I do MAKE REAL STANDS FOR MY RIGHTS and for yours.

Do you have 37 years in the U.S. Navy and Naval Reserve? Were you ever an FAA -certified air traffic controller, who, by Federal Law would be paid $122,725 a year if you were actively so employed?

I doubt this. You,like Whalen, probably have your highest-ever paid job.....$20,000 a year......and you are damned glad just to have that.

Bob T., this is not a bullpoop challenge. If you do not like me,at least be man enough to call me......234-2477...........say...."Shipley, this is Bob T. I do not like you. I am glad you are finally being FORCED by the heavy hand of the cops to clean up your pig sty."

OK?

If this requires more guts than you ever have...........then just shut up and let it go.

Period.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Bob L.: Who are you anyway? I doubt that you.....hiding behind some email handle do not even live in Miles City. If you think Buck and I ought to get a room..........much unlike you.......at least,Mouth, we each could afford one.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Wendy Wilson: I read your message. I am not upset. I do not agree. But, you have a right to engage......unlike 90% of these other milescity.com writers...........in INTELLIGENT discourse.

I do not need any notoriety. I do not do what I do to get a puffed head over any of it.........I make the stands that I do........BECAUSE I am a real American. I want to be like John Wayne, Ronald Reagan, Nathan Hale and Patrick Henry.

I come and go just as I damned well please......and always have.....ever since I was a sophomore in high school at Custer County High School.

I do respect you. You must admit I even was in some communication with you......wanting to praise you if you were somehow related to Ken Wilson,16th Court Judge.

But, you have failed in ****THE**** MOST IMPORTANT EVER decision in your entire life.........VERY PRECIOUS ONE AND ONLY HUMAN LIFETIME.............you have neglected to discover...........other than much enhanced personal relationships with Jesus Christ.............and Almighty Father GOD..............there is only one.........only one true success in a human life................
...............that is...............there is only this one............
............to have lived it......the way........
.........YOU wanted to.

I have lived for nearly 50 years as free as an eagle. I don't take any poop off of anyone. The only time I ever get in trouble is when some agency of government VIOLATES my Constitutional RIGHTS.........and jacks me around.

Other than that.........I do anything I ever please.

Only one........to live it the way you want to.

Life is not a dress rehearsal...........it is the ONE and ONLY true SINGLE event.

And none of us are going to get out of it alive anyway.........so what the hell?
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Posted by Bob L. (+5094) 12 years ago
Hey Ship:

I thought you retired from this web site?
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Wendy Wilson: Come on,Lady, be real. My neighbors do NOT have to look at my yard everyday in disgust. They simply.....do not have to look at it. I do not look at Gary and Karen Morken's really really neatly manicured yard. IT DOES NOT MATTER TO ME.

It is all ...mind over matter........if you do not mind.....it does not matter.

I *trust* in the persons of friends Gary and Karen Morken.....that they like me as I am..........they enjoy having one of the neatest and best manicured yards in Miles City........and I do TRULY TRULY like them for their being the friends and the REAL PEOPLE they are. It is TRUST......of each other.............as we each are children of GOD..........not just Miles City cops pissed off all the time for no good reason!!!!!!!!

Gary and Karen actually were interested in buying my parents' home at 5 South Merriam when they first moved to Miles City. They looked it over when they were shopping for a home. Then they bought their lovely home from the Mathisons who had bought it from the wonderful Gus and Helen Albert estate.........who were affectionately sorta like second parents to me when I was a little guy..........ok? Helen Albert's cat,Sylvester, was jeolous of my baby photo sitting on her piano when Gus and Helen lived in their apartment above the Boutelle's car dealership, and used to knock it off the piano whenever my Mom would take me with her to visit and coffee with Helen. OK? These are the wonderful things of life........not the insanity of being a public nuisance....OK with you?

Real issues of REAL importance as affecting the WONDERFUL given from GOD lives of REAL PEOPLE.

* * * * By the way, in light of REAL things of real importance in the REAL WORLD......I owned the only two ever known matched Miles City Coggshall saddles......Gus and Helen Albert bought in 1950 from the Miles City Saddlery........the ONLY matched pair of Miles City Coggshall saddles ever known to exist in the entire world.....OK?* * *

Gary and Karen Morken are wonderful lovely people just like the Mathisons and the Alberts before them. But I do NOT care about their yard !!!!!! Duh? I love and trust Gary and Karen Morken..........as I am supposed to do according to the Holy Bible..........I just do not give a damn about their lawn.....OK?

I used to actually enjoy........RILLY RILLY RILLY enjoy carrying my little ferret, "Goof", across Morken's yard every day to the golf course to let him run on the fairways and play in the sand traps.

There is a big old cottonwood tree next to Vern and Linda Erlenbusch's lovely big home and yard that has a natural hole in the base of it. Goof ever day loved to slither down into this hole and dig. It was a true daily ritual with he and I.

OK? I never asked Goof if he liked Morken's yard or Erlenbusch's yard. Because Goof DID NOT CARE !!!!!!

What little lovely fun GOOF enjoyed was.............****LIFE****.....being a ferret,running around on the golfcourse and eating and sleeping and breathing and LIVING......not bitching and whining because all the other bigger ferrets (people) did or did not mow their lawns according to some celestial mandate...........OK?
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Posted by Bob L. (+5094) 12 years ago
Hey Ship:

FWIW, my yard looks like crap as well...the former owner of my house would have a stroke if he came back from FLA and saw some weeds in the yard.

BTW, love the ferret story.

[This message has been edited by Bob L. (9/26/2009)]
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Jody K: Thank you for your decency, honesty and integrity. These are the same three qualities the lightweights of Miles City.com never possess. My photos as they are still are in the evidence file at the courthouse. If you like........you can call me. When I get them back from the 16th Court I will easily show them to you. No big deal. They did convince Honorable Ralph J. Dukart to acquit because they PROOVED there exist a great many more public nuisance locations near my home than just mine alone. The truth is.....and everybody knows this.....these other homes are not on 4th Street.........so golfers and passersby to not complain. Pure and simple logic.

OK?

"Ship"
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Hey, Bob L. If you wish me to retire from Miles City.com......because my intelligence far exceeds yours.........or any other reason.......tough poop. Your puny self cannot FORCE me to do anything. Just like the cops and the mayor...........you will have to resort to BREAKING THE LAW if you want to ever ever ever ever force me to do anything. Get my drift, Idiot?
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Posted by Bob L. (+5094) 12 years ago
You stated last night that you had retired from the web site. I guess you changed your mind.

