A way to honor the office of the President
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Posted by Steve Craddock (+2742) 12 years ago
It is clear that the vast majority of people think that Mr. Regan's decision to restrict access to the President's Speech to America's Students was wrong. It was WRONG for students, WRONG for the vast majority of parents, and WRONG for the reputation of our community. In short, Mr. Regan was WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.

There has been plenty of civil discussion on milescity.com. There was significant participation by concerned citizens at the school board meeting, and the local newspaper has printed an editorial and at least two letters to the editor. I've seen very little written and heard even less in defense of that decision.

Yet the public's questions and concerns have gone unanswered and have even been ignored by those who hold the public trust's in educating our children and administering our schools.

Mr. Regan has yet to publicly explain his reason(s) for severely restricting student access to the President's speech. He remained largely if not completely silent on the issue at Tuesday night's school board meeting and he has not yet officially released the memo that prohibited / discouraged teachers from showing the speech.

There is also concern about the manner in which this wrong decision was executed. By releasing his directive late on Friday before a 3-day weekend, Mr. Regan left no time for other school administrators, teachers, school board members, or the public to urge him to do the right thing. By the time anyone really knew about it, any chance of effectively altering the decision had passed.

The school board members who expressed ardent support for Mr. Regan's decision have yet to publicly explain the rationale for their support. In democracy, an elected official's practice of informing the public about his/her position is called accountability. If the school board members are confident that there were sound reasons to deny students a RARE opportunity to participate in a national event, then they should be eager to make those reasons known to the public - in their own words.

To those who would respond that this is just a minor issue that is now water under the bridge, I would remind them that the Miles City Star ran a very thoughtful editorial on the matter expressing the opinion that the decision led to a "missed opportunity" for Custer County students. The Star isn't known for publishing editorials on "minor issues." We are talking about the future generation here, as well as the reputation of our community on the state and national stage.

I sincerely hope that Mr. Regan and the School Board will act very quickly to correct the situation by making the President's speech available very soon to all students who want to watch it and discuss it in a meaningful way with their peers - at school. By doing so, they will rectify a very big mistake and show that even school superintendents and school board members can learn something new.

After all, I've heard it said that education is a lifelong process. And I've also heard it shouted out for many years that the Office of the President deserves respect, even if you don't agree with everything the President does.

Those two principles alone make showing the speech the RIGHT thing to do. Now is the time to make it RIGHT.
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4459) 12 years ago
...after you molest them?
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Posted by Heath H (+639) 12 years ago
Buck, the thought never crossed my mind. I see, however, that it crossed yours. You can be just as shocking as you like, but I have no interest in molesting anyone. If Brian isn't offended by your remarks concerning his children, I would suggest that he should at least keep them well away from you.
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Posted by Onie (+6) 12 years ago
Mr. Regan is the public figure and has the duty to report to the taxpayers his reason for his decision...Nothing less will satisfy this as we pay his salary...to hide and remain quiet is cowardly...

I agree. Has anyone who pays taxes here ever seen Mr. Regan's annual salary posted publicly? I wonder what it is??
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Posted by Brian A. Reed (+6024) 12 years ago
Heath - my kids are 5 years and 5 months old. They're both already more mentally astute than yourself and republican (lower case, name withheld). Keep swingin' Ace.
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Posted by Chuck Schott (+1283) 12 years ago
I guess if they missed the school speech they can catch the President on Letterman on Monday night for an hour. And I think after that he's going to be a guest judge on American Idol, with a walk on cameo on 2 1/2 men.
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Posted by logan earley (+108) 12 years ago
Buck has thoughts running through his head of your kids being molested and you still think myself and Heath are the problem? Hmmm...sounds like someone thinks more highly of his dog than his children...
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Posted by Heath H (+639) 12 years ago
In order to understand why Brian A. Reed doesn't care about Buck's idea, you only have to look to Brian A. Reed's source of entertainment and what Brian A. Reed, "loves."

