Moving to Miles City
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Posted by Redheadguy (+30) 25 days ago
So I might be moving to Miles City. How's the diversity? And in terms of outdoor activities what is their to do besides fishing and hunting?any hiking trails?

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Posted by sk (+22) 24 days ago
Hope things work out and you find a new home here in Miles City. If you like the outdoors, this is a fine place to live, good hunting and fishing, plenty of hiking at Strawberry Hill and Spotted Eagle. This year good cross county skiing and other winter sports. The Bucking Horse Sale coming up. There is plenty to do, although at times it may take a little imagination, that's not all bad though
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Posted by Amorette F. Allison (+1824) 23 days ago
Interested in music? Theater or the arts? History? We got tons of those as well as scenery.
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Posted by Frank Hardy (+1306) 23 days ago
There's talk of a pool.

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Posted by Gunnar Emilsson (+8197) 23 days ago
The diversity in Miles City is amazing. I've met people there whose ancestors came from Scotland, Ireland, Norway, England, Sweden, Russia, Germany, France, Italy, and Finland.
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Posted by Ken Ziebarth (+262) 19 days ago
Any from an Asian, African, or Latin American country??
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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6057) 12 days ago
Diversity is pretty nil. There are a few Hispanic families and the owners of the local Chinese restaurant. May be others. Mostly Republican with a small group of staunch Democrats. A few good restaurants, couple good coffee shops and lots of trucks. Some social clubs, Caledonia Society, and community college. Two interesting museums and lots of western flair and history.

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Posted by MeiMei (+162) 11 days ago
Just saying the diversity at the high school has changed in the past several years! Lots of great kids from a variety of roots.
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Posted by Redheadguy (+30) 10 days ago
Thanks everyone for the help. I should be moving there in March. So, just need to find a nice apartment in a nice neighborhood!
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Posted by Scotterdog (-108) 10 days ago
Sorry to say, but the jobs here pay nothing. Miles City is a very poor community. Rent is totally outrageous. One would be crazy to buy a home here as taxes are the highest I have ever seen.
There are a lot of out door things to do, but if you don't have money, it will be hard to enjoy.
I've notice in Miles City, once here, it's almost impossible to get out. The jobs they offer pay minimal. You will have just enough money to hopefully pay the bills, but never get ahead. It's almost as though the community has set it up this way to insure they have a population as nobody can leave. It's slavery if anything. You struggle to get the check, and it's gone.
I've also noticed you cannot trust people. I had all my stuff in storage stolen and nothing was done. We know who did it but again, nothing will ever be done.
Crystal Meth is a huge problem in this town. I worked in the oil industry for 20 years and never seen a community with such a drug problem. You see it everywhere you go.
Miles City is a very "cliqish" community. You are better off keeping to yourself.
There would be far better place to move in Montana, which has jobs that pay more than 8-15/hr.
Rent- is like 450-550 for a single room apartment. Of course, you will be dealing with the meth heads living in a place like that. 2 Bedroom homes rent for about 750/month. Average wage is less than 2k/month. Everything is expensive here.
Jobs-Good luck. Fast food and casinos, all paying 10/hr or less. Construction pays less than 20/hr. Technicians make less than 20/hr. There are no good paying jobs, unless you become, say a bank president or are a crooked lawyer.
Everyone is struggling. It's a horrid place to be. Nice to visit, but for the love of God, don't get stuck here!
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Posted by Redheadguy (+30) 9 days ago
I already have a job offer, so no worries there. The drug use is obviously an issue is it really that bad? Their are some expensive houses in miles city, so it can't possibly be everywhere.
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Posted by Cory Cutting (+1211) 9 days ago
Redhead, don't listen to that drivel. He seems to expect the economy of a large city with the quaintness of a small town. Yeah, MC has issues, every place does. Drugs can be a problem, but it's not like they are standing on every corner selling blow and hookers to 10 year olds!

Many people on here, myself included, were born and raised in Miles City. I couldn't wait to leave. Now, in my late 40's I desire to go back. There's something about the small town life that is very appealing. No it's not exciting, but it is very comfortable.

Pay is what you would expect in a small town. No, you're not going to make a fortune, but you could live comfortably. Housing is becoming expensive, but that's a nationwide issue. Miles City was a recipient/victim of the recent oil boom. Lots of people coming into town has a cause and effect effect on all prices and markets. It is most noticeable in a small town, where residents are used to fewer problems, lower costs, and a more quiet life.

Miles City is probably one of the best places to raise kids. Lots of good kids to be friends with and still small town "trouble" to get into.

