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 Is Obama A Socialist?,  Kelly, 1/10/2012 8:44:05 AM
  RE: Is Obama A Socialist?, Gunnar Emilsson, 1/10/2012 9:10:37 AM
RE: Is Obama A Socialist?, Amorette F. Allison, 1/10/2012 10:27:33 AM
RE: Is Obama A Socialist?, Kelly, 1/10/2012 8:09:02 PM
RE: Is Obama A Socialist?, Levi Forman, 1/10/2012 9:09:09 PM
RE: Is Obama A Socialist?, Gunnar Emilsson, 1/10/2012 9:57:42 PM
RE: Is Obama A Socialist?, Harry Calahan*, 1/13/2012 3:46:12 PM
RE: Is Obama A Socialist?, howdy, 1/26/2012 9:12:12 AM
RE: Is Obama A Socialist?, Gunnar Emilsson, 1/26/2012 10:34:56 AM
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Found this interesting...
Socialist Party USA Responds To Rick Perry's Obama Socialist Claim
The Socialist Party USA is skeptical of Rick Perry's claim Sunday that President Obama is a socialist.
"The notion that Barack Obama is a socialist ranks among the greatest fairy tales in American society -- right up there with the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and the idea that if you work hard enough your children will live a better life than you," Socialist Party spokesperson Lynn Lomibao said in an email. "Socialists know what Obama is: another corporate funded politician placed in the White House to protect the wealth and status of the 1%."
During a Sunday morning debate, Perry said, "I make a very proud statement and a fact that we have a president that's a socialist." Perry said states could do a better job than the federal government in delivering education, health care, and environmental regulations.
The Socialist Party, which The New York Times reported last year has 1,000 members, doesn't see much socialism coming from the Obama administration.
"When Americans needed a solution to mass unemployment, Obama gave away billions in cash to bail out the banks," Lomibao continued. "When Americans needed a single-payer healthcare system, Obama promoted a pro-health insurance healthcare 'reform' package that forced millions into junk healthcare plans subsidized by public funds. And when American workers asked for the right to join a union without employer harassment through the Employee Free Choice Act, Obama showed who he really answers to by betraying the promises he made to working people during his campaign."
From http://huff.to/xuQRn1 |
The Socialist Party is 100% correct.
Rick Perry is an idiot.
The drooling idiots who parrot their favorite talk show hosts and scream, "Obamacare is socialism!" are even dumber than Rick Perry.
The reality is, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is a tremendous gift to the healthcare insurance corporations. As the Socialist Party so adeptly notes. |
| The "affordable health care act" is Bob Dole's old plan. Remember him? Pruney old Republican? There is NOTHING socialist about it. |
Korky,
What say ye? |
There's a great article on Slate.com by my man Glen Greenwald regarding Obama and Ron Paul. IMO no one that claims to be a liberal/progressive should vote for Barak Obama without reading this post and considering what he has to say here:
Progressives and the Ron Paul fallacies
An excerpt since I know most people won't click the link, but you really should read the whole thing:
The fallacy in this reasoning is glaring. The candidate supported by progressives — President Obama — himself holds heinous views on a slew of critical issues and himself has done heinous things with the power he has been vested. He has slaughtered civilians — Muslim children by the dozens — not once or twice, but continuously in numerous nations with drones, cluster bombs and other forms of attack. He has sought to overturn a global ban on cluster bombs. He has institutionalized the power of Presidents — in secret and with no checks — to target American citizens for assassination-by-CIA, far from any battlefield. He has waged an unprecedented war against whistleblowers, the protection of which was once a liberal shibboleth. He rendered permanently irrelevant the War Powers Resolution, a crown jewel in the list of post-Vietnam liberal accomplishments, and thus enshrined the power of Presidents to wage war even in the face of a Congressional vote against it. His obsession with secrecy is so extreme that it has become darkly laughable in its manifestations, and he even worked to amend the Freedom of Information Act (another crown jewel of liberal legislative successes) when compliance became inconvenient.
He has entrenched for a generation the once-reviled, once-radical Bush/Cheney Terrorism powers of indefinite detention, military commissions, and the state secret privilege as a weapon to immunize political leaders from the rule of law. He has shielded Bush era criminals from every last form of accountability. He has vigorously prosecuted the cruel and supremely racist War on Drugs, including those parts he vowed during the campaign to relinquish — a war which devastates minority communities and encages and converts into felons huge numbers of minority youth for no good reason. He has empowered thieving bankers through the Wall Street bailout, Fed secrecy, efforts to shield mortgage defrauders from prosecution, and the appointment of an endless roster of former Goldman, Sachs executives and lobbyists. He’s brought the nation to a full-on Cold War and a covert hot war with Iran, on the brink of far greater hostilities. He has made the U.S. as subservient as ever to the destructive agenda of the right-wing Israeli government. His support for some of the Arab world’s most repressive regimes is as strong as ever.
Most of all, America’s National Security State, its Surveillance State, and its posture of endless war is more robust than ever before. The nation suffers from what National Journal‘s Michael Hirsh just christened “Obama’s Romance with the CIA.” He has created what The Washington Post just dubbed “a vast drone/killing operation,” all behind an impenetrable wall of secrecy and without a shred of oversight. Obama’s steadfast devotion to what Dana Priest and William Arkin called “Top Secret America” has severe domestic repercussions as well, building up vast debt and deficits in the name of militarism that create the pretext for the “austerity” measures which the Washington class (including Obama) is plotting to impose on America’s middle and lower classes.
The simple fact is that progressives are supporting a candidate for President who has done all of that — things liberalism has long held to be pernicious. I know it’s annoying and miserable to hear. Progressives like to think of themselves as the faction that stands for peace, opposes wars, believes in due process and civil liberties, distrusts the military-industrial complex, supports candidates who are devoted to individual rights, transparency and economic equality. All of these facts — like the history laid out by Stoller in that essay — negate that desired self-perception. These facts demonstrate that the leader progressives have empowered and will empower again has worked in direct opposition to those values and engaged in conduct that is nothing short of horrific. So there is an eagerness to avoid hearing about them, to pretend they don’t exist. And there’s a corresponding hostility toward those who point them out, who insist that they not be ignored.
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Yawn...that is a real yawner, Levi.
Yawn. |
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