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 Miles City vowels, Jim Birkholz, 3/27/2011 3:41:28 AM
 RE: Miles City vowels, Dan Mowry, 3/27/2011 8:11:48 AM
 RE: Miles City vowels, Levi Forman, 3/27/2011 8:18:26 AM
 RE: Miles City vowelsDonator Jeri Dalbec, 3/27/2011 8:57:32 AM
 RE: Miles City vowels, Buck Showalter, 3/27/2011 9:16:19 AM
 RE: Miles City vowelsDonator Kelly, 3/27/2011 10:03:18 AM
 RE: Miles City vowelsDonator Gunnar Emilsson, 3/27/2011 10:07:23 AM
 RE: Miles City vowels, Elizabeth Emilsson, 3/27/2011 11:51:23 AM
 RE: Miles City vowels, Wendy Wilson, 3/27/2011 12:36:42 PM
 RE: Miles City vowels, Levi Forman, 3/27/2011 1:19:42 PM
 RE: Miles City vowels, Dan Mowry, 3/27/2011 4:18:08 PM
 RE: Miles City vowels, M T Zook, 3/27/2011 4:31:57 PM
 RE: Miles City vowels, Buck Showalter, 3/27/2011 5:00:39 PM
 RE: Miles City vowels, Mike Wallick, 3/27/2011 5:52:45 PM
 RE: Miles City vowels, Wayne White, 3/27/2011 8:43:32 PM
 RE: Miles City vowels, Wendy Wilson, 3/28/2011 9:00:59 AM
 RE: Miles City vowels, howdy, 3/28/2011 10:24:18 AM
 RE: Miles City vowelsDonator Amorette Allison, 3/28/2011 12:18:21 PM
 RE: Miles City vowels, howdy, 3/28/2011 12:36:41 PM
 RE: Miles City vowels, Wendy Wilson, 3/28/2011 1:28:46 PM
 RE: Miles City vowels, worldmom, 4/20/2011 4:32:42 PM
 RE: Miles City vowels, j2r, 4/20/2011 8:14:27 PM
 RE: Miles City vowels, lexy, 4/21/2011 9:52:49 AM
 RE: Miles City vowels, DEAN, 4/22/2011 8:41:38 AM
 RE: Miles City vowelsDonator Amorette Allison, 4/22/2011 10:16:42 AM
 RE: Miles City vowels, Wayne White, 4/22/2011 3:39:40 PM
 RE: Miles City vowels, Monica LN, 4/22/2011 4:20:46 PM
 Subject: Miles City vowels
Author: Jim Birkholz  Posted: Sun Mar 27 3:41:28 AM MDT 2011 From: - TX
Any informed comments about why we are different from the rest of MT?
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 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Dan Mowry  Posted: Sun Mar 27 8:11:48 AM MDT 2011 From: - IA
Even with the legend I can't figure out what breakdown Miles City is being given there?
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Levi Forman  Posted: Sun Mar 27 8:18:26 AM MDT 2011 From:
I have to agree on the incomprehensibility of that graphic. It does seem odd that they seem to think that people in MC talk like they are from the midwest but are completely surrounded by people that talk differently.
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Donator Jeri Dalbec  Posted: Sun Mar 27 8:57:32 AM MDT 2011 From: - MT
That is fantastic...That it explains it! What a find. Hope I read it right. I grew up in Cut Bank and Billings....which appears to be the reason that "Had does not rhyme with Bad". I definitely think that Miles City is near a dialect boundary, having many Norwegian relatives in North Dakota. Wonder if Miles City is not considered just cosmopolitan with fluctuating vowels????
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Buck Showalter  Posted: Sun Mar 27 9:16:19 AM MDT 2011 From: - MT
It's weird, but it may not be inaccurate. I was living in Seattle and out of nowhere a guy said to me, "You must be from Miles City." I'd never met the guy and the comment came from way out in left field. I asked him how he knew and he said he could just tell, it was bizarre and honestly a little disturbing.
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Donator Kelly  Posted: Sun Mar 27 10:03:18 AM MDT 2011 From: - MT
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Donator Gunnar Emilsson  Posted: Sun Mar 27 10:07:23 AM MDT 2011 From:
The Miles City accent is best explained by the vast number of North Dakota expatriates living there, plus the Norwegians. It is mainly the Russian-German dialect that gives North Dakotas their unique accent. So the Prussian-Norwegian background gives the unique Miles City accent.

What is missing in the graphic is the most pronounced accent in Montana, that of the Butte-Anaconda region, or, as the locals there say it, "Anda-conda".
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Elizabeth Emilsson  Posted: Sun Mar 27 11:51:23 AM MDT 2011 From: - MT
The unique vowel sounds we have are matched by countless North Dakototan expressions that have been integrated into our language, like "oh for dumb", and "So here's the deal.", and" "It's no Big Deal.". The etiology of these expressions can be found in a book by Jim Anderson titled, "How to Speak Minesotian". The dialog in the movie "Fargo" captures these expressions perfectly.
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Wendy Wilson  Posted: Sun Mar 27 12:36:42 PM MDT 2011 From: - UT
I grew up with a Norwegian Minnesotan/South Dakotan and a Bostonian who when in his cups would drop all his Rs. "Go pahk the cah around the cahnah. Here's a qwauhtah." My mom, however, doesn't have a pronounced accent and was an English major so perhaps I don't have much of an accent. Frankly I don't know.
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Levi Forman  Posted: Sun Mar 27 1:19:42 PM MDT 2011 From:
I was once accused of being from North Dakota by a woman in Kansas City who had only heard me say about 3 sentences so I guess I must have some sort of accent. This was after I had been living in the southwest and California for 10 years. Maybe Knowlton is outside that little circle around Miles City and I'm into the Minnesota/North Dakota area. No one in California ever mentioned my accent though, and I never noticed any accent on the Californians either but I don't imagine that I'm keyed in on that especially. I do very clearly notice an accent on the deer hunters that come over from Minnesota though.

