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Posted by Mary Catherine Dunphy (+2709) 6 months ago
Yet another ironic moment involving President Trump.

"Trump, Who Made It Easier for Mentally Ill People to Buy Guns, Blames Mental Health Issues for Florida Shooting"

"Almost exactly a year ago, Trump signed a law to revoke an Obama-era gun regulation that made it more difficult for those with mental illnesses to acquire guns. Media was not allowed to attend the bill-signing event."

https://www.motherjones.c...-shooting/

A little over a month after his inauguration, on Feb. 28, 2017, President Trump signed HJ Resolution 40, a bill that made it easier for people with mental illness to obtain guns.

https://www.msn.com/en-us...ailsignout

NOT MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

WAKE UP, AMERICA!
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Posted by Tucker Bolton (+2937) 6 months ago
Screw the prayers and thoughts. The Christian Right would see that as a solution. Get tough with the gun laws and kick the NRA and anyone that takes their blood money squarely in the nuts.
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+9295) 6 months ago
I am offended that I can not express my second amendment rights when I visit DC. If I try to enter the White House or the Capitol building or a Congressional office building I have to go through a metal detector and search and am NOT ALLOWED to bring my fully-loaded semi-automatic bump stock weapon with me when I visit my Congressperson. I say if they are all so up people carrying guns all the time, let people carry guns into their world.
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Posted by Earl Bennett (+478) 6 months ago
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I might add hopefully we have a valid ID that gets us in even not carrying the above named weapon. I remember making jokes about the Russians having to have papers to travel (train, plane, or automobile) when I was way younger in grade school. Now who has to have them as well. Not so much free'er.
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Posted by Tom Masa (+1647) 6 months ago
I struggle somewhat with the gun issue. I grew up in a family with guns. Myself and my two brothers were in the military. We grew up learning to shoot and to hunt. As I grew older I tended to fade away from guns and hunting. But saw how much pleasure it gave my dad and brother John to hunt. I last hunted with my dad when he was 85 years old and shot an antelope at over 300 yards. I'll never forget that. Once earlier I was with my dad and John hunting deer and we hadn't seen any all day. Just about sundown we came upon a herd. Before my dad and I could get out of the pickup. John, who was driving, was out leaned over the hood, shot six times in a matter of seconds. He filled our tags. John said "you don't need an automatic weapon if you learn to shoot. Those type of guns are for war." He quit the NRA because of their stand on automatic weapons. Still we should have guns for hunting but do we need machine guns. If you can't hit the prey in one or two shots you shouldn't be hunting. No matter what your stand is on guns,something has to be done. The anti-gun people shouldn't be dragging the age old argument to get rid of all guns and the pro-gun people shouldn't be arguing their age old argument about the right to bear arms etc etc etc. The discussion should be on how to prevent the mass shootings. The differences should be put aside and a solution should be worked for. Unfortunately it probably isn't going to happen with this generation. But I see some hope in the school children themselves standing up, hopefully their generation will solve this terrible problem. Whew! I need a beer!
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Posted by Bridgier (+8054) 5 months ago
I'm sure there are some 'take ALL the guns' people out there, but most of the people I know that are 'anti-gun' are actually 'anti-gun violence' - they're all for letting people keep their hunting weapons, and are mostly reasonable on people keeping pistols, etc for personal protection.

But gun culture has become rotten, and that needs to be addressed. I hear people talk about how they NEED a gun on them at all times to feel safe - I've never experienced that need, and I've been around the sun (and the block) a time or two. I see people walking around with an AR-15 on their back in Starbucks - that's stupid. Bump stocks have one purpose and one purpose only, to increase the rate of fire on your semi-automatic weapon to make it the near-equivalent of an automatic variant. Ban that.

Guns are tool to kill things. Sometimes you need one, and there should be well-regulated method of obtaining a weapon for those situations. Most of the time you don't, and you're just cosplaying.

I think you should have to carry some sort of insurance on your weapons, such that if someone is injured by an accidental discharge, they can be made (financially) whole. I think EVERY accident should have criminal and/or civil repercussions - if you want to claim a right to carry this tool, you should be held equally responsible for what that tool is used for.

