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 might be a ban for the 4th, hotshot92, 6/27/2012 11:32:12 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4thDonator Richard Bonine, Jr., 6/28/2012 6:57:13 AM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4thDonator Karen L. Morris, 6/28/2012 8:14:14 AM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, hotshot92, 6/28/2012 10:21:24 AM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, Monica LN, 6/28/2012 10:24:16 AM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, hotshot92, 6/28/2012 10:27:55 AM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, Forsyth Mike, 6/28/2012 11:22:40 AM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, Dan Mowry, 6/28/2012 12:21:41 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, Kacey, 6/28/2012 3:19:50 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, BD, 6/28/2012 3:30:25 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, hotshot92, 6/28/2012 3:35:15 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, SeptyTwo, 6/28/2012 4:30:45 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, neonfreedom, 6/28/2012 4:34:30 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4thDonator Bridgier, 6/28/2012 4:46:22 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, SeptyTwo, 6/28/2012 5:00:07 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, matthhew moeller, 6/28/2012 5:19:08 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, montanajane, 6/28/2012 5:28:18 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, neonfreedom, 6/28/2012 5:33:02 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, neonfreedom, 6/28/2012 5:34:35 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, Buck Showalter, 6/28/2012 5:58:56 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, Dan Mowry, 6/28/2012 7:22:46 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, Buck Showalter, 6/28/2012 7:44:04 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, Leann, 6/28/2012 7:53:27 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4thDonator Richard Bonine, Jr., 6/28/2012 8:24:51 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, SeptyTwo, 6/28/2012 9:22:44 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4thDonator Bridgier, 6/28/2012 9:54:29 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, neonfreedom, 6/28/2012 9:59:02 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, neonfreedom, 6/28/2012 11:50:01 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, Levi Forman, 6/29/2012 10:11:03 AM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, neonfreedom, 6/29/2012 11:54:24 AM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, Buck Showalter, 6/29/2012 12:05:02 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, ocne, 6/29/2012 12:39:30 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, Dan Mowry, 6/29/2012 12:39:45 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, Buck Showalter, 6/29/2012 4:15:19 PM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, Its Me, 7/1/2012 2:28:04 AM
 RE: might be a ban for the 4th, Buck Showalter, 7/1/2012 8:26:23 AM
 Subject: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: hotshot92  Posted: Wed Jun 27 11:32:12 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT
posted on facebook at 11:24 pm on june 27th 2012.Q2 Wednesday 10 p.m. Top News Stories: Further evacuations Wednesday night, as winds pick up and the skies fill with more smoke over the wild fire burning south of Roundup.
Air-tankers finally join the fire fight against the Dahl fire from above.
New information on the Ash Creek Fire burning near Ashland.
And amid all the flames scorching the state, Yellowstone County may soon see a county-wide burn ban, including a fireworks ban over the 4th.


http://www.ktvq.com/videos/q2-wedne...lle-slade-6-27-2012/
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Donator Richard Bonine, Jr.  Posted: Thu Jun 28 6:57:13 AM MDT 2012 From: - WY
Fireworks need to be banned immediately both in Miles City and in all of southeastern MT. There simply are not enough resources available right now to extinguish another fire. The Miles City City council was very irresponsible for waiting until 2-Jul to decide what they will do. Ban them NOW!
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Donator Karen L. Morris  Posted: Thu Jun 28 8:14:14 AM MDT 2012 From: - MT
If my understanding is correct, the fireworks ARE currently banned. The meeting on the 2nd is to ALLOW them. I agree that we don't have adequate resources to battle a blaze. I find myself wondering if the City is opening itself up to liability if they make them legal when they currently are not and a fire results. Fireworks are being banned all over in the multi-state region. To me, it's a "no brainer" decision. The fire risk is too high.
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: hotshot92  Posted: Thu Jun 28 10:21:24 AM MDT 2012 From: - MT
I agree with the both of u...especially with all the dumb people that dont know how to or dont use them correctly...im just saying saying in the sense it would suck because its my sons first real 4th...
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Monica LN  Posted: Thu Jun 28 10:24:16 AM MDT 2012 From: - MT
I heard that they've already done a city wide ban of fireworks in Billings. I hope people here have the same sense of mind.
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: hotshot92  Posted: Thu Jun 28 10:27:55 AM MDT 2012 From: - MT
IMO good again...there are always better things to do then to play with fire...there will be more years
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Forsyth Mike  Posted: Thu Jun 28 11:22:40 AM MDT 2012 From: - MT
Billings has had a citywide fireworks ban in place for years. You can't even POSSESS fireworks legally in the city limits.

I agree it's a bad year for fireworks but there is also an enforcement problem. The city of Billings looks pretty much like a war zone on the 4th, ban or no ban.

I always thought it was better to use fireworks in town, where you have green grass and plenty of water hoses handy. Sending people out into "the county" is just asking for trouble.