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 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Dan Mowry  Posted: Sun Mar 27 4:18:08 PM MDT 2011 From: - IA
So, how, or what, are the outstanding things Miles Citians say that are so unique?

I've heard "No big deal" in California, Oregon, and Iowa. It's heard on television and films. I doubt the industry is owned by North Dakotans. I've never heard "Oh, for dumb" in my life.

What's the Miles City give-away?
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: M T Zook  Posted: Sun Mar 27 4:31:57 PM MDT 2011 From:
I was accused of having a Pennsylvania accent in Texas by a guy from Louisiana.
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Buck Showalter  Posted: Sun Mar 27 5:00:39 PM MDT 2011 From: - MT
Saying "North Dakota" always makes me feel like I'm exposing myself.
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Mike Wallick  Posted: Sun Mar 27 5:52:45 PM MDT 2011 From: - MN
When I went to Brown Institute for radio broadcasting in 1978 the word that caused the most concern amongst my peers was how we in Montana pronounce "interest" or "interesting".
We use 3 syllables instead of 2, which many others use, so it would be said as this: "in-trest" instead of "in-ter-est". Both are acceptable according to Webster (at least they were when the teacher checked in 1978).

Oh and btw, the most abused letter of the alphabet? "w" It shouldn't be pronounced "dub-ya" but should also be three syllables "double u".

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 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Wayne White  Posted: Sun Mar 27 8:43:32 PM MDT 2011 From: - CO
Montana is the only state that does not have accents, all the other states do.
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Wendy Wilson  Posted: Mon Mar 28 9:00:59 AM MDT 2011 From: - UT
Har, har. You've never hung out by the redneck door at Curster High School.
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: howdy  Posted: Mon Mar 28 10:24:18 AM MDT 2011 From: - MT
uff-da... big grin
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Donator Amorette Allison  Posted: Mon Mar 28 12:18:21 PM MDT 2011 From: - MT
I was in a German class at college when the teacher was discussing accents. He said I sounded like a native speaker with a Danish accent except nothing I said made sense. That led us to regional U.S. accents. A girl from Chicago said, in her very nasal accent, "I noticed when I came to Montena that everyone had eccents." We fell out of our chairs laughing.

Ever notice that distinct Texas twang that goes along with being from Broadus?
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: howdy  Posted: Mon Mar 28 12:36:41 PM MDT 2011 From: - MT
being from North Carolina, I think everyone I meet outside the south has an accent LOL...
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Wendy Wilson  Posted: Mon Mar 28 1:28:46 PM MDT 2011 From: - UT
There is a very distinct Utah accent which is very annoying. They often replace the long a sound in "sale" with the short e sound as in "sell." It drives me nuts. People also pronounce the word "tour" to rhyme with "bore". Aggghh!
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: worldmom  Posted: Wed Apr 20 4:32:42 PM MDT 2011 From: - MT
I'm late to this party, but I had to chime in.

I have lived (Maryland, Texas, California, Nevada, Wyoming, Utah, Minnesota) and traveled all over the country, and I think Montanans sound most like Minnesotans. The long, rounded /o/ such as in "boat" is very Minnesota-esque, as is the long /a/ sounds in "ag" words such as "flag, bag, wagon," etc. I say "bag" with the same short /a/ sound as in "cat," but most folks around here say "bayg."

Wendy - I'm with you on the annoying Utah accent. I think you ought tuh drive over tuh American Fark to look at the moun'uhns and go tuh some garage sells. Then go getcher trash kicked at Zumba, cuz ohmyheck, it's so much fun! Don't fergitcher Bump-it! wink
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: j2r  Posted: Wed Apr 20 8:14:27 PM MDT 2011 From: - MT
While you're in Utah, don't forget to pick yerself up a mill-dill so you can eat 'neat 'neat!!
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: lexy  Posted: Thu Apr 21 9:52:49 AM MDT 2011 From: - MT
I moved here from California years ago and it still irritates me the way people around here say "bag". It is not a long "a" sound people.
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: DEAN  Posted: Fri Apr 22 8:41:38 AM MDT 2011 From: - UT
WORLDMOM you nailed it!!! even the news anchors talk that way.I'm not sure English was required in Utah,but church was.
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Donator Amorette Allison  Posted: Fri Apr 22 10:16:42 AM MDT 2011 From: - MT
Lexy, there is no standard pronunciation of anything. Everything is regional and dialectal. "American Standard English" was developed at the University of Missouri and, to my ear, sounds distinctly southern.

EVERYONE has an accent. No one is right or wrong except those guys on the BBC.
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Wayne White  Posted: Fri Apr 22 3:39:40 PM MDT 2011 From: - CO
Ya'll sound just fine to me, A.
 Subject: RE: Miles City vowels
Author: Monica LN  Posted: Fri Apr 22 4:20:46 PM MDT 2011 From: - NE
I'm with WORLDMOM on this too! I'm from MN and I have noticed that folks in Miles City speak the same way that I do though I was told by a gal once that I had an accent when she sounded just like me...
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