Hey Ship, know why I'm better than you? Here are some reasons:

(1) I'm not a convicted felon
(2) I earn more money than you do
(3) I haven't inherited a dime from others
(4) My yard looks significantly nicer than yours
(5) I don't own a rodent as a pet
(6) I've never been in jail. Not even once! Looks like you're the law breaker!

Have a nice day!

[This message has been edited by Bob L. (9/26/2009)]
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Posted by Kyle L. Varnell (+3745) 12 years ago
So I guess according to Mr. Shipley the rest of us are just a bunch of idiots.
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Posted by Sharon Clarke (+74) 12 years ago
Apparently so Kyle......*sigh
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Posted by spacekace (+895) 12 years ago
...so apparently if you do not like someone's yard, the mayor should have nothing to do with it. Let's picket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by howdy (+4943) 12 years ago
Sounds like Narcissism florishes with Mr. Shipley...
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Posted by Septimius (+65) 12 years ago
Im a PC
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Bob L. : Since it is you who continues to hide behind your anonymity because you are a gutless wonder and are obviously quite full of yourself.........whatever you opine here in MilesCity.com is truly irrelevant as being the bleatings of an enslaved sheep. If you think you earn more or have more than I do,Coward and Bullpoop Captain Extraordinaire..........by all means,email me privately at [email protected] be above puking your big deal job and net worth on this website,ok?

Specifically, no one of any sound mind cares what I own or what I earn.........except loser failures such as yourself.

Email me....PRIVATELY you coward......and if you can't........then you lose this argument by default.

Duh?
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Posted by Bob L. (+5094) 12 years ago
You're mentally ill, Ship.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Kyle: No. You misunderstood this. Only "chicken Bob L." who will not come out from behind his possibly sick lesbian girlfriend's skirts ia an idiot.....ok? Rob
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Spacekace: If you are such a gutless wonder you cannot approach anyone......me or anyone in Miles City and just visit with me or any other human being person and JUST ASK and JUST STATE what is the TRUTH..........then, as has what has happened, you must seek out a nonperforming mayor and beg him to do your bidding for you,right?
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Howdy: None here,only a regular fellow who does not live in the lie.......that the IRS is a federal agency when it is not.....or that the Miles City police have legal jurisdiction upon mine or any other city resident's property SANS A LAWFULLY OBTAINED SEARCH WARRANT........OK?
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Spacekace: If any person does not like some other person's ridiculously unimportant yard.....that seems to ABSOLUTELY POSSESS you.......they should merely visit with the person who is providing the displeasure. There is NO SENSE in asking the mayor.....a good one or a bad one........or pestering the City Council.....with such goofy assinine mindless complaints.

Nobody cares. If your little feelings are hurt over a lawn..........something as puny and insignificant as a lawn.........you MUST seek mental health professionals immediately...........because no one cares.

My case.......THERE HAVE BEEN NO SIGNED COMPLAINTS as per the process of the law........only mouthy chickenpoop losers bitching and whining...........do you see the difference in the two?

I couldn't care less if YOUR lawn was full of alligators and buzzworms..........I absolutely cannot and will not ever CARE about your lawn...........hello? Duh?
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Bob L. : Letter from Bob L to Denver Post
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Greetings, I am hot poop. I live in Denver and whenever I deplane in Sacremento or New Orleans people in general think I am hot poop.
I mow my lawn three times a week because it causes me an orgasm and I think lawns and orgasms are neat. Please print this in your Letters to the Editor section so my mentally retarded girlfriend and my lesbian mistress she allows me to have can read and enjoy how much of a Hot Poop I am.
Sincerely,
Bob L.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Bob L. : Addendum to Letter to Denver Post. Please also include that I have a job.......that is spelled J ust O ver B roke.
I want everyone to know I bust my ass for the money I receive from some other person because I cannot own or operate my own business etcetera. Thank you, Bob L.
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Posted by Sharon Clarke (+74) 12 years ago
Wow......what a thread...that's all I can say. sheesh
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6165) 12 years ago
Rob,

Lay off the meth, ok?
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Posted by Bob L. (+5094) 12 years ago
Ship:

You really are mentally ill.

Feel free to drop me a line at [email protected]

Have a nice day!
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Posted by ABE (+420) 12 years ago
"MilesCity Oddity"

Ground Control to Major Rob
Ground Control to Major Rob
Take your protein pills
and put your helmet on

Ground Control to Major Rob
Commencing countdown,
engines on
Check ignition
and may God's love be with you....

Just kidding Rob..next time I see you I'll introduce myself again.
Give'em hell..
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Posted by ike eichler (+1226) 12 years ago
Robbie,
How many times must I point out to you, that the more you post, it becomes like blood in the water, and turns into a frenzied shark attack. Use your head, water duz roll off a duck's back. Ike
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Wendy Wilson: Obviously you are twisted. I am the LOW LIFE public nuisance........born and raised here....the sailor cowboy with 37 years in the Navy...............just the plain ordinary guy...........but you can bet your sweet ass......the recently excommunicated Miles City HOTSHOT fireman who likes meth rilly rilly rilly big time...........his yard is mowed and everything is sweet so no one suspects anything he does......right?

Its your call,Baby, you want City of Miles City overpaid employees in the drug business...........where the poop eventually gets to small children.........or you want plain ordinary CITIZENS who know the Constitution upside down and backwards.........just asking that the despotic mayor and egomaniac cops leave him alone?
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Posted by Matt - Schmitz (+166) 12 years ago
I'm rilly rilly rilly glad my mother never insisted that I learn to knit. Because I would be jammin those knittin needles rilly rilly rilly deep into my skull right now.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Wendy Wilson: Let me fill you in on a little GENERAL INFORMATION that is out there in the real world,OK?

When I was in jail in Basin,Wyoming and Billings,Montana (each are used as Federal Holding Facilities).......I had to live with big time meth dealers and users......like do you understand an Arizona fellow many years younger than me........who had sold millions and millions and millions of dollars of the poop? He had sold more meth in Montana and five other northwestern states in seven years than my dad had sold gasoline and diesel fuel in his entire lifetime and my dad's first year in the Old Carter Oil Company was 1945 and his first year in the *Million Gallon Club* was 1959.......and back in the late 50's and 60s my dad was oftentimes Doc Balsam's Northern Tank Line biggest customer. And back then my dad had a running 11 year lawsuit against EXXON USA because they had breeched their contract when Oftedal was growing and got big enough to buy more than the Beacon from the Billings refinery and at the same rack price. Is this over your head?

The point being.....Beacon Carter Service used to be a big deal in southeastern Montana.....until it was exceeded by Oftedal and John Prince. But the Beacon and Oftedal and Prince were all DECADES in the making. Their entire familes engaged in their growth and success for years and years and years.