http://www.cricketsoda.com

http://milescity.com/foru...pid=106889
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4459) 12 years ago
Heath, stop being a douche.
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Posted by Heath H (+639) 12 years ago
Oh, ok Buck.
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Posted by Nathan Jessup (+46) 12 years ago
Buck you need to take your own advice
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4459) 12 years ago
Go suck one, Nate.
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Posted by Nathan Jessup (+46) 12 years ago
You sucked them all already
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6175) 12 years ago
Are we talking about teabaggers again?
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4459) 12 years ago
Does it count if the teabag is on his chin?
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Posted by Heath H (+639) 12 years ago
Now this is the Miles City I remember.
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Posted by Brian A. Reed (+6024) 12 years ago
Heath - seek help. Seriously.

If you honestly think that I would harm a child, especially my own - I mean if you're not just deliberately being a douchebag and truly believe that I get some sort of satisfaction out of the thought of a child being molested - why don't you put your money where your mouth is and have the balls to use your full name when you make your innuendo? Otherwise, kindly please STFU.

My children are off-limits to you. If you don't have the decency, at least have the brains (and I know this is asking A LOT) not to cross that line with me.
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Posted by J. Dyba (+1348) 12 years ago
THEMS FIGHTING WORDS HERE ON THE INTERWEBS AR RARG GHARG!!!
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Posted by Heath H (+639) 12 years ago
Brian A. Reed,

I have not disparaged your children and have not crossed any lines you have not crossed prior. Please go back and read the posts. Funny you are telling me your children are off-limits when you were the one who initially brought up my children.

Buck is the person you should be addressing here, Ace.

It's laughable that you, of all people, have the, "stones," to tell anyone that anything is, "off-limits."

You are also getting way off topic, again. Take a look at the subject line of this thread and post something, ANYTHING, relevant.
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Posted by Brian A. Reed (+6024) 12 years ago
Heath - What I had said is that I pity your children because their father is a nitwit. I said nothing about their actual well-being.

What you said is that my children are prey to be molested by their father.

Only a douchebag would fail - whether by choice or abject stupidity - to recognize the difference.
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Posted by republican (+23) 12 years ago
Did anyone else realize Buck can't write a sentence without putting something sexual in it?

And Brian A. Reed - BUCK is the only person who put molestation and your children together. Why are you sticking up for Buck? Only a sick f**k would think like that.

You need to get a life Brian A. Reed.
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Posted by Brian A. Reed (+6024) 12 years ago
You need to get a life Brian A. Reed.

Says the person who thinks so litle of his/her own words that he/she doesn't bother to hold him/herself accountable to them. Why should I care what you think, republican (lower case, name withheld) if you obviously don't?

Get a name before you tell me to get a life.

BUCK is the only person who put molestation and your children together.

Oh really?

http://milescity.com/foru...889#106906

http://milescity.com/foru...988#106909

You're about as bright as Heath.

I wasn't sticking up for Buck. He can handle himself well enough. I simply happen to agree with him that Heath is a douchebag. It's the whole "enemy of my enemy is a friend" thing. Let me know if you need that explained to you. I can talk/type slowly if you like.

[This message has been edited by Brian A. Reed (9/20/2009)]
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Posted by Nathan Jessup (+46) 12 years ago
I think Brian has a new crush. Congrats Heath
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Posted by Heath H (+639) 12 years ago
Brian,

You are paranoid. Even when I followed the last two links you provided, I still don't see the connection to your accusations.

You're losing it, dude.
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Posted by republican (+23) 12 years ago
Brian A. Reed -