I think if you have kids, if you want a more quiet life, if you are looking for a place to know your neighbors or enjoy a more relaxing life, Miles City is a great pick!
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Posted by Scotterdog (-108) 8 days ago
Ya, great place to live. With kids shooting up prescription drugs, the Hep C. rate is around 70%, Whoever said drugs aren't abound in the community is ether dealing or out of touch with reality. You see it everywhere you go. The thefts that go on to support their habits is really pathetic.

Alcoholics are next in this town. Rather sad.

Pay is one of the lowest in the State. People make more in Baker which is half the size and rent half of what they charge here. One example is a company that pays around 18/hr for work that the average starting wage is 29/hr in the state. They know they can pay you that low because the other jobs are paying even worse.

AS I said, once here, you will find it almost impossible to get out. Thank god I have option, but I feel for those I have to leave behind, knowing I can stop in some 10 years down the road and know nothing has changed.

The oil boom has nothing to do with it, it was exactly like this in the 90's. Drugs, low pay, and high rent. And for what? If getting by paycheck to paycheck is what you call living, I call it surviving on minimal. There is more to life than living like a slave and having people tell you how grand it is to live that way.
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Posted by cubby (+1873) 8 days ago
So my question is why not move, get the hell gone out of this god for seeking place. Why stay here and bitch about it? Myself and many many many others around this town love it here, make a good wage and provide just fine for our families. Maybe life is what you make of it, and yours, is well, what you make of it. I've always said only you can make a change.
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Posted by cubby (+1873) 8 days ago
One more thing, your stats of Hep C is so made up it's not even funny. Let me guess you went to the clinic and they just gave you those numbers because of who you are. Yea I believe that lol
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Posted by Karen L. Morris (+505) 8 days ago
I've lived many places and, so far, I have yet to find a "perfect" place. That said, each place has its own positives. Much of what you find is what you expect to find. If you approach Miles City with a positive attitude and are friendly to the people, you will find that there are no friendlier people to be found anywhere! There are some exceptions, of course, but that's true of any place. As a whole, you will find that people here are "neighbors" in the old-fashioned sense and they will help you if you need it and if they can. Some may not have much, but they are willing to share what they have (which makes them some of the richest people in my book). It is a place where it is not unusual to speak to strangers in the grocery store, the post office, or wherever. You just might make a friend. Don't forget to stop at the Public Library when you are checking things out. The staff is phenomenal and will be more than happy to point you in whatever direction you need (some great resources to be found there). I never thought I would come back after I left, but through a turn of events, I did--expecting to stay about a year. That was 17 years ago.

Welcome to Miles City from Jobie and his Mom!
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+8333) 8 days ago
I love Miles City. Yes, there are problems. We live in the real world. Is the stuff Scotterdog muttering about true? Not from what I know and I work for the newspaper. Yeah, we don't have oil jobs in Miles City. Never have, never will. Yes, apartments are hard to find because we have had a very steady population over the years.

But you will never find a more welcoming community in the world. Try us!
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Posted by Redheadguy (+30) 8 days ago
Thanks so much everyone! I'll be visiting next week. The weather should finally be good enough for the trip. Hopefully, find a place to stay. I have a couple options for that already. Then get all my stuff moved over, so should be beginning to mid March to finalize everything.

Thanks again everyone for your help! If anyone has any specific info on apartments that are good or ones to specifically steer clear of please let me know too! :-)
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Posted by Hanson (+75) 7 days ago
We have available a street level, fairly large one bedroom apartment, that was just redone. It is one block off Main street. If interested and you have references call 406-232-2134 to inquire or leave a message. It is also no pets and no smoking.
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Posted by J.mug (-6) 7 days ago
I agree with scotterdog. Miles City is a terrible place to live. Diversity? What diversity? How about culture? No, none of that Unless you consider getting drunk a culture.
The towns biggest event of the year is the Bucking Horse Sale which is a based solely on booze. It seems the only time the town cleans up is for the Bucking Horse Sale. By cleans up I mean paint buildings, clean the fairgrounds, makes Main Street look presentable etc. The town hosts a couple other events like Bobby Burns, the Mesquito festival, & an Irish throw down around st. Patties day, all which consist of excessive amounts of alcohol. I hope you like to drink because if you don't it's hard to fit in. Kids are raised watching their parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, partake in drinking festivals so it's all quite normal to the upcoming generations who never seem to leave Miles City. I would never raise kids there.
Take a drive through town you'll notice people don't take a lot of pride in what they have. Lots of houses that need TLC and lots of garbage. The housing situation is the worst I have ever come across. Outrageous prices for crappy houses. Both the county and city is poor and corrupt. It takes only one meeting with the commissioners to see exactly what I'm talking about. Miles City community doesn't really seem to group together for anything. Rarely is a new project started and completed based just on community Cooperation. Most of their "clubs" are either a flop or don't have much involvement.
I don't think I have ever heard someone in the state of Montana say "let's visit Miles City this weekend!". It's simply a gas stop on the interstate. One should take a drive down Hanes avenue after getting fuel. Hanes avenue has no appeal to it, no trees, barely any landscaping. Most of the building are brand new construction but yet it's obvious the city didn't care to put much thought into the planning of it. The traffic is crowded, it's very apparent there is a need for more stop lights. The buildings are ugly and unorganized, parking lots dead end instead of flowing in to one another. It's just a dirty place.
There is a couple employers that do pay decent, like the hospital, but this is because they can't get anyone to move there to work for them. Even with a decent job, housing is so expensive it's almost impossible to get ahead. Not to mention if you want to purchase a home you'll have to pay quite a bit in insurance because most of the town is in a flood zone. I'd visit & spend a little bit of time before making the commitement of moving.