The drug dealer I mention passed all of these good companies here mentioned.......in SEVEN YEARS !!!!!!!! Yes, in quiet "High, Wide and Handsome Montana"....the Big Sky country where this poop is not supposed to be.

If you might have the mentality to perceive or conceptualize this.......$50,000, $60,000 or $80,000 of the poop every month for several years (this is the NET-NET profit)........then ease on over to CHOMOS.....child molesters....men who have raped 9 year old girls........4 year old girls.......and even a 13 month old girl.......and used a video camera to show her every scream and every excrutiatating in pain twist of her little body while the darling little baby screamed her guts out because she had only been on the planet for 400 days!!!!!!!!!!!!

Would you like to be forced to live in close proximity with NON-HUMAN BEINGS like this?

And be FORCED to live with them because the jails in America are full........and over HALF.....over 50% of all this "Classic American Prison Population"......is due to zealous prosecution for........VICTIMLESS CRIMES !!!!!!!!!

Relevant question about my dumb ass making the front page of the Miles City Star as being a public nuisance..........WHO are the VICTIMS of this gross, terrible, extraordinary, filthy, slimy, absolutely intolerable crime? The phony pissants who call Joe Whalen and bitch yet do not have guts nor mentality enough to let go of their despicable anonymity.

Wendy,please ease back. Do not ever reference me in any way connected with drugs or meth especially.......Greg Haydal is a very dear friend of mine. Don't ever put my name in the same sentence with any drug discussion whatsoever.

And furthermore know and appreciate........the highest ranking legal officer in the State of Montana.......the Most Honorable Chief Federal Judge Richard F. Cebull..........acquitted me of that crime I did not commit after the feds had me in jail 315 days.......ILLEGALLY.......and Cebull sent the meth dealer for the MAXIMUM in the Federal Sentencing Guidelines.......280 months......23 years and 4 months..........which in no way even starts to pay for the several hundred twisted minds in these six northwestern states of America..........get my drift?

Please, from here on out don't ever slur my name that my opinions about tyranny and despotism and government waste,abuse and sloth and corruption of small town American government is in any way because I ever used METH.

I hate government because I know the truth, not ever because I like or ever used meth.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Best Friend Ike: You are right, Sir, as usual. You always were. Hell, you always are. I just hold a tight fear inside,deep inside, that the ordeal in jail having to live with those true criminals......hell the murderers were not at all hard to deal with......it was the meth dealers and the needle dopers and the chomos that may have gotten to me.
Sorry. I felt compelled to tell Wendy Wilson about that baby raping atrocity........just because 18 months later..........in my own good life......in my own quiet times as a Miles City guy........it sickens me that I had to go through all that poop.

And then to have to be persecuted by the highminded lunacy of the Jeff Nobles and Joe Whalens that creep around like so many Front Covers of Aqualung.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5094) 12 years ago
Pay your taxes, kids.
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Posted by spacekace (+895) 12 years ago
CHIMO. and i'll bet they paid taxes on the money made off meth...
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4460) 12 years ago
No, it's chomo.
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Posted by K.Duffy (+1807) 12 years ago
Rob, I think you live to stir people up! Why else would you have moved into and ravaged the beautiful home of your greatly admired Mother, sell it, then move into an equally visible and "Jonesy" neighborhood..only to do the same thing I no longer have a personal beef with you ~ yes, many years ago I did ~ but what I'm wondering now, is why on earth you'd even want to live within city limits when you could be somewhere like Moon Creek and do whatever you want, without ruffling anyone's feathers?
I personally wouldn't want to live anywhere near the golf course, just because of the "social pressures", but I do thoroughly enjoy walking or biking there to admire all the hard work people put into their yards.
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Posted by Bob L. (+5094) 12 years ago
in my own quiet times as a Miles City guy........it sickens me that I had to go through all that poop.

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Ship:

I'm sorry that you had to be somebody's bitch in prison.

It has to be both physically and emotionally disturbing to be violated.

I guess that explains why you now strike out at others.

I forgive you.

You should pay your taxes to the IRS in a timely manner.

[This message has been edited by Bob L. (9/27/2009)]
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
K. Duffy: You are mistaken. I do not stir people up. The general populace makes my ass tired. I could not care less. I surely do not care about what they like, and, surely do not care about what they don't like. I absolutely could not give a damn less. Why do you think there is "pressure" living here near the golf course? The people who like me, like me. No big deal. And the ones who don't.....them nor their abject stupidity about my Constitutional Rights cannot bother me in any way. Not ever in the least; absolutely not at all. I have hide like a walrus. You people who pay your taxes and allow Joe Whalen and the cops to break the law the way they do all the time and the way they did with me is a moronic benevolent despotism relationship. They piss away $3,000 or $4,000 prosecuting me and try to embarass me........this is insane........yet YOU PEOPLE are forced to pay for all of it.........that it in some assinine way is........"criminal justice". Justice is not achieved here. That is purely a bullpoop misconception. If it were not for Y O U R taxpayer dollars......none of these creeps.........Whalen, Noble, Prell......could ever prosecute nor persecute anyone or anything.
None of these three stooges has any brains, and, contritely so, it is a cinch that none of the three ever have any money of their own. They all three are losers,except that Prell isn't smart enough to tell the other two to kiss his ass when they *order* him to go and break the law like his goofy illegal warrant-less search of my residence. This is all there is to it. An immoral lawyer and a business failure mayor who abuse the personal sovereignty of a Miles City cop ordering him to BREAK THE LAW.
Plain and simple. Bugsy Whalen and Noble have a vendetta against me.............but I do't even pay good attention.............because I can buy or sell either of them........and...........I just do not give a damn about either one of them.

My family owned three good ranches. They were over 11,000 acres. I could live on Moon Creek and have even made an offer to buy one of the Moon Creek lots that was carved out of the Dick Chezum ranch years ago. It is no big deal. I had a 160 acre Sun Dial Ranchette carved out of the old Bonine Ranch. I live where I live because I can and I do not have to please anyone anyway...so I don't and everything is just A-OK with me.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Bob L. : You want to be an antagonist. Big deal. I did not pay *my* unconstitutional NOT PROVIDED FOR IN THE LAW income taxes for 31 years. In that time I saved myself over $500,000. They got hot. They broke the law in many many instances to get me into jail and jack me around. They busted their ass to get me into prison for 2 to 5 years but their illegal little snafu didn't work. So? It is over. The $99,000 they squeezed me for is deducted from the REALITY of the over half a million dollars in REAL CASH MONEY savings........so......easily enough I am still a net $400,000 winner ahead of them. Duh?
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Bob L. : Who you are and how important your dumb ass thinks you are is nothing to me. I know you hide behind an alias or retain your anonymity because you are as gutless as you are brainnless. You might live in Kansas for all I know. I simply do not care. You paying your illegally devised income taxes befits your brainless mentality. Please, by all means, keep doing it.
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Posted by Kyle L. Varnell (+3745) 12 years ago
I did not pay *my* unconstitutional NOT PROVIDED FOR IN THE LAW income taxes for 31 years

You might want to check you facts there Rob:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ted_States

The first Federal income tax was imposed (under Article I, section 8, clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution) during the Civil War, then again in the 1890s, and again after the Sixteenth Amendment was ratified in 1913

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...nstitution

So I guess if you believe in the Constitution as a living breathing document as you have said you do then you might realize that Amendments are considered to be part of the Constitution and therefore LEGAL.