Someone steals you pistol? You'd better get your ass down to the police station to pay an indemnity (equal to the value of the weapon) or you're on the hook as well for any mischief that anyone gets up to with your insufficiently secured shooting iron.

Be responsible gun owners, and that means policing the nut-jobs and muzzle-fondlers that show up down at the gun club. Or don't bitch when the rest of society decides it can't trust you with these tools anymore.
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Posted by Mary Catherine Dunphy (+2709) 5 months ago
I heard a young mother talk about her 6 year old son coming home from school and hiding under the kitchen table. When she asked him what he was doing, he said he was practicing in case a bad man with a gun came to their house -- just like they practice lock-downs at school.

What are we teaching the children? That it is okay for anyone to own a weapon of war, like an AR-15 or AK-47, when school shootings are happening at the rate of one every two weeks? Why was the assault weapon ban not renewed when it expired on September 13, 2004? And why, indeed, are Congress people protected by metal detectors at Capitol Hill when school children are not?

Ask your Congressman why and vote accordingly in the fall!

I think I know how the students who turn 18 this year will be voting.
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Posted by Mary Catherine Dunphy (+2709) 5 months ago
Former Montana Supreme Court Justice, James Nelson, published the following opinion, "It's Not a Mental Health Problem" in today's Billings Gazette:

http://billingsgazette.co...066b9.html
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Posted by cubby (+2271) 5 months ago
I think that a lot of these kids need to look at them selves before pointing the finger at others for help. I mean look at all the facts in school shootings. Most if not all of the time the kids that commit the crime have been bullied to the extent that they feel no one they tell will help them. I mean if just one kid walked up to these kids getting bullied and put their hand on their shoulder and told them I'll listen to you and be your friend, I bet the out come would be different most times. But no, no one wants to be friends with the kid getting bullied because of what others would think of them. Kids are mean now days. Back when I was in school if we got bullied we went out back after school and handled it with our fists.
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Posted by Mary Catherine Dunphy (+2709) 5 months ago
Take a look at this spreadsheet to see which members in the U.S. House and U.S. Senate get the big bucks from the NRA. Just imagine how many schools could be repaired with these donations.

https://docs.google.com/s...1782600961

Other articles of interest:

http://www.ajc.com/news/n...pr4f7f7cM/

https://www.opensecrets.o...D000000082
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Posted by Bridgier (+8054) 5 months ago
I think that a lot of these kids need to look at them selves before pointing the finger at others for help.


I don't want to bully anyone, but this is a rather silly statement to make about people who were, less than a week ago, sending out text messages from their classrooms to their loved ones, just in case they didn't make it home.

Cyberbullying HAS gotten worse, because it didn't exist back in our day, but I don't think the kids are any meaner then they used to be - they just have more tools at their disposal.

Apropos of nothing, but... how many of those MCPD raffle tickets have YOU bought cubby?
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+9295) 5 months ago
According to the Florida legislature, gun violence is NOT a public health issue but pornography is? When was the last time 17 people were slaughtered by dirty pictures? What the intercourse is wrong with these people? And since Russia had started claiming the survivors are 'fake,' the ignorant, despicable Russia dupes of this country are attacking the children who were hiding in closets to try to stay alive. Every time I think the Republican party has to have hit bottom, they go so low I am disgusted by them. What happened to the decent human beings who used to be Republicans? Have they all died or changed party affiliation out of shame and disgust?
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Posted by Mary Catherine Dunphy (+2709) 5 months ago
It appears the Russians don't just interfere with U.S. elections -- now their bots are getting involved in the gun debate -- and it only took the Russians one (1) hour to get involved after the school shooting in Florida last week.