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Posted by Scotterdog (-108) 7 days ago
Cubby-Who said I live IN Miles City?? 2nd, the HEP C rates come from the DOC, sorry if you don't like it.

J.Mug-You hit the nail on the head. Nobody say's "lets go to Miles City" unless it's the drunks going to the Bucking Horse sale.

The liquor store does good, as most can't afford to go out, so they sit at home and drink. I don't mind going out and having fun, but I would never allow alcohol in the house.

The liquor, the gambling, the meth and these opiates people claim to need is a HUGE problem.

I worked for a company there for about 8 months. Never took a day off, yet all the other employee's always had an excuse to get out of work. I'm used to working 84 hours a week, and most can't make 40 hours without having to twist off and do whatever they do on a day off around here.

I can't say I ever found 1 positive in Miles City.
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Posted by David Schott (+9184) 7 days ago
Reply to Scotterdog (#370727)
"Scotterdog": "Cubby-Who said I live IN Miles City??"

If I look up the IP address where you posted this message from is it going to say you posted the message from Miles City?
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Posted by Walt Meredith (+163) 7 days ago
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Scooterdog, you said,

"With kids shooting up prescription drugs, the Hep C. rate is around 70%"


Then you told cubby,

"2nd, the HEP C rates come from the DOC, sorry if you don't like it."


DOC as in the Department of Corrections? Do you have a source for your 70%statistic?

This 2015 report from the Montana DOC says the Montana State Prison has an infection rate of 21% and the Montana State Women's Prison has an infection rate of 24%.

https://cor.mt.gov/Portals/104/Resources/Reports/2015BiennialReport.pdf

I doubt the general population has a rate of Hepatitis C infection equal to the prison population let alone 3 times greater then the prison population. That doesn't make any sense.

I get the feeling Scooter doesn't know what he is talking about.
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Posted by Scotterdog (-108) 6 days ago
Go down to the Custer County Detention center and ask them. Copy/paste is so 90's.
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Posted by Scotterdog (-108) 6 days ago
David-You can't possible be that stupid. Well, maybe you can.
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Posted by Walt Meredith (+163) 6 days ago
There you have it Redheadguy:: Take Scooter's comments with a very large grain of salt.
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Posted by Amorette Allison (+8333) 6 days ago
You know, if you hang out with drug addicts, everyone is a drug addict. If you hang around with cultured people with an education, who are constantly trying and achieving, you will think every is an intelligent high achiever.

Yes, there are some bitter petty criminals in Miles City. They want to blame something for their failures and blaming the entire community works for them.

For the rest of us, seriously, I lived in Bozeman for 20 years and moved back here because it a great place to have friends, to be active in all sorts of organizations, and raise kids (or help raise my brother's kids.)

Welcome to Miles City.
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Posted by Scotterdog (-108) 6 days ago
Amorette Allison-Where do you find all these alleged "educated" people? The Country Club? The 519? The corrupt court house?

When the average wage of a community is much less than 20/hr, I would not brag about "education".

Another thing I notice about people in MC-If you mention that perhaps a person should move and get a real job, they get all bent out of shape, saying it can't get any better than MC. This is the mentality of most in the community, while they go to the food bank to get their food. ITs as if they try to convince you there is no where outside their little bubble that could be better. That may be true for some, the degenerates they are, but if it were so great, there would be people moving there in droves. One could argue the population does increase by child birth, but they leave out 90% come from single "moms" unmarried, uneducated, and under the age of 30. Guess who pays for these kids?

I did meet some really good people, but like me, they were only temporary in MC. They all move on knowing there is NO future in MC.

Again, the biggest event is Bucking Horse, which is just another excuse for the community to drink and drug it up. Says a lot about the community right there.
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Posted by David Schott (+9184) 5 days ago
Ha ha, "Walt", scooterdog. That is funny. From the sounds of it, someone could stand to have their anal glands expressed.