[This message has been edited by Kyle L. Varnell (9/27/2009)]
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Posted by Steve Craddock (+2743) 12 years ago
Hey there, Rob.
I haven't heard from you in a while. Just wanted to say "hi" and encourage you to listen to your good friend Ike. He's right, you know.
Take care. Your friend, Crapduck
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Kyle Varnell: You are wrong, Sir. Your *misconception* is the whole problem. I have been 35 years reading and studying nearly everything about the Income Tax. It is all illegal. I do not know if you even live in Miles City. It does not matter. You, yes YOU are the one whose "facts" are crooked and not straight.
A. Lincoln started the income tax in the era of the Civil War. He believed tying the USA back together was more important that violating the U.S. Constitution which does not allow such fiscal atrocity. And, when the Civil War was over and Lincoln was in Heaven......the income tax was repealed.

B. In 1895 it was *foisted* upon America once again by the eastern bankers of the USA and their big banker pals in Europe and London, the International Banking Cartel. It was *ruled* UNconstitutional by none other than the Supreme Court.

C. During the summertimes of 1907 through 1913 on Jekyll Island, Georgia the eastern banking group effected and galvanized the entire plan of the Federal Reserve Bank............that to this day is....NOT "federal"........does not have any banking reserves.....and is NOT a chartered bank in the very first place.

* * * * It is all a facade......a charade......it was all created by laws that NEVER WERE * ** * *

D. The U.S. Constitution has never provided for the Federal Reserve. The U. S. Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land by many repeated rulings of the Supreme Court.

E. One of the BIGGEST ACHIEVED LIES is that the 16th Amendment to the Constitution which authorizes the creation of the Federal Reserve............to this day......in 96 years this December.......has NEVER BEEN ratified BY LAW by the plurality (75%) of the State legislatures.....(75% of 48 states = = 36 needed).

The 16th Amendment is truly...."The Law That Never Was".

Do the very best thing you could ever do right now.

1. Google to.....News With Views......join for FREE this American Patriot newsletter society.

2. Google Devvy Kidd.........who has replied to no fewer than 15 emails from me in the last 4 years.***Even email Frosty Wooldridge who lives only 500 miles away in Denver. Frosty well knows Rob Shipley.....ask him.*****

3. Read entirely ALL of her work on Bill Benson, former Billings,Montana national IRS hero RED BECKMAN, attorneys Jeff Dickstein and Bob Bernhoff and Ed Snook, IRS agents Sherry Peel Jackson and Joe Banister, "We The People" director Bob Shulz .

UNDERSTAND THAT Billings, Montana Red Beckman is the only living American right now who has ever taken his IRS case all the way to the U. S. Supreme Court (in 1996)......which they will never hear......because.......THEY CANNOT........they are OWNED by the 12 member International Banking Cartel.......the Rothschilds, the Mellons, the Bildenbergers, the Rockefellers and the others who are the IBC and the TLC and the CFR.

ON THE OTHER HAND..........*corporate income tax* has been coursed through the Due Process of Law.......meaning the U. S. Congress......and is therefore legal. Not ever the private or personal income tax. There exists not one single lonesome paragraph in the NEVER YET CORRUPTED Congressional Record that specifies there ever has been a single......not one.......piece of legislation from the CONGRESS that provides for the IRS and Income Tax.

It has never happened. The Japs bombed Pearl Harbor and Hitler committed suicide, and, Mount St. Helen's blew her top off............but the Income Tax was never put through the legal process of the U. S. Congress.

Period. Done deal.

The American People and the entire world have been LIED to for 96 years.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Steve : TY for your approval. Ike Eichler is a SUPER RIGHT ON AMERICAN. Kyle Varnell is merely *misguided* because his grandparents and his parents.........like mine of each era.....and like himself, you and me has BEEN LIED TO by the federal government.

"Ship"
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Kyle: Please act MORE AN ADULT. Please Google any of the tens of thousands of internet websites OTHER THAN merely Wikipedia. Come on,Fella, be real,ok? Google....."Creature From Jekyll Island".....Give Me Liberty.....Bill Benson......Ed and Elaine Brown.....Madison, Wisconsin attorneys.....Bob Bernhoft and Jeff Dickstein.........who in 2005 were considering taking the Shipley v IRS case here in Montana !!!!!!!!!!!!! Seek out Ed Snook......U.S. Observer.......NEWS WITH VIEWS....Devvy Kidd.......
Do your homework. YOUR ACTUALLY.....*not doing your homework*......is the only thing that SECURES the entire fraud of the income tax and the IRS ! ! ! ! The truth about the illegal and fraudulent creation of both stands before you on the internet.......as tall as proud as any of the Rocky Mountains.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
To Buck Showalter and Ike Eichler: We three know this public nuisance snafu will be over with before the month of October is history. Joe Whalen and the City wasting $4,000 to snap me for $100 is not at all a good return on their money. But, ofcourse, it is not *their* money in the first place that they choose to waste as they do. It is all because they choose to be EGOMANIACS and never REASONABLE people.

Like Obama Banana or whatever Barry Sotero's real name and Birth Certificate state that he is.............his first presidency is his last......and Whalen's first drugtripping jaunt through and over Miles City as mayor is also his last.

Even though Kevin Krausz and I have had our differences over the years, that, in and of itself, does not mean if he had once.....just one time......called me.....stopped me in traffic......or even visited with me any of the many times I have seen him at the MCPD offices......just TALK TO ME IN PLAIN ENGLISH as one human being to another.........................none..........absolutely NONE of this would have ever gotten started or elongated ......not at all.

But they chose to waste taxpayer money and BREAK several LAWS to..."get me"..........sooooooo......big deal.

End of story.