The real key, of course, is parental supervision. Most disastrous fireworks-related fires are caused by kids.

[This message has been edited by Forsyth Mike (6/28/2012)]
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Dan Mowry  Posted: Thu Jun 28 12:21:41 PM MDT 2012 From: - IA
Most disastrous fireworks-related fires are caused by kids.



/snippet/ In 2010, U.S. hospital emergency rooms treated an estimated 8,600 people for fireworks-related injuries. 73 percent of these injuries occurred between June 18 - July 18. Of these:

65 percent were to males and 35 percent were to females.
Children under 15 years old accounted for 40 percent of the estimated injuries.
Children and young adults under 20 years old had 53 percent of the estimated injuries. /snippet/

63 percent of grass and range fires were found to be caused by males 20-29 years old. /snippet/

...if memory serves those were largely caused by two guys named Todd and Doug in the BLM parking lot within 11.3 seconds of opening a package of bottle rockets. big grin
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Kacey  Posted: Thu Jun 28 3:19:50 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT
Fireworks were once a sign of celebration for our nation's freedom. I don't think burning our country down is a good way to celebrate anymore.

They have now gone to stage 2 restrictions in Yellowstone County and I think everyone should follow suit:

BILLINGS- Two days after Yellowstone County moved into stage 1 fire restrictions, county commissioners are set to pass additional restrictions Thursday afternoon.

According to Yellowstone County Disaster and Emergency Services, a meeting is scheduled this afternoon at the Yellowstone County Courthouse which will move the county in to stage 2 restrictions.

Stage 2 restrictions continue the ban on open flames and smoking outdoors originally set by the stage 1 fire restrictions.

However, stage 2 restrictions expand the ban to residents living within city or town limits.

Additionally, stage 2 restrictions disallow the use of internal combustion engines, welding or other torches with an open flame, explosives (which will likely include fireworks), and driving motorized vehicles off road and designated trails between the hours of 1p.m. and 1a.m. on a daily basis.
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: BD  Posted: Thu Jun 28 3:30:25 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT
I think that the fire restrictions is on the Custer County, not Miles City right now. Just call Fire Department. That is what I was told.

[This message has been edited by BD (6/28/2012)]
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: hotshot92  Posted: Thu Jun 28 3:35:15 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT
"""I don't think burning our country down is a good way to celebrate anymore."""


I 2nd this....but at the same time u said that it was a way to celebrate our freedom...there will be more years to come to celebrate(i hope)...i dont think its goin to kill any one to pass up a couple years of stupidity,flames,possible hospital visits/dangerous accidents.,and SOME fun to save our counry from being nothing but ash...
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: SeptyTwo  Posted: Thu Jun 28 4:30:45 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT
"""I don't think burning our country down is a good way to celebrate anymore."""


um... it's not yet the 4th... how are we burning down our country celebrating? are these major fires that are burning now.. were they caused by fireworks?

We have had hot summers, hot weeks of summer, hot days of summer before... yet every year we always were able to light off on the fourth, in designated areas of course.. will we still be able to do that?

not sure what the official word is concerning MILES CITY... all I am hearing is "ban this" Ban that" BANNED!!!... but that's in other areas...

which way is it? they ARE banned in MC? or they are NOT banned in MC? which the meeting on the 2nd decides...

For the ignorant and uninformed, like me, let's be a little clearer on what gets posted here... none of this "from what I heard..."

So, any definite word?

(grammar sux. i know.. )
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: neonfreedom  Posted: Thu Jun 28 4:34:30 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT
There is one here in mt that was caused by a couple kids playing with a lighter(not the house fire in billings) and the one in helena was an "accident" but could have criminal charges..and dont quote me but i think there is another one here in mt that was cuased by fireworks...
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Donator Bridgier  Posted: Thu Jun 28 4:46:22 PM MDT 2012 From: - ID
I'm pretty sure anybody lighting fireworks for the 4th should be subject to summary execution.
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: SeptyTwo  Posted: Thu Jun 28 5:00:07 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT
can I pick my own blindfold? and the pole I wish to be tied to?
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: matthhew moeller  Posted: Thu Jun 28 5:19:08 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT
If Miles City is planning a ban on fireworks then why are they allowing the fireworks stands to be open it seems a little stupid. What happends to all those people who have already purchased fireworks is the city going to issue refunds because we know that the stands will not. Just a thought
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: montanajane  Posted: Thu Jun 28 5:28:18 PM MDT 2012 From: - SD
I am not certain but maybe they can only sell fireworks for a certain length of time. People could save their fireworks and set them off over labor day or something. You can't blame the sellers if people are ignorant and start fires with fireworks.
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: neonfreedom  Posted: Thu Jun 28 5:33:02 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT
I went to the firework stand today and she said that all the regulated shows are still able to go on((like the show they do at riverside park,etc)...but any thing out side of miles city is not permitted..she said that she talked to the fire marshal but they are having a meeting (as said in previous posts)to decide weather everyone will or will not be a ban all over including with in city limits...and i dont think u would be able to get a refund...that would take a lot of work and time to get the exact amount...the fire work stands dont keep records of how much u bought or when u bought it...i think you will just be S.O.L if u bought fireworks already if they do go through with the ban..
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: neonfreedom  Posted: Thu Jun 28 5:34:35 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT
Yes montanajane the sellers are NOT to blame...is it the people that buy and set them off with wrongful manner/just being ignorant..but there are also accidental mistakes(still no excuse)but..