Read more at:

https://www.nytimes.com/2...oting.html

WAKE UP, AMERICA!
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Posted by The man from snowy plains (-159) 5 months ago
Good read Bridgier. As kids we had single shot 22 for shooting gophers and rabbits. Not just any time, only with adults. They were never locked up but you best not touch it unless the adults were with you. Grandpa had a 30-30 Winchester. Assault weapon by these terms. Shot my first deer with the 30-30. Not beong a great shot, didn't hit the one I was pointing at. LOL
These shooters want notoriety. Terrorist use anything cars trucks pressure cooker bombs.
For most of my life I had a 22 with a ten round clip behind the seat of the truck in a scabbard. Used it a few time too put down a sick COW. Allways kinda thought guns where not that great.
But all that changed when they were trying too ban guns. Of course it became a big wind fall for guns sales and prices went sky high.
First I bought a 9mm pistol and a concealed carry permit. Then a 223 coyote rifle. I enjoy the technical part of reloading for accuracy.
YUP I ENJOY SHOOTING AT THE Range. Sport shooting for predictors and pests.
Now I have dozens of pistol and rifles..AR's most of them bought at pawn shops and individuals. The best ones for long range accuracy are bolt action.
Your right Brid, Gun Libility Insurance is a must.
I find law enforcement are very concealed carry friendly, anytime I get pulled over for speeding, running a yellow light or just forgot too turn my lights on. I keep both hands on the steering wheel until they are at my window. Then I tell them I have guns in the truck. They ask for the CONCELLED CARRY then the say something like you keep holstered and I Will!
SO THE CENTURY'S LONG MOTO
WHEN GUNS ARE OUTLAWED ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE GUNS.

KEEPING AMERICA GREAT
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Posted by Bridgier (+8054) 5 months ago
Who took any guns away?

Who?

I look around and, just like you said, the opposite occurred. There's procreateing guns everywhere, being carried by people who don't need them, because they need to be 'safe'

Safe as the guy who got shot in that movie theater in florida, because the 'good guy with a gun' behind him didn't like the cut of his jib. Maybe he was a little to mouthy or something, I bet everybody respects the shooter now, amirite?

Or maybe as safe as that lady who (also in florida) got shot in the back by her toddler because she couldn't go driving around town without her shooting iron, just in case.

I'm glad to know that you're packing heat, makes me feel so much safer.

Insanity.
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Posted by The man from snowy plains (-159) 5 months ago
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/02/22/utah-teacher-why-she-carries-gun-school-wake-florida-shooting

Try too stay on topic, Kids killed in car accidents are poor parenting also. But then again Liberals can't stay on topic. Admitting they are not 100% right all the time, anything too change the subject.
So how many of your firearms are single shot?
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Posted by David Schott (+12368) 5 months ago
Reply to The man from snowy plains (#375104)
Questions for Snowy:

1. What is the primary purpose of an automobile?
2. What is the primary purpose of a firearm?
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Posted by The man from snowy plains (-159) 5 months ago
David
The point is poor parenting. A gun left where a child can get it is poor parenting.
Like a child that is not in a proper and correct child seat is poor parenting.
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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+11722) 5 months ago
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Posted by The man from snowy plains (-159) 5 months ago
Yeh Gunner, I know how you feel. 8 years of OBAMA was the same feeling.
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Posted by Bridgier (+8054) 5 months ago
something something stay on point something something look over there something something...

Beyond loving guns and hating obama, is there anything you actually believe?
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Posted by Mary Catherine Dunphy (+2709) 5 months ago
Trump thinks the teachers should be armed and get extra pay for being armed. Oh really?

Question: If all teachers are armed, who do the police decide is the actual shooter (or bad guy) when they respond at a school shooting?

Another Question: Are the teachers going to be armed with AK-47s or AR-15s because I'm not sure a teacher armed with a hand gun will be able to stop a shooter armed with an AK-47 or AR-15?

And, how about the armed school resource officer who stayed outside the high school and didn't respond at the Florida shooting last week?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/...index.html
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Posted by Mary Catherine Dunphy (+2709) 5 months ago
"A Powerful Letter Captures a Teacher's Existential Crisis: Would I die for My Students"

Art History Teacher, Rebecca Field has written a powerful letter. Here it is:

"Dear every elected official,

Nowhere in my contract does it state that if the need arises, I have to shield students from gunfire with my own body. If it did, I wouldn't have signed it. I love my job. I love my students. I am also a mother with 2 amazing daughters. I am a wife of a wonderful man. I have a dog that I adore. I don't want to die defending other people's children; I want to teach kindness and responsibility...and Art History. That's what I am supposed to do each day. Blocking bullets? I am not supposed to do that. I imagine that if someone was trying to kill my students, that I would try to save them with all my being. I probably would jump on top of a child to save her life. And yes, I might be one of those heroic teachers that the media writes tributes to after their death. But I am furious that I would have to make this sacrifice. I am incensed that my own children would lose their mother because I chose to be a teacher.