****A whitetail doe and fawn were just on my front lawn enjoying the voluntary alfalfa as they do several times each summer. I am sure they are there many times I do not discover them. Foxy little rascals they are. My voluntary alfalfa is as natural as the golf course greens are not. I KNOW it is alfalfa......Sgt. Prell and Joe Whalen and Jeff Noble all stupidly think it is just weeds*******
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Posted by Kyle L. Varnell (+3745) 12 years ago
I stand corrected.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6165) 12 years ago
or you want plain ordinary CITIZENS who know the Constitution upside down and backwards.........

Sure, Rob. Do you know any?
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Posted by K. D. (+362) 12 years ago
Rob, where would you be in in life if it wasn't for your mom and dad's money?

And, for curiousity sake, did your parents pay taxes?

[This message has been edited by K. D. (9/28/2009)]
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Posted by K.Duffy (+1807) 12 years ago
Ohhhhhh you did it NOW, K.D.
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Posted by K. D. (+362) 12 years ago
"Ohhhhhh you did it NOW, K.D."

I was going to ask him to tell us a heroic "37 years in the navy" type of adventure story about being tied to a tree, and narrowly escaping with his life; all to report it to the very law enforcement he despises. But, I wanted to save that for another day, oh well.

So Rob, why did they tie you to a tree?

[This message has been edited by K. D. (9/28/2009)]
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Posted by Brian A. Reed (+6014) 12 years ago
K.D. - Lemme guess, you have recently received a private email from Mr. Shipley that read something like this: "Mouthy c**ksucker - f**k off you stupid c**t. Leave me a alone and die."

Am I close?
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Posted by ike eichler (+1226) 12 years ago
Robbie,
PLEASE take my advise and stop this now. Tilting at Windmills ala Don Quixote will get you the same result. There is an old saying, "You can't Fight City Hall", that is pretty true. You can not reason with many on MC.com either, as all they do is laugh at you and egg you on to make you look foolish. Let that sink in, they have had their fun so PLEASE stop and move on. You say you have rhino hide, so why let someone get under it??? Ike
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Posted by Lorin Dixson (+596) 12 years ago
Please don't stop Rob. Much too entertaining.
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Posted by JCF (+393) 12 years ago
One cannot stop reading Ship's comments. It would be like asking a person not to watch a car wreck - one simply cannot help it. Somewhere in the human psyche we have a need to watch someone self destructing. And Ship does it for us on a daily "virtual" basis here at MC.com.
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Posted by Brian A. Reed (+6014) 12 years ago
The 'L' is for loquacious.
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Posted by Steve Craddock (+2743) 12 years ago
The "car wreck" analogy doesn't fit this situation. This is more akin to where a lion, monkey or other animal is in a small cage and passersby pick up a stick to cruelly prod the poor thing in the hopes of antagonizing a response. Children can be excused for such immature behavior - adults not so much.

Threads like this one are impossible to defend when I encounter people who say MilesCity.com is a bad thing. Several people I consider friends and admire in all other respects have engaged in taunting Rob. C'mon folks - you're above that.
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Posted by Brian A. Reed (+6014) 12 years ago
What do you have against lions, monkeys and other animals, Steve? Seriously, what did they ever do to you?

The 'L' is for loquacious.

The 'L is for lion
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Posted by Steve Craddock (+2743) 12 years ago
Make fun of it as needed, Brian ol' buddy, but on this issue I'm serious as a hog on ice.

Btw: What are you doing up at this hour?
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Posted by JCF (+393) 12 years ago
Crapduck, I like your analogy, except that it is off by 180 degrees. Shipley may be the monkey in the cage, but he is the one poking outwards with the stick, or as the case may be, flinging excrement, which is exactly like a monkey (no analogy required).
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6165) 12 years ago
Steve,

Thank you for the smack upside my head. You are absolutely right. Mr. Shipley does not deserve the assault that we give him. I would not make fun of someone in a wheelchair or someone with a missing limb. I am ashamed.
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Posted by Brian A. Reed (+6014) 12 years ago
Thank you for the smack upside my head. You are absolutely right. Mr. Shipley does not deserve the assault that we give him. I would not make fun of someone in a wheelchair or someone with a missing limb. I am ashamed.

What if the person had been relegated to the wheelchair as a result of his own intoxicated driving? Or if he was missing a limb because he purposefully climbed into the polar bear exhibit at the zoo?

Mr. Shipley actively picks and chooses his spots. He'll be perfectly well-mannered in front of a judge but a complete ass to anyone who disagrees with him on MC.com. (http://billingsgazette.co...3827f.html) He knows the difference between right and wrong ... when it suits him. Because of this, I have far less compassion for our resident feces-flinging monkey than I would have for someone else.
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Posted by howdy (+4943) 12 years ago
After reading that article that Brian posted, I agree that Mr. Shipley plays to his audience at least when in court and shows geniune remorse unlike his demeanor here on MC.com...what a difference!!!!
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Posted by JCF (+393) 12 years ago
Seems to me, having just read the statements Ship made above about how prooud he is of not paying his taxes, in light of the article posted by Brian, that Ship basically lied to the judge to get his case dismissed. He knows exactly what he is doing regarding his tax "problem."
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4460) 12 years ago
Ted Bundy had the same ability - he wasn't crazy at all.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6165) 12 years ago
Ted Bundy had what's called a borderline personality disorder. Sociopathy is a type of this disorder as is narcissism, I think. BPD can arise from organic brain injury such as fetal alcohol syndrome. It does allow the person to have some sense of right and wrong but they think the rules don't apply to them. They can conform when they want or need to but not out of empathy or any moral realization.
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4460) 12 years ago
Do you know much about Mr. Shipley?
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
K.D. : If it wasn't for my family modest money I'd probably be a loser like you. Not that you'd understand it, but yes, they paid way over $2,000,000 in taxes.And you and your family? Perhaps $16,000 in their entire lifetimes....what is the point?
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Steve Craddock: Brian A. Reed is a fine fellow. The A. stands for asshole however. No big deal among members of the inteligentsia as he is.
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Posted by Steve Craddock (+2743) 12 years ago
JCF says: Crapduck, I like your analogy, except that it is off by 180 degrees. Shipley may be the monkey in the cage, but he is the one poking outwards with the stick, or as the case may be, flinging excrement, which is exactly like a monkey (no analogy required).

Ok, JCF, let me work with your version of the analogy.

If the monkey is poking at people passing by with a stick, then intelligent and mature humans will observe what is happening, have some degree of compassion for the unhappy or unfortunate monkey, and move along so as to not provoke the monkey further. And if they do that, then only idiots will be left at the cage poking and provoking the monkey. Right?