You dug your own grave with those links.
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Posted by Steve Z (+996) 12 years ago
I thought this thread was about the controversial speech given by President Obama to schools across the country. Where in that speech was there anything about douche bags or child molesters? When it comes down to it, the speech lacked any real substance and was totally irrelevant to anything considered education. This was certainly not a "rare" opportunity that Miles City children missed out on. The speech is out there for anyone who wishes to watch it. I did and found nothing inspirational about it. As for the recent postings I certainly hope that these are authored by children because the inability to stay on subject and cut to personal attacks on each other are nothing more than playground tactics. Really, grow up. The rest of us don't need to sift through the bs looking for intelligent insight.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6175) 12 years ago
It's hard to find a speech inspirational when you've already decided the speaker is a lying French muslim pirate from Kenya. One hopes that most third-graders hadn't done so.
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Posted by republican (+23) 12 years ago
The French part of that is new to me...
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Posted by Michael E. Moore (+25) 12 years ago
One of our responsibilities as parents is to control what our children are exposed too. I thank people for looking after my kids, if it is in my children's best interest, that being said; I do not want my children exposed to the rantings and ravings of a known Marxist who surrounds himself with known communists! We had one President from Illinois that set the black man free from land owners, now we have one that wants to enslave all of us to the government! Over my dead body! Liberals only want to enslave us all to provide them with comfort! Just look at all the Democrats that didn't pay their taxes in the Obama administration and the Democratic Congressmen who have been convicted of various crimes including the The Congressman who wrote the tax code himself failing to pay taxes owed!! I'm sorry, I was a Democrat for most of my life until the liberals took charge, maybe that is why I detest the liberal agenda so much, but Americans have to wake up and see that socialism and communism mean curtailment of liberty, and lost of freedom! Maybe you want to give up your freedom to have health care, maybe you want to give up your freedom to advance General Electric's "Green House" agenda, maybe you should move to Canada, or Mexico, or England.... just as long as you move!
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Posted by Bridgier (+9178) 12 years ago
Still think this is the future base of the glorious republican revolution Jim?
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Posted by Joe Whalen (+623) 12 years ago
President Obama was delivered into office by an electoral landslide of 349 to 173 and, in doing so, picked up six seats in the Senate, eighteen seats in the House of Representatives and another gubernatorial seat. It was a peaceful transfer of power.

Those still harboring dark fetishes for Ayn Rand get to sit it out for a few years.
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4459) 12 years ago
How is it that complete retards can make so much money (or claim to)?
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Posted by Michael E. Moore (+25) 12 years ago
Granted, he got in legally and he is doing everything in accordance of the War Powers Act, just as Bush did, but it doesn't make it right!
Sooner or later one of two things will happen; 1. he will overstep his bounds and violate States rights(which was the real cause of the first Civil War); 2. He will openly circumvent laws to a degree to cause great civil unrest, including violent demonstrations. The truth is, if Bush had done the things Hussein has done, we would all ready have the civil unrest and violence from the left. The right is just much more tolerate than the left.
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Posted by howdy (+4942) 12 years ago
the real cause of the civil war was slavery due to the economic dependency of the southern states on that way of life..nothing more and nothing less..I am a southerner and have been taught that all my life...States rights have nothing to do with it...
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4459) 12 years ago
Complete retard, I was right.
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Posted by Heath H (+639) 12 years ago
How is it that complete retards can make so much money (or claim to)?

Envious, Buck?

[This message has been edited by Heath H (9/22/2009)]
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Posted by howdy (+4942) 12 years ago
More like dubious, Heath...
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Posted by Julie H (+197) 12 years ago
Wow. I can't believe that this conversation is still going on both here and in the paper. Last night's letter to the editor asked what about the parents opinions?

As a parent I support Mr. Regan's decision. I agree with him 100%. If parents wanted their children to see and hear the speech then they had many options to make it available for them at another time other than during school. It should be done on their time and not in school. I have a junior high student. She along with her friends did not want to hear the speech and it meant no disrespect to anyone. It isn't something they felt was right for school.

I never comment on anything political and keep my own opinions to myself. However, I know there are many other parents here in Miles City that support the decision of Mr. Regan. Maybe everyone who is commenting that doesn't have kids should let it go.

I'm sure there will be negative comments about what I have to say and that's fine. I see more and more that nobody is saying anything except for those that disagree with the decision. Believe it or not there are others who are parents that agree with Mr. Regan.