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Posted by Wendy Wilson (+6057) 5 days ago
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There are plenty of educated people in Miles City. There are also plenty of intelligent, interesting people, regardless of education level. I have lately seen a real pride in Miles City. There are new locally owned businesses, community theatre, lots of social and service organizations, a museum and art center, and a community college. If you have trouble with alcohol, don't go into the bars. I recently attended the Robert Burns celebration and, although alcohol was served, I saw no cases of public drunkenness. Yes, the Bucking Horse Sale is a bit of a bacchanal but no one is required to attend and most of the attendees are not from Miles City.
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Posted by HUBBZ (+49) 5 days ago
I have lived in Miles City since 1986 with a few years spent in other places. I left Miles City to try new things and see what else was out there. I came back here because it was always home and is much safer than most of the places I have been. Not once have I seen crystal meth, not even sure what it looks like. Do we have a drug problem here, SURE!! Go one place where there isn't. If you stay away from the environment, it shouldn't be an issue. I know a lot of people from this community and not one of them has Hep C, that stat might be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard in my life. For the person that started this post, good luck to you and safe travels. I am sure you will find our community to be quite pleasant.
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Posted by Sunny (+366) 4 days ago
Miles City is a wonderful place to live. This is our seventh home in six cities and we have been here over for more than four decades! No, it is not perfect, but it is what you make it. If you are looking for good things, you will find them, and you will enjoy the roses in your garden. If your vision is filtered through a negative attitude, you will see only the ugly and undesirable, and your roses will only present you with their thorns. Not that are not blooming, but you cannot see them with your clouded vision. What you will find here is really up to you. Judging by your previous posts, Red-headed Guy, you will enjoy a beautiful garden. Welcome!
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Posted by Scotterdog (-108) 4 days ago
David Schott-You truly are a shining example of ignorant. You can't read, therefor you cannot even get my name right. How many prescription pills are you taking?
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Posted by Scotterdog (-108) 4 days ago
You got to love the MC attitude, a contradiction at every turn. Quoting one of the most intelligent persons in MC. Kind of like all the backstabbing that goes on there.

"Not once have I seen crystal meth, not even sure what it looks like. Do we have a drug problem here, SURE!!"

Jesus H. Christ, stop while you are behind people.
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Posted by David Schott (+9184) 4 days ago
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Hey dumbass, I wasn't the one who misspelled your name.
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Posted by cubby (+1873) 4 days ago
Sounds like old Scooter was a bad dealer here and got ran off. With all the FACTS that he has.
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Posted by David Schott (+9184) 4 days ago
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He does seem to have some insight into the Custer County Detention Center.
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Posted by Redheadguy (+30) 4 days ago
UPDATE!!!! So, I appreciate everyone's input. (For the most part lol.) I visited yesterday a few things I noticed. Please remember these are my own personal observations.

1. The city is very small, I wasn't overly shocked by that, but still noted.
2. Some people on here said the city was dirty, didn't look dirty at all to me.
3 Potholes exist, I definitely hit a few, but nothing horrendous or anything.
4 Drugs, I saw no drugs at all. I saw one sketchy looking person in an apartment complex, but nothing like what was described on here.
5. The people seem somewhat reserved and definitely keep to themselves, I tried socializing and they don't too much. Might just be shy or nervous around new people, but it was a little different to me.

So, all in all a good visit. I'm just trying to decide what I want to do next. I have both pluses and negatives as to why the move would be good. So, I just need to quit being indecisive and figure it out.

I honestly think the biggest thing is being away from the people I know.
I appreciate everyone's input and time. I also apologize for the little spat that got started on here, even though I technically didn't start it.
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Posted by Starburst (+23) 4 days ago
I am glad to hear your visit went well. I have been following your post but have kept to myself until now. Thanks for the update! There are actually a lot of interesting activities to do in this area. I am younger with a young family and this has been a wonderful town to raise children in. There are beautiful parks, a pool, rivers, many recreation areas, good fishing and camping too! The Bucking Horse Sale is wonderful for many reasons that do not include drinking, for instance, there is a parade, an artist's quickdraw in the park, Bronc riding and horse races at the fairgrounds and a great excuse for your friends to come visit for a weekend! There is also a music festival happening the beginning of April (I may be wrong on the timing but it's coming up). There are many excellent musicians that are brought in to play out at the Range Riders, a large 4th of July celebration, the county fair, Christmas Stroll and I am certain to be missing many of the fun opportunities that are available here. The town is not very big but it has a big heart. Local coffee shops are very friendly and serve delicious coffee and pastries, there are many dining options and some nice bars and a brewery too if that is something you would like. Good luck with your decision and your move!
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Posted by Earl Bennett (+218) 4 days ago
The trolls make things interesting on here

That being said with the exception of living in Missoula a few yrs while in school. I was born here & lived here all my life. It will probably end here as well. Yea I love it...
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