[This message has been edited by neonfreedom (6/28/2012)]
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Buck Showalter  Posted: Thu Jun 28 5:58:56 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT
Nothing says "patriotism" like Chinese fireworks.
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Dan Mowry  Posted: Thu Jun 28 7:22:46 PM MDT 2012 From: - IA
can I pick my own blindfold? and the pole I wish to be tied to?


Well, if you're going to do it you may as well go big - a 7 foot long, 22 pound bottle rocket.
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Buck Showalter  Posted: Thu Jun 28 7:44:04 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT
Make it interesting and cut off a bunch of the stick.
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Leann  Posted: Thu Jun 28 7:53:27 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT
I think the city should let the towns people show that we can be responsibale in terms of shotting them of in ones own yard. At least most of us have a garden hose hooked up to our house so we can put out any fire that may start.
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Donator Richard Bonine, Jr.  Posted: Thu Jun 28 8:24:51 PM MDT 2012 From: - WY
The US would be a safer place if instead of buying your own fireworks, you contributed to a 4-July fireworks show that was done by professionals.

IMO, the general public shouldn't be allowed to purchase fireworks.
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: SeptyTwo  Posted: Thu Jun 28 9:22:44 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT

Well, if you're going to do it you may as well go big - a 7 foot long, 22 pound bottle rocket


THEY MAKE THOSE!!!!???

ahem... where can I get one? I wish to use common sense and responsibly FIRE THAT SUCKER OFF!!
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Donator Bridgier  Posted: Thu Jun 28 9:54:29 PM MDT 2012 From: - OR
Here in Idaho, you can BUY fireworks that are illegal to use, as long as you sign a waiver saying that you're going to detonate them out of state.
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: neonfreedom  Posted: Thu Jun 28 9:59:02 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT
^^^^ What that is stupid...do u really think people are goin to DONATE then to people outta state...really come on now....
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: neonfreedom  Posted: Thu Jun 28 11:50:01 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT
Q2 News---POSTED AT 11PM,JUNE 28TH 2012
Q2 Thursday 10 p.m. fire updates and top news stories: A night of emotion as Roundup residents forced from their homes, finally get a tally on the damage left behind.
Flames take more structures, as the Ash Creek fire rages on.
Yellowstone County clamps down on fire restrictions and fireworks are banned this forth of July.
And displaced horses, now have a place to go amid all the fire destruction.
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Levi Forman  Posted: Fri Jun 29 10:11:03 AM MDT 2012 From: - CA
What better way to celebrate our freedom than by banning fun!
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: neonfreedom  Posted: Fri Jun 29 11:54:24 AM MDT 2012 From: - MT
so how many fires are there now due to the lighting last night...does ny one know?
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Buck Showalter  Posted: Fri Jun 29 12:05:02 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT
They should probably ban lightening.

Come visit the rez, we've got fireworks available 365. God bless the CS&KN!
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: ocne  Posted: Fri Jun 29 12:39:30 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT
Heard on the radio this morning that the Mayor and City of Broadus has banned the use of AND sale of fireworks there.

Just FYI--this is happening around the area, so folks shouldn't necessarily be surprised if it were to happen here.
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Dan Mowry  Posted: Fri Jun 29 12:39:45 PM MDT 2012 From: - IA
THEY MAKE THOSE!!!!???

ahem... where can I get one? I wish to use common sense and responsibly FIRE THAT SUCKER OFF!!



It could be your own Viking funeral with a twist. Have your buddies strap you to this puppy, say some kind words, drink a beer, and light you off.

Ashes to ashes, Yankee Doodle.

 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Buck Showalter  Posted: Fri Jun 29 4:15:19 PM MDT 2012 From: - MT
Yes!

Now just cut off about four feet off the stick pole.
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Its Me  Posted: Sun Jul 1 2:28:04 AM MDT 2012 From: - MT
Do they sell them in packs? Lets fire a dozen at a time, with shortened sticks poles of course...
 Subject: RE: might be a ban for the 4th
Author: Buck Showalter  Posted: Sun Jul 1 8:26:23 AM MDT 2012 From: - MT
For the sake of fire safety, it's best if we light those in the house.
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