I chose to be a teacher knowing that on most days I would not be able to use the bathroom until 4 pm. I chose teaching knowing that I would be grading papers all weekend and working far beyond the hours of my contract. I chose to teach even though it meant that I would miss every awards assembly and field trip that my daughters asked me to attend. I even signed up to sit in a counselor's office with a teenager on my lap, holding her as she sobbed through an anxiety attack. I signed up to ask a child if they were considering committing suicide and then relaying this terrifying information to a parent. It seems like a lot to agree to, but truly I knew what I was getting into.

I did not sign up to be ripped apart by a spray of bullets that came from a semi-automatic rifle. At the end of my teaching contract, it says that I will perform "other duties to be assigned". I do not interpret these words "as bleeding to death on the floor of my classroom". The anger that courses through my body after a school shooting in this country is accompanied by pure panic. I am terrified of my own children dying in school, first and foremost, but I am also terrified that the responsibility that sits on my shoulders as a teacher is far greater than I can rationally accept. On Back to School Night, I look out at the gazes of the parents in front of me as we silently make a pact. "I am giving you the most precious part of me with the knowledge that you will shield my child's body with your own when the need arises." They say this with their eyes. I agree to this responsibility and make a silent unbreakable oath before them. As I am telling them about the 20,000 years of global art history that I will be teaching their child, I am also agreeing to die. When I am in the parent's place at my daughter's school, I am asking the same of her teacher. This teacher may end up being the only thing blocking a bullet aimed for my daughter's head.

I am furious. How dare you force me to choose between my own children and those that I teach. How dare you allow powerful adults who love guns to be more important than a generation of children growing up in fear. I don't want to spend mornings memorizing my children's clothing so I can identify them later. I don't want to spend professional development hours learning how to save a few more lives by setting up barricades. Sometimes when a kid is driving me crazy in class I think to myself: "Would I die for you? Would I lose everything to save you from harm?" I have my moments when I shake my head NO.

Instead of making dead teachers into saints, make them safer when they are still alive. Make it possible for schools to have smaller class sizes so that we can get to know our students and look out for the ones who need help. Hire more counselors and school nurses and social workers and psychologists so that many people are caring for each child. HELP us prevent this. Take away guns from people who will murder us. Stop taking money from the NRA and proving how soulless you are. Keep us safe so I can do my job. How dare you put me into constant danger so that you can be reelected. How dare you make me choose between saving children or making my own children motherless. How dare you make me into a hero when I just want to teach."

https://www.msn.com/en-us...ailsignout
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Posted by Mary Catherine Dunphy (+2709) 5 months ago
It appears the FBI is also investigating if any Russian money went to the NRA to help get Trump elected president.

Read more at:

https://www.snopes.com/20...ey-to-nra/
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Posted by The man from snowy plains (-159) 5 months ago
Not being an NRA member. I'll go with the "you can pry my gun out of my cold dead fingers. It would please me too see legislation passed that they faced a firing squad in 3 days. Mental Illness my behind, It's the notoriety they seek.
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Posted by Mary Catherine Dunphy (+2709) 5 months ago
Here are all the brands that have cut ties with the NRA following gun-control activists' boycotts.

https://www.msn.com/en-us...ut#image=1
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Posted by Mary Catherine Dunphy (+2709) 5 months ago
Oh dear! Here's another reason why guns should not be in the classroom.

"Georgia Teacher Arrested after firing Gunshot in School Classroom"

https://www.msn.com/en-us...ailsignout
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Posted by tom regan (+478) 3 months ago
bump

http://www.stonekettle.co...teach.html

[Edited by tom regan (5/18/2018 11:45:10 AM)]
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