Ah, I see! You're analogy does fit better.
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Posted by Steve Craddock (+2743) 12 years ago
Rob - Brian A. Reed is a fine fellow and I count him as a friend, just as you count Ike among your friends. AND - I'm hoping Brian takes my advice, just as Ike is hoping you take his. Friends can be very helpful, but only if you let them. Steve
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Posted by Bob L. (+5094) 12 years ago
Come on, people.

Mr. Shipley doesn't want your pity.


Quantum Financial Systems!? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

[This message has been edited by Bob L. (9/28/2009)]
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Posted by Kacey (+3159) 12 years ago
From the Star's online edition:

Local found guilty of public nuisance
By Elaine Forman
Robert Barlow Shipley failed to show up at a non-jury trial at the 16th Judicial District Court Monday.
He was found guilty of public nuisance, a misdemeanor, by Judge Gary Day and sentenced Monday.
The charge stemmed from a complaint received Aug. 12, 2008 about the condition of Shipley's home at 603 S. Fourth St.
Deputy City Attorney Jeff Noble said Miles City Police Sgt. Casey Prell photographed the property and gave Shipley written notice to clean up the property in 10 days. Prell gave Shipley 14 days, then took additional photos and cited Shipley because "little or nothing had been done," Noble said.
Shipley pled not guilty and a bench trial was held in City Court, where Shipley was found guilty by Judge Ralph Dukart.
In early 2009 Shipley filed an appeal, so the case was moved to district court and the trial date was set months ago, Noble said.
Shipley has been representing himself.
According to the Judgement and Sentencing Order, signed by Day, Shipley was fined $500 (no surcharges) and must pay it within 30 days. He was also sentenced to 6 months in jail, which was suspended as long as Shipley meets the following conditions:
- Correct the following violations within 90 days: unregistered and inoperative motor vehicles must be removed; excessively tall grass and weeds must be mowed and removed from the property; junk, trash, refuse and scrap building materials must be removed; all unsecured refrigerators stored outside must be secured and made safe or removed; all other junk at the residence that can be viewed by the public from the adjacent streets must be removed from public view to clean the property and bring it into compliance with city ordinance.
- Make significant, initial efforts toward bringing his property into compliance by 5 p.m. Oct. 1. Failure to do so may serve as grounds for revoking his suspended sentence.
In the sentencing order, Day also wrote the reason for this judgement was:
- Shipley's residence constituted as a public nuisance on Aug. 26, 2008.
- The condition of his residence affected "a large number of people" living nearby or traveling past the property.
- Shipley filed for the appeal to bring this case to trial.
- He "attempted to stall the correction of this property" for more than a year.
- "Reasonable minds could not differ regarding the condition of said property."
- The city's evidence and testimony of witnesses "were overwhelming."
This is just one of the public nuisance cases currently in the local courts, Noble noted.
The city has been stepping up efforts in recent years to address public nuisance complaints.
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4460) 12 years ago
It's such BS, though - a large number of people were affected? Emotional distress, what the hell?
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Posted by Bob L. (+5094) 12 years ago
"He who is his own lawyer has a fool for a client"

Pay your taxes

Show up for your trial. It increases one's chances, unless you're also the lawyer.
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Posted by howdy (+4943) 12 years ago
whats the difference between emotional distress in this case of looking at the messy yard and the state of mind the judge found Shipley to be in for his court trial a year before...from the link posted by Brian earlier:

Cebull said there was reasonable doubt whether Shipley specifically intended to communicate a threat to the IRS officer. The judge also found that Shipley was suffering from a diminished mental capacity at the time of the incident.
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Posted by Brian A. Reed (+6014) 12 years ago
The 'L' stands for limited.
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Posted by KELLY BABCOCK (+185) 12 years ago
How embarrassing!
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Bob L. : For once you are right. I do not want pity. I do not want some goofy city of Miles City job. I don't want anything to do with Miles City. Only want to be left alone. Miles City is dead and very very very much unlike my father and mother before me....I do not even care. They were pillars of this community. They kept 40 people employed for over 40 years. They made a sizeable donation to the building of the Centra for MCC. Interstate Enco in May of 1964 (where Town Pump now is) was the VERY VERY FIRST business built out on what is now appropriately Miles City's Strip. Mary Shipley was one of the stanuchest founders of The Barn Players. She also was involved in the Waterworks Art Center. R. D. Shipley was even involved in the Miles City Sales Yards organization in 1949 or 1950.
When a Fish and Game Commissioner from 1952 to 1960 it was he who succeeded in the Regional Office of Fish and Game, now the storage building next to the Range Riders. My dad was big in getting the Fish Hatchery built here and naming it after Rudy Branum. People who know anything know.....actually know....Miles City suffers because we are fresh out of builders........Theresa and L.P. Anderson, Bob and Alberta Smith, Ship and Mary Shipley, the Bill Nefsys, and the Wes Munsells, and Chris and Rose Grenz and many others.
Now, now that I am Public Enemy Number One.....in my own always loved home town.......if it took a quarter.....just a measely 25 cents......to stop a 1,000 year flood or revitalized communism taking over everything in Miles City...........I would never donate a penny.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Kacey: What is your point? The editor of The Star has agreed to allow me to write a rebuttal. All that was on the front page is NOT THE WHOLE TRUTH. There exists several elements where actual LAWS were twisted by the mayor and the police; and, as a law school educated attorney.......of whom the BAR Association of Montana EXPECTS to know the law........Jeff Noble did NOT did NOT do everything correct. Always remember, FIRST and FOREMOST, because the mayor went insane........I had already been once acquitted of this very same....very minor......very vague......stupid subject of small town America tyranny and despotism.

Now it is Rob Shipley in Miles City smashed like a bug on a windshield..........but sooner than any of us ever want.....it will be United Nation Police confiscating guns and gold.