I truly do not feel that kids should be forced to watch something such as this during school. Politics is something they could discuss more with their parents. It has often been said that the content of something is going to be specifically about one thing but it turns out to have another message. Is is possible that Mr. Regan was looking at it from that point of view? I have seen many times this year how things are not presented as they should be or that they are presented one sided. What's to say that this woulndn't happen with the speech?

I feel that the "Mr. Regan Bashing" should stop. He made a decision that he felt was right for "OUR" kids. Let's turn the tables of saying that it was disrespectful to not air the speech -- let's look at what everyone is teaching our kids but bashing the superintendant and school board for a decision that they thought was right. It's telling our kids that it's ok to loudly voice against administrations.

It's fine if you didn't like the decision, but please stop trying to speak for all of the parents and students who agree with the decision of the school. After all, it is the students that were affected -- not everyone else.

As adults you all had the choice to watch or not to watch. What's the difference for our kids? They should have that right also. Nothing else is aired to an entire district why should this be any different? Their right is to watch it if they choose to do so and on their own time.

[This message has been edited by Julie H (9/22/2009)]
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Posted by Denise Selk (+1669) 12 years ago
"It's telling our kids that it's ok to loudly voice against administrations."

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Julie, you've identified the problem perfectly with this statement. Mr. Regan's only public comment as to what thought process he used to make the decision was that he received "many" calls from parents who did not want the speech shown. In order to find a middle ground, he chose not to air the speech. I would say that the model for loudly voicing opinions came from the anti-speech sect from the get-go.

I think, and I can speak only for myself, that what is upsetting is that the decision was made not to air the speech, by Mr. Regan's own words, in an attempt to placate those parents calling and complaining. Is this really the most effective means of administration? What is the lesson being taught? I guess the message is the age-old adage that the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Quite simply, the middle ground would have been to show the speech and offer an option to parents for their children. It is immaterial whether the students wanted to watch the speech. I don't believe the students are given a choice in sitting through any number of other videos educators use in class to accompany a lesson. I know I sure had no desire to watch the cartoonization of the sperm making its merry way to the egg. Did I get a say? No. Why should this be any different?

I think a dangerous precedent has been set. Presidential addresses have been shown to Miles City's school children in the past. I am assuming that from this point forward, this standard will be a thing of the past. I am not necessarily disagreeing with that, as I believe that if it is important to a parent that the child witness an address, as you say, it can be done in the confines of one's home. However, at no point in the future should a presidential address be shown in the schools, regardless of the sitting president. To do so risks the administration looking blatantly biased in one regard or another.
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Posted by Denise Selk (+1669) 12 years ago
Oh, and

"It's fine if you didn't like the decision, but please stop trying to speak for all of the parents and students who agree with the decision of the school. After all, it is the students that were affected -- not everyone else."


I'm not positive, but I think this statement very smartly depicts the behavior of the parents who called and complained in the first place. Decide for your own child, and I will decide for mine. That's the nature of parenting.
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4459) 12 years ago
Let's go burn some f*cking books
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Posted by Bridgier (+9178) 12 years ago
I know I sure had no desire to watch the cartoonization of the sperm making its merry way to the egg

Actually, I found this interesting enough to engage in some independent study of the mechanisms involved. Very fascinating.
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Posted by Denise Selk (+1669) 12 years ago
Some "hands-on" study I'm sure Bridgier?

[This message has been edited by Denise Selk (9/22/2009)]
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4459) 12 years ago
C'mon you guys, let's burn some f*cking books!!!

...and some crosses, while we're at it.

[This message has been edited by Buck Showalter (9/22/2009)]
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr (+14948) 12 years ago
Has this horse not been sufficiently beaten?
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Posted by Bob Netherton II (+1903) 12 years ago
Richard. It is no longer a horse. Oh, there's a little hair here and there, and an occasional tooth, but mostly its a homogeneous pulp with a few stick marks.
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6175) 12 years ago
It's not a horse; it's a magic pony fairy.
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Posted by Richard Bonine, Jr (+14948) 12 years ago
Are you sure you don't mean french magic pony fairy?
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6175) 12 years ago
from Kenya
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Posted by Buck Showalter (+4459) 12 years ago
Death panels
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