Don't then say I didn't tell you so.
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Posted by Steve Craddock (+2743) 12 years ago
Bob L: Actually, you are mistaken. I fully understand that nobody wants to be pitied. I simply think that those who are advocating that Rob act responsibly and "do the right thing" should do so themselves and refrain from engaging in this argument.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Mr. Showalter : Sir, you are EXACTLY as SPECIFIED IN THE LAW correct. The section of Montana State Law that defines Public Nuisance states clearly in English......." an entire community"...."an entire neighborhood"....or...."a considerable number of the community". The law provides there must be REAL injury or probability thereof.......toxicity, noxious weeds,animal excrement,spoiled vegetation,foul water entrapment,loud noise, vexacious events.........not just small minded lunatics strolling by not liking some appearance. IF ANYONE....IF ANYONE....who rilly rilly rilly rilly wants to KNOW the truth.......take a mere 5 minutes.....just 5 minutes. Google to Montana Code Annotated 2009.....45-7-401. Official Misconduct. Then ask yourselves these simple abusing American Constitutional Rights questions:
1. Did Joe Whalen tell the MCPD to FIRST get a Search Warrant......that is REQUIRED by LAW? (And, is so so so so easy to obtain)
2. Did Joe Whalen furnish to the courts any SIGNED COMPLAINTS that are the letter of the law?
3. Did Joe Whalen ever one time.............easily....merely.....call Rob Shipley......and.....like would have any of several previous Miles City mayors........simply......asked me to attend to this minor affair?
4. Does Joe Whalen already have Miles City in deep do-do over the DEQ power he has already abused which will surely......absolutely result in yet another Miles City administration lawsuit?
5. Does Joe Whalen actually O W N anything in Miles City?
6. Has Joe Whalen every done anything?
7. Has Joe Whalen ever even tried to NOT smear his California ignorance around Miles City?
8. Are you people going to reelect Joe again so he can keep having the police make warrantless searches of your property.....and keep inviting Hardin business to Miles City......never being cognizant of the terrbile suffering of Miles City and the Ethchemendy family of years ago?
9. Do you think Joe is not going to be sued for the.....MANY..... blatant violations of MCA 2009 #45-7-401?
10. Think I am not going to continue trying to get Noble disbarred by the Montana BAR and Judicial Standards Counsel in Helena?

Email me here at home your.........real......replies. Either pro or con.

[email protected] Thank you......"Ship"
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Posted by Bob L. (+5094) 12 years ago
Steve:

OK. You got me. This is my last post in this thread.

[This message has been edited by Bob L. (9/29/2009)]
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Posted by Matt - Schmitz (+166) 12 years ago
I think "real injury" would include your neighbors trying to sell their home, and having no chance while being located next to a dump. I believe that their property values certainly suffer while you refuse to perform even the most basic property maintenance.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Bob L.: Once again. Judge Day was DISQUALIFIED ! ! ! !! In the State Laws of Montana......when a District Judge receives proper notice of his disqualification from either a plaintiff or a defendant he is to......."proceed NO FURTHER". This is EXACTLY and PRECISELY what the law reads. My error was.....I trusted in the two words "NO FURTHER"......thinking and hoping Gary Day would easily just step aside. If he had, here is what happens. The case is remanded to the Montana Supreme Court. The Supreme Court will send it to the other 16th Judicial Court Judge Joe Hegel in Forsyth. NO BIG DEAL. I thought that Gary Day was very possibly not cool with the long, overdone, convoluted, twisted......no search warrant issue...case. I thought he might like to be done with it......because it is so ludicrous, so mundane, so very very much..."Joe Whalen ignorance of the law". KNOW THIS. Gary Day and Rob Shipley like and appreciate each other. This is the United States of America......not some Soviet Russian gulag......next time any of you happen to walk by Gary Day at Albertson's or in Wal Mart or at any of Miles City's fine dining establishments.......just ask him. OK? I thought he would step aside......easily.......he chose not to. THAT IS HIS AUTHORITY AS A DISTRICT JUDGE. That specifies one of the many accumualting reasons why Gary Day will go down in history of southeastern Montana as having been the VERY FINEST District Court Judge who ever properly sat in the 16th Court. He well knows the law. He is not a mere bean counter. I wanted a three day trial to cross examine Joe Whalen and Sgt Prell and DIG UP the ****truth***** of why they each broke Montana State Law and did as they did; double jeopardy, res judicata, legal estoppel.......warrantless search.....all of it. I now know better. Very very good close friend and EXCELLENT ATTORNEY Terry Hanson has taught me since.........Gary Day was not going to allow a three day trial over anything as ridiculous as a $100 fine and Public Nuisance. His court has REAL issues and REAL crimes to deal with.....365 days a year !!!!!!! He is a REAL judge; public nuisance is a VAGUE section of law. No one cares.No one is troubled.There is no evidence of anyone EVER sustaining REAL injury. It will all go away easily............soon.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Mr. Craddock: Sir, you are again RIGHT ON !!!!! If there were anyone of this website who actually DONATED tens of thousands of dollars to this community, and often; or actually owned and operated any really truly big Miles City businesses; or, actually KNEW anything about the Big Picture.....then, they would be accored respect. Then their opinions would be valid. Sans the qualifications listed above...........nobody gives a damn what they like, nor, absolutely what they do not like.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Matt Schmitz: Have you been too long in the mushrooms? Where do you gain your intellect? The former John Uden home across the street from my dump, 602 South 4th, recently was a REPO because one of the owners embezzled $30,xxx from the local kid's hockey association. Hello? Does such an assinine event MORE EFFECT Miles City than my being a fellow who does not do lawns? Duh? Did Millhollin's losing $100,000 before the bank took back the sadly overpriced $317,000 two bedroom home on Mississippi between Craig and Deann Miller and Mr. and Mrs. Brent Certain not affect more than my alfalfa? It too was for a time a REPO !!!!!! Hello? Duh? My home was built by Oakland. Same top shelf contractor who built the Etchemendy triplex which each ACTUALLY DID SELL for $230,000. If you are going to retrieve a dead fly from the sugar bowl, please, first remove your boxing gloves, OK? Would you like it better if I had been recently busted for meth?
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Matt Schmitz: Contrary to what your twisted mind may relate, the Duane Mathisons DID NOT move away from me here by the entrance to the golf course for any fear of my ever becoming a public nuisance. They moved out onto the Broadus Highway to build a fine long home and enjoy OUT-OF-CITY freedom from Miles City bullpoop restrictions.....and because they very assuredly made a good profit on their former Gus and Helen Albert home,OK? If there exist any good people within a five block radius of me that my home ACTUALLY is affecting the sale of their home..........please......as a public service......here LIST these people's names and recent voiced opinions..........fair enough?
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Posted by Matt - Schmitz (+166) 12 years ago
It makes perfect sense to any clear thinking person, that a home near your dump will suffer in it's value. You can spin it any way you like, but the truth, that you seem to be hell bent on twistng here, is that your unwillingness to play by the rules of decent society certainly could be causing your neighbors financial loss.
I know the Mathison family, but have no actual knowledge of their sale. You brought them into the conversation, not me. They may have made a handsome profit on their sale, but likely would have profited much more had your dump been located far far away. Or simply cleaned up.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Schmitz: You are so stupid; outright DUMB. When Mathisons lived here was in 2000 and and I moved in here in March of 2000. You want dotcomers to think you have your poop straight that I *pilaged* their sale in but a few SINGLE months? Wow. You and Joe Whalen do each need professional health and damned soon. Call Duane Mathison. He is a MAN. Ask him. But when you do.....REMEMBER.....his MANHOOD and his CHRISTIANITY made the BIGGEST STAND against the government you love so much when the ACLU came and stole the Ten Commandments off of the Courthouse lawn.............duh? And who is selling a home down here anyway? Duh? I would suggest you leave the mushroom patch before 0500 or 0530 every morning. Your staying in the rooms all night is going to getcha.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Schmitz: Are you selling your one bedroom straw hut? What are you asking for it? Does the WWII GI army cot still go with it, or do you use the cot when you are in the rooms?
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Posted by Matt - Schmitz (+166) 12 years ago
I think my work here is done.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Schmitz: I would sure as hell hope so. Does anyone have to pass a DUMB TEST in order to sell insurance? Duh? I used to be licensed to sell Prepaid Legal. I never had to audition that I held donkey opinions. Seeya.
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Posted by Matt - Schmitz (+166) 12 years ago
Get your facts straight you f**king moron. I do not sell insurance. My brother does. You prove with every post just how delusional you are. You can't even muster the intelligence to insult the right people. You can feel free to insult me all day long, but you will leave my family out of this.
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Posted by Kacey (+3159) 12 years ago
Matt,
No point in talking with him.
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Posted by poisonspaghetti (+280) 12 years ago
Here's a thought, Mr. Shipley. If, as you state, you don't want anything to do with Miles City, then why not get rid of your property there and mosey on down the road? That's the great thing about being a nuisance, you can do it anywhere.
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Posted by Kyle L. Varnell (+3745) 12 years ago
Please, let's not encourage him any further.
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Matt Schmitz: I will DRAG your family into this assinine milescity.com POST anytime I so choose.......duh? That is yet another Constitutional RIGHT.......free speech...1st Amendment. If I slander you and your G R E A T family..........no big deal.....sue me.....Joe Whalen did............except he used TAXPAYER money.........and you don't have any. Duh?
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Posted by Rob Shipley (+471) 12 years ago
Kacey: BINGO !!!!!!!! You hit the nail right on the head.........none of you miscreants will ***E V E R***** have anything....not a single thing.....worthwhile to say to me or about me............see? I truly do not care.....even though the way I enjoy ABSOLUTE freedom puts your undies all in a twist. Get a life.
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10000) 12 years ago
Okay, I've had enough of Shipley. Bye.
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Posted by Tony Manero (+98) 12 years ago
Finally. You rock webmaster.
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Posted by Matt - Schmitz (+166) 12 years ago
Be honest with me Larry. Did I say anything to provoke that kind of response? I thought my comments were rather tame. I was just hoping, against all odds I know, that Rob might see that his property could affect others property values. I never said it did, only that it could. Anyway, if I ever overstep the bounds of reasonable discourse on this site, I trust that you will tell me. Thanks Larry, for all you do to allow us to keep track of what goes on in our beloved home town.
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10000) 12 years ago
Matt: Not sure what you mean. I haven't read this entire thread and don't intend on doing so. I'm just tired of glimpsing Shipley's rants and insults day after day. He was warned a long time ago to knock it off, and obviously didn't heed that advice.
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Posted by Kyle L. Varnell (+3745) 12 years ago
Be careful. He might try to sue you for violating his "Free Speech"
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Posted by howdy (+4943) 12 years ago
No such thing as Free Speech on a privately owned web site...thankfully!! Thanks Larry for all you do...
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Posted by Kyle L. Varnell (+3745) 12 years ago
Exactly. But according to Mr. Ship free speech seems to be whatever he wants it to be.

I'm sure Larry will be getting an email or two from Ship. Can you post them for the humor value?
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10000) 12 years ago
Oh, he e-mailed me right away and managed to fit "poop", "procreate", "chickensoccer", and "female dog" into only a few sentences.
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Posted by Kyle L. Varnell (+3745) 12 years ago
Oh PLEASE post it sans profanity! I'm sure we could all use a good laugh today
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6165) 12 years ago
It's a sad day.
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+17317) 12 years ago
Please, Mr. Webmaster, let Rob post again. I would like to be enlightened on how the 16th amendment was never ratified.
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Posted by Kyle L. Varnell (+3745) 12 years ago
He rarely posts here anyway so I second Gunnar's motion.
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Posted by spacekace (+895) 12 years ago
It is October 1st... Did Robby get his premises clean??? Or did he return to the clink???????
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Posted by JCF (+393) 12 years ago
I hope Ship gets to post again, or uses another name, maybe like "Steal Boatly", and then he can enlighten us all about his christian use of the term motherf*#$%r. free speech, you know. Duh.
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Posted by Brian A. Reed (+6014) 12 years ago
Thank Jeebus!

Pure awesomeness. Thanks, Larry.
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Posted by Kyle L. Varnell (+3745) 12 years ago
In looking at this thread again it seems that Larry did a little clean up on it. Mr. Shipley's posts seem more coherent.
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Posted by Heath H (+640) 12 years ago
Wondering. How much would Ship sell his home for? Thinking. Might be time for me to move back to Miles City.
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Posted by MilesCity.com Webmaster (+10000) 12 years ago
Kyle L. Varnell wrote:

> In looking at this thread again it seems that Larry did a little clean up on it. Mr. Shipley's posts seem more coherent.

???
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Posted by Bob L. (+5094) 12 years ago
Kyle is drunk.
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Posted by Kyle L. Varnell (+3745) 12 years ago
No Bob not drunk. It just seems that there's a lot less of Ship's "......." in his posts now.

Perhaps it's just me.
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Posted by ABE (+420) 12 years ago
JUST KIDDING HERE! DO NOT TAKE SERIOUSLY, but..

what if Rob is Larry?

Again sorry Larry, I just wanted to hear some heads explode today.
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Posted by KELLY BABCOCK (+185) 12 years ago
I was suprized to see this subject so close to the top, when I logged in today. I thought that when Ship got banned, {no tears shed here} that this would very rapidly descend into internet limbo. Could it be that Ship might be missed? Do we need the monkey to poke at? I felt sorry for Rob. It's one thing to have a mental illness, but yet quite another when you have the ability and desire, to display it for all to see. The amateur shrink in me can't help but wonder, what happens when this avenue, to spread his venom, is closed. Where he will go? What does that kind of behavior morph into, when one outlet is removed?
Not knowing Rob, it just makes me wonder.
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Posted by ABE (+420) 12 years ago
I heard he moved to the jungle, and now has a village following him, eating up every word he says. They worship him...he may not be back.


MC.com with no Ship?

The horror... the horror...

[This message has been edited by ABE (10/2/2